TS still dun get it, Mandarin wasn't created by the Manchus!!! Manchus have their own dialects. For instance, Manchus claim that they are from the Aisin Goro clan, aisin goro is their own dialect, and when translated to mandarin, Aisin= jin = gold, goro= clan.

i heard that 'chinese' hate manchu people and say they are not 'chinese'. why? what make 'chinese' chinese? they have the same color skin, slanted eyes, ching chong language oso.