I may be wrong and hope that I am wrong as the new GP disallow open window type and also DK face some problems with the local authorities due to the changes in the structure of the building only if your BH @ town only. Agriland, no problem lah.

Personally, I never like to change entrance if the entrance is good. Changing of entrance will effect the population of swiftlets although the most of the old faithful will slowly returning back after some assurance that there is no problem with the new entrance. During initial period, you may see alot of swiftlets flying over your BH not knowing what to do and many even loiter and stay nearby.  It may take a few days for them to settle down.

Just my observation and if others wish to share their experience.

Recently, I played a deadly "catch me if you can" game with a little bat in my 3 storey BH. That little bat made me climbed up and down the 3 floors repetitively and from one end to another each floor, hoping to defeat me with a fall thru LAL by enforced errors. The game lasted 30 min before the little bat lost interest to play with me and disappeared in thin air. I was lucky to survive from the game with the strongly built permanent concrete staircase with protection metal railing. Luckily my ceiling is not too high to enable me to play a fair game with that little bat.

I wonder how some BHs without permanent staircase from floor to floor and also high ceiling BH would have possibly play this type of game ?

Badminton racket is too small and short for me, I used something bigger and longer, fishing nets. But still difficult to catch because the bats echolocation can sense the movement of the nets and avoid it. But after the chase, the same bat never return the next day.

Last Friday, I just went to visit 2 3S BHs (25x80) for sales @ RM520 K each with an acre of wet land @ Pekan. Over 6 months and after viewing the BH, I feel sad for the owners as the conditions and methods are not to my expectation of BH sanctuary specifications.  On the way to the location, over 50 BHs can be seen by the lane and what about the interior which is not visible to my eyes......I went into the BH, the smell is not what I expect a BH should smell and too many even to comment.

If he is selling @ cost, then I will buy and try my luck but at the price quoted then I need to consider or recommending them to my friends to invest there as we will need to spend alot of money and also the location is too far and also at that area over 10 BHs, all not succefull.....so the competition to lure swiftlets is very high and difficult.  Area suitable but everybody fighting for survival and that why I am against Eco Park concept in the first place for if too many BHs at ond location it's itself create a difficulty to gather enough birds to sustain and generate enough income to justified investment. The older BHs at the location will be better as they have an early start in the race. 

Any buyers here interested, I can introduce the broker to you without any commission or kickback to me.  There are many sellers @ Pekan and even failed BHs, some sellers are offering high prices for their BHs. One BH (3years) with just 200 nests is asking for 1.2M.

So, before you jump the Gun, make sure that your money is well invested at good location and with good consultant or contractor. Even if you failed, then you will get back all your money invested but don't expect to make alot of money for a failed BH unless the new intended buyer is a Fool.

Above is just my opinions on the matter concerning BH investment.

ww and other sifu, can you share in this forum the proper and effective BN cleaning methods for own consumption (never mind  about the shape) ?

The method that I use is soak the BN in water, filter out the dirt, soak in water again (Put in the fridge and over night) and bring out the next day filter out the dirt again. repeat the process until no more dirt but fine feathers, use the tweezers to remove the fine feathers as the final cleaning process.

1. Under GP1, no more new BH @ town and there are really too many restrictions and the situation is very suitable for any new BH @ town. Can you solve these?

try to pay a visit to indonesia bird nest city......nearest one would be nearby medan (about 1.5hrs drive), then u know what i'm talking about. chinese say "cry without tear drop".

This bird nest city over 1000 BH (30yrs ago) and at one time the sky is clouded with swiftlet. Unfortunately, now the highest harvest is no way more than 4kg per month. Reason being, too many BH along the flying path, open burning (no food sauce, got to fly far away) & too much development. It is similar to kota bahru (any few more bird nest city), my friend BH use to harvest over 60kg/mth (7yrs ago) but now less than 20kg/mth. Another example, kuantan, use to harvest 25kg/mth now 15kg/mth.

every new place, where have 15yrs to farm is consider mature already i.e. too many BH surrounded u. u got to keep moving to find new location.

thailand is still very new in this industry i.e. government not much concern yet. i would say similarily to malaysia BH back in 1995.  easier to farm as all the cave nest (island) fully tenanted and each batch, u can imagine how many young birds are looking for home. If interested, i have a few for sell too (don't worry all good potential with monthly reasonable harvest)

