One question, What is your intention to have the nesting plank 90degree corners be cover?

I'm using Stainless Steel Sheet to cover and it measure 200mm each side. The 90 degree still occur and it without any groove. The reason is simple, i'm forcing the birds to made all 180degree nests.

and disadvantage of using aluminium is after a period of time white powder will be form on the surface of the sheet.

Do agree with u WW.
That why I made a remark ' What is your intension to have the corner board"
a) to prevent to have corner nests - after the plank full of nests.
b) instead of 90deg now become 135degree.

materials of corner board
a) pvc material
b) wood
c) SSS

[quote=West Wing,Jul 13 2010, 12:28 PM]
Dear friend,

The most successful method of getting rid of OWL that they used it here which I never will approved and will not discuss and you know what, so please will someone pls. give him a better alternative way of getting rid of the OWL..................
Also, you may have notice that the forum did have mentioned some way of solving OWL problems....pls. read past postings........by our Sifus here.


pls understand and distinguish the behavior of the owl and the difference between.
Work it out from the onwards.

1) if given a choice i will not build at ' so call town'
2) other will build also
3) DIY will learn more n better. Think b4 any final decision
4) I just completed renovate a double storey in klang valley, 20 X 70 n total cost approximately Rm 15k n that excluded CCTV system. it a open roof type.

anyone using high pressure misting nozzle ( common used in mamak food stall ) .


using Pb pipe for cost effective.


Car Washer Pumps
Specifications :
Water Output : 750 liters / hour
Operating Pressure : 110 bars / 1600 Psi


for 25 mist head and the mist are acceptable. i'm using these and it work well, sound compare to chicken type slightly lower if using single root type.


my advice before install please water proof the 1st floor slab . entire area which we intend to put the nozzle.

from the photo provide earlier , i will say it is the right setup. i believe is the sound u play is matter.

nvr attract bird. reason - sound quality n type not correct
- no bird population there
- not at the correct time u doing the bird call

my personal view, sequence of work is the most important when doing the bh. it apply to standalone n modification to shopehouse

initially do all the wet work ( civil works and roofing, including all metal door n wiring work for lighting n cctv)

secondary wash the whole building using water jet including ceiling for ever floor.

before plank install i will normally observe the bh floor by floor for few day to see any changes need to be made or modified, including monitor the temperature n humidity .

for air ventilation i believe towards in natural flow n free flow. so my bh have very few mechanical gadget ie cctv, chicken hoop humidifier, amplifier only.

when satisfied n no modification required, only plank will be install. (cause not a single bh is the same, copy n paste will not work fro the industry)

finally all plank r measured n pre cut outside to minimise wood dust free flow.

agree with aeiou. it dun seem to be mold, foot print n dirts. all uninstall plank will be store vertical slanting towards the wall. these to prevent someone step on it and dust accumulate on it surface.

swiftcurrent. for tweeter installation , direction and flow of ways is incorrect.

normally my arrangement will start from the last to the 1st tweeter. (last tweeter meaning far behind bh.)

when u did the installation from the last towards the front section , u will get the idea and better understanding the flow of tweeter direction.

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Melaka

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Golden-Mah Bird's Nest Sdn. Bhd.
Rawang, Selangor

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Added on April 17, 2011, 11:40 am
Regretful but need to say so that many do not know the art of doing BH and they all listen to their contractors whom themselves don't know much of BH science anyway; a case of the blind leading the blind. Most of the present BHs are all so similar and typical one type....no new idea.

I went to BH hunting for a friend from KL and what I see, I don't believe and here is my earnest report of the day's hunting.
Most of the BHs has nests but none more than 30 as they are all new but not so new about 6 to 9 months and the sad story is that since they have nests, that's a potential for future growth but then, by harvesting nests so early thus damaging the future of the BHs concerned. According to one of the owners, the contractor which is his consultant told him that the birds will rebuild the nests so need not worry about harvesting.

If I am younger although I may look young due to much eating of birdnests, I really don't have the energy and time otherwise, I will buy these failed BHs and lucky me, even if half are successful and will be, I will be very rich but I am not that strong and may not see my day of Victory. So, I just have to leave them to the future generation to decide and these young Generals to do the battle and to win the war.

So, I would advice those who do not have a BH and wish to buy up a land and build one, don't buy land and waste your precious time. Why not invest in those so called failed BHs for at least you have a better start...... saying it may cause those failed BHs owners to raise their selling price which is what I am scared off cos the present selling price is already good price.....a land that they buy @ 40K few years ago and with a BH cost about Rm200K and now selling @ 500K, what more do they want, ???????

Enough TC for the Day. Good Day, my friends @ forum.

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ww i do agree.

knowing is SCIENCE n doing is ART. it is not that simple as just to built and let the birds come to multiply

Your friend are fortunate enough to have you accompany for BH hunting. As normal, others will blame to feng sui, location, and many other reasons if the BH fail. blame everything on bad luck and excuses after excuses. Hence the friend that we bring along will advise not to buy the fail BH.

