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 V3. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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jeffwpl
post Jan 5 2011, 02:30 PM

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hello guys, glad to find this forum.
i m newbie for swiftlet farming, my bh just completed & renovation in progress (hopefully could on the sound by CNY)
also hope to get learn & sharing with all sifus here.
happy farming... smile.gif
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post Jan 9 2011, 09:34 AM

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all sifus,
what aroma the best to remove the concrete smell?
kind advice is very much appreciated?
thanks in advance. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif icon_question.gif
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post Jan 9 2011, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(HornyAngMoh @ Jan 9 2011, 11:34 AM)
Just use swiftletshit, mix it up with water & put it if basin, have it all over your BH. Cheap & even FOC!  biggrin.gif

Good luck on your new BH & may u have lotsa of birdy! biggrin.gif
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hornyAngMoh,
thx for the advice. notworthy.gif
what mixture proportion should be the best, i mean 1kg of shit with how many litre of water?
water should be tap water or rain water?
is it practical to spray those mixture on the wall and floor,rather put basin around (bcoz it takes time. am i right?)
sorry for my silly questions. notworthy.gif icon_question.gif
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post Jan 9 2011, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(HornyAngMoh @ Jan 9 2011, 03:38 PM)

If spray on wall & floor.............sure the BH will get smelly faster but will ur [B]birdy build nest on dirty wall[/B]???  hmm.gif
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hahaha...i know what u mean now! thx. nod.gif
by the way, juz browsed thru the v1 & found one of sifu mentioned this:
1) 1kg of birdshit mix 1 litre of water, then ferment it for 10days
2) add fish oil in the ratio of 1:3 birdshit solution

however, fish oil hmm.gif ...where to get from the market instead of making ourself? or any alternative? e.g. duckegg?
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post Jan 11 2011, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Jan 10 2011, 11:29 AM)
Things that you don't understand is best not to use if you are trying to lure birds and not shark or eagle......these are swiftlets and the very reason for the Bird shit (not even human's) will be the same. Mixture percentage isn't an important for you are trying to make your building just like the swiftlet's home so the smell will definately attract the swiftlets into the building.... to be a birdhouse if you do it well.

Some posting @ forum are trying to make fool out of the newbizs by posting alot of nonsenses. To us, all shit smell like shit anyway but to sensitive swiftlets, swiftlets shits are swiftlets' and no other smell is the same........so, just leave experimenting to the old hand who can afford to so as their swifltets will never leave even if we try hard to chase them away; they will return again and again until they give up and that's they will.

Newbizs best try out those tested ways so as to be safe....for to you, every head is counted, I mean the swifltets and you will be worried if your BH fall short of afew but to those successful ones, a hundred missing, they still don't know.

One crazy friend that I met even suggested adding some "Kuat" pills to the humidifiers as he found that most of his birds aren't active in love making during the monsoon time and maybe they just need a booster dose to get the birds going hahaha and that he did and after afew days, he told us that it wasn't working but then, he has already thousands of birds in his BH and has no worry at all...just that we all have a good laugh over his stupidity.. have fun
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WestWing, thx for the long advice...u r real sifu! notworthy.gif


Added on January 11, 2011, 12:02 pm
QUOTE(Engineer Lee @ Jan 10 2011, 04:41 PM)
Fully agreed with what brother WW said.

Been to a very successful BH. Full of birds inside. Even u switch off the sound & on the light, they are still there. To harvest the nest, u have to face the lice problem. The lice likes to hide behind your ears. So everyone has to take bath b4 leaving the BH.

Back to removing of the cement smell.

The owner told me he never tried any aroma before in his BH. All he used is only bird shit + water and ..

a traditional way to remove smell by burning charcoal & heat up a pot with water inside (old type lampe berger, haha laugh.gif )..

Even though I have never tried this, but I think it should work to absorb the smell.

Just my humble 2 kupang.  smile.gif
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Eng Lee, thx for your view & the lice problem (but for mine, lice problem still long way to go tongue.gif )
but will keep in mind your concern nod.gif

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post Jan 14 2011, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(athlic @ Jan 13 2011, 09:32 PM)
hi tuckfook, heard of enzyme? i'm trying it out since got ppl say it will produce fuller nest, lesser lice, lesser cockroach, balance pH etc. Haha, wouldn't expect it to be a goldmine but i'll be happy if it can reduce the lice and the unwanted bugs in the BH.

sifu sifu sekalian, any idea how to reduce lice other than Ferdona or enzyme?


Added on January 13, 2011, 9:36 pmand another thing, i wonder did anyone maintain a record of how much BN cost over the years? would love to have them if anyone has it.

*still dreaming of a transparent market price for bird nest after 2 years+*

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i heard about enzyme as well, they claimed that it is clean, environment friendly, blablabla...
imo, enzyme could be a good one for maintaining the bh from those bugs & cleanliness(considering the benefit of household one).
but which type enzyme in the market is suit bh? where to get them? cost? application method?
i did contact thru' web about the supplier...but unfortunately, no response.
another worry point is the supply chain...while applied onto int & get a good result (AF use to it alrd), suddenly stop supplying. doh.gif
if u got a source, hope to publish here to share the details notworthy.gif
jeffwpl
post Feb 22 2011, 10:00 AM

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WW sifu,
bh newbies queries:
1) for new bh(20' x90'), how many birdshit (kg) needed the best?
2) b4 on the sound, how long (days) to let birdshit smell make effect?
3) lizard...heard the sound but couldnt locate where it is? wht the best method to locate them?

thx in advance for opinions (all sifus' r welcome if available).

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post Feb 22 2011, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Feb 22 2011, 04:59 PM)
Hopefully, we can many forum friends discussing here and hope to receive feedback from all. Below are all my opinions only.

1)  There isn't a specifications on how much is needed but rather if you need it or not. If you need it, then get the best of it and that's fresh BS for performance or you may want to use processed BS...... 
2) Again, there is no standard for it and if your BS is really good and there are lots of birds in the sky, with good sound, immediate result may occur and birds will rush it and check out your BH. Checking it out doesn't mean they will be staying cos it need more that BS to do the trick. Other factors are needed and pls. read V1, V2 and V3. Many books on swiftlets although most are for newbizs will give you the information you need.
3) Lizards???? I can't help you on this as I don't have this problem as all L are either dead or disappear in my BHs. Someone pls. help here.

May we have other view or comments on the matters.
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thxs for your opinion notworthy.gif
i m looking for bs, any supplier near kmn? icon_question.gif
how nice to hear all lizard die at yor bh w/o doing anything thumbup.gif
i m not lizard killer but need to chase them out, otherwise will be a disaster for my new bh rclxub.gif
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post Feb 23 2011, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Feb 22 2011, 05:25 PM)
If you are from Kmn. then it shouldn't be a problem at all. Phone up your friends in the BH Buz and they will gladly get BS when they do the cleaning..............Kmn. BH owners are all friends and can share many others including BS.. Hope that help.
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thx in advance. smile.gif
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post Feb 24 2011, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Feb 24 2011, 11:24 AM)
Somewhere near swimming pool location isnt? i have a few friends built their Bird House around there.


Added on February 24, 2011, 11:25 am
If i were you, i will choose the chicken coup humidifier instead of ultrasonic one. Because the cost is much cheaper and easy to maintain. smile.gif
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hello mois sifu,
wht they looked like between "chicken coup" & "ultrasonic", any photos to share? notworthy.gif

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