This is an important message and appeal from DL to all fellow forumers.  
Dear friends, do all of you still remember or that forgetful of the SARAWAK MUKAH SWIFTLET MASSACRE of 14.10.2008 and the hard time that we tried to help and go through?  This could be the only correct timing and opportunity for all of us here in unity to assist the DAP/PR to help the Sarawakians to throw the corrupted idiots and their cronies into the sea. The DAP/PR can’t do it alone without your support. Please provide all sorts of assistances to them now voluntarily. But the most important is MONEY. Without this, the DAP/PR election vehicle couldn’t go far. I am not from Sarawak, yet I am donating a few kg of nest to them. I feel this is my moral obligation to help the poor fellow Malaysians in Sarawak who have been suffering for the last 30 years. This is the only way I could offer to help. After all, I don’t think I could bring along all my hard earned wealth into my grave. Better donate some now to help them to create better future for our next generation through the DAP/PR fighters. Sikit Sikit Jadi Bukit. Please email and spread this message to as many as you could. Also call up all your friends and relatives in Sarawak telling them not to be selfish and advising them be united to go all out to render whatever assistance to the DAP & PR during this Sarawak Election period. It lasts only 2 weeks as from now. If everything with god blessing, goes fine, every Sarawakian BH owner could sleep soundly after that. If not, again in nightmares.......poor Sarawakian BH owner brothers..... UNITY IS ALWAYS STRENGTH AT THE RIGHT TIMING.......

Regards,
DL
31.03.11Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011
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Subject: Contribute to DAP Sarawak Election Campaign!

Dear fellow Malaysians,

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Since increasing number of BHs suffer slow and no-growth bird populations in town and running a BH in town is no longer viable business plan, operators should take the initiatives to move to agri land with support from the state gov.

Please everyone, for the sake of our future please visit.

http://polls.thestar.com.my/

Currently, those in favour of Teaching Science and Maths in BM is about 60%

Let's change that !

i .. I am a Newbie here

Read the blog of the renowned consultant, Mr Hairy Cock .

He makes it sound easy to earn big money in siwftlet farming, eg average of 10kg a month or if u started a BH 20 years ago, then you should be harvesting at least 200kg a month.

Thinking about it , 200kg is around 20,000 nests a month in one BH. RM 800,000 /month ? For me this is illogical.

My questions are:
1) What is the max harvest per month you've seen in lets say,a 2 storey BH ?

2) Average harvest of 2 storey BH?
Nowadays, my friend told me 1kg/month is considered 'very good' ald ( around 110 nests)

3) Failure rate for new BH is 80%. How do define the successful ones? More than 50 nests in the first year?
Some of the figures you get from friends or coffee shot chat might not be accurate due to exaggeration/boasting. I mean from your personal experience or reliable sources.
I've seen and talked to some 'Consultants' and those numbers they give does not make any sense to me, just to cash on our greed if you know what I mean.
They make it look so easy, my friends told me owning a BH is not as easy as it seems.
Thanks

However, it is different story if you build it and sell it.

That's the very reason that I don't want to venture into the agriland unless force to like at the present situation.

At towns, it is already so difficult to enforce safety of our BHs and what about agriland BHs. Unless, we are all going to stay at our Agriland to protect our birds. Coming to the protection of BH @ agriland, a fellow fenced up his BH and use dogs to protect his BH and recently all dogs are found dead, murdered by thieves and how safe will you be if you are staying there.

At least, if there are many BHs around the area, we can employ security guards 24 hours to protect our property@agriland. If intending to build one @ agriland, do like me,,,,,,build one with top security in mind and birds friendly in the second place as it's shall be useless that you build the BH and some else steal the profit and God have mercy on the dead chicks.  Build it high and strong, I believe.

Hahaha how many times I state that A SUCKER IS BORN EVERY MINUTE OF THE DAY.
I have pointed out the false claim of incredible result in a short time.

I have been brewing my own aroma base on Pak Han formula for past 4 years and only for my own use. I am very sure that they are helpful to settled in  the birds in new BH also served as a imprinting for young birds .

If my aroma can pull in 1400 nests in 2 years I wouldn't be bordered  to sell them and be laughing even in my sleep and at least owned 100 BHs all over south east Asia and inspecting by BH in my private jets. I wonder why this d*** head is still a struggling consultant ???? Bagger !

Oh by the way did you read about the new improved formula ??? Pls wake up readers if it's so powerful and good why do you need new formula ??.Oh there is a disclaimer !! If you complain that it is rubbish then the blame is on imitation LP HAHahaha

taking about BH security, one friend took me to a workshop making metal door esp.  for BH and each costing more than Rm 4000 and I think Jail door look more like toy door compare to these doors that my friend ordered...and and a friend order 7 of such doors for his BHs excluding the birds entrance doors costing more than above amount using 3ins round bars at 4ins wide. I think each door need 8 people just to lift it and to open the door will take the owner more than 30 minutes. The workshop manager told me that the doors are make to the owner's measurement like arm length. Each door uses 6 locks each costing over Rm350 not included in the cost  but do come with a secret additional lock for free.

It will take a James Bond to break in thru the doors, I think and why bother with such dramatic preventive security things; giant metal doors and electronics alarms and what have you but the wall is still a wall. all they need is to break in thru the wall and thus bypass all your efforts.

Sometime, you wonder to what extend can a BH owner gone to prevent nets stealing.... crazy but it's isn't for me, that's I am sure. Any comment on the matter?