Whether a BH is successful depends on the us in the equation. Effort, time, consideration, ethics, empathy, trust, commitment all come into play to achieve a balanced, happy birds.

start from somewhere is better then from scrap.

there's a Tamil proverb saying: To make a mistake once unknowingly is an error....to make it (again) knowingly, is a big MISTAKE!




This post has been edited by xunji: Apr 17 2011, 11:40 AM

birds curious when u play at other location cause it only in short period.

they had visited your birdhouse that i for sure. but unfortunately it had b rejected.

look back your sketch book about the design, den get a data logger n u will be surprise.

temp n humity n lux.

what v believe "OK" r actually not in order done.

[quote=northface,Jun 24 2011, 11:21 PM]
Yes the original entrance is better, but after 5 months like I said, only 2-3 spots on top floor, rest of the lower floors nothing.
So I scouted around the area and noticed most BHs there were facing the direction where the NEW side entrance is now.

correct me if i'm wrong.

if i not mistaken, yours is a standalone . pls draw what the pitch of the roof n type of roof?

if your is a r.c roof i will suggest convert it to dog kennel cause it will be minimal disturb.

10' x 12' LAL sufficient.

provided initial open roof r at the most ideal position. ie. fly path, east side, size minimun 10' x 12' clear void

i will extend the opening roof n convert it to dog kennel. no hacking r requird. dog kennel size will be 18' x 16' inner width with 8' height.

the room at old entrance at open roof will be remove.

70' x 23' is the size of bh, right?

from civil practice point 80' x 20' will be economical . all column apart is 16' .

after deduct staircase 4 feet n walkway 3 feet, left 13'. so opening 13'x 16' still acceptable


hence staircase r in a room, u can create a glass opening at the centre well.

in these case no additional beam r required n it will save cost on the rc work.





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yesterday i went to Temerloh, Pahang

visited a construction site, ( police station )

a interesting finding, they construct using cmu block. very cheap compare to double brick wall method construction.

no column and beam are need.

the cmu will replace the column and beam. only slab are need.

have anyone here use these material before.?

specification of the product said meet our bh requirement.

concrete masonry unit (CMU)

persianan bukit rahman putra is a mature location

Swiftlets Farming Equipments GMYS Enterprise is d name .

[quote=highcut28,Jul 23 2011, 11:15 PM]
[quote=xunji,Jul 22 2011, 09:40 PM]
persianan bukit rahman putra is a mature location

Hi Xunji,
what do u mean by 'mature location' ?
that there are other successful BHs around ? (i hope)
I contacted a certain consultant who told me that there is a failed 'govt'project nearby. It failed not becos there were no birds but that the internals of the BHs were not right.
Apparently they were doing the 'captive breeding' tech too.
Many thanks

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That location no birds test required. have many success bh located at the location.
further down, kundang also a good location.
for the last 8 year or more , BH were there .
i was there when during the sungai buluh hospital construction.

'captive ways' concept i personally feel will not work.

Newbizs wish to know on what to use and how to use..may talk to him but decide for yourself, I caution you unless you have a big fat pocket.

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Sam will provide u many info provided u yourself know what u need n required .
Agree with WW. Some items is to impress the owner more than the birds..

install a new ceiling using cemboard (4'x 8') 15mm thick under the existing (2'x4') ceiling board.
support of the new ceiling is from the exiting roof frame. punch a small hole from the exiting aluminium ceiling. leave a gap between the old and new ceiling.
above the existing ceiling, install a layer of aluminium sheet both sided , before Rockwell put in place. use a thin type of rock wool but high density.
thin type with higher density will have lesser weight but better insulation.
nesting plank can be install underneath the cemboard.

[quote=sfchung,Nov 18 2011, 08:22 PM]
Pls see attached files.




pls indicate the west n north.


2nd floor shouldnt install full length wall at the air well.

if u study the design carefully, without the full length wall v still can manage to block the sunlight.


new bird will be afraid to venture further in n down for the new bh.

the surrounding of the stand alone pls?

in these case why u putting the dog opening facing the S direction.

did u measure what the flux when u say id bright?

what is the size air well opening, and from the sketch, do u really required such a size?

when design , pay most attention on the incoming, moderate is the key.

when a wide opening, hence u need to do many partition to prevent sunlight n these will also prevent the bird.

for newcomer cctv will help u understand more behaviour n pls do not assume bird will like it.

is fine if without any partition or 60% length full height partition. generous to bird, 2nd floor act as roving area . when they feel save n feel your generous they will automatically stay in. instinct will made them go further down to 1st floor.

kind to them.

manjung district i pay b4 d license cause was forced, like it or not they mail to yr address as bill and mention is outstanding. so no choice to pay. but for two year liau didnt receive so tak bayar.

any1 have idea how much shrimp farm, Boer farm, chicken farm pay for or is there any license issue?

i agree with ww, agriland should b free.

for town what the fee or category should follow?