Hi Bobby

Totally agreed with you. All those window dressing by the media reporting all those so-called-news, only they know how many really materialise and work.

Ma Lai Si Yah Boleh

Hi WW.

<Cleaning is maintain health and better nests cos most BHs are too low and polution @ birdnests.>

When you do the cleaning, do you clean up everything or have to leave some
behind for the smell?

<For those very particular on nests quality, do clean more often>

I heard that after some time, they will be mites built up in the birds' poop. The mite will bite and suck the blood of baby birds and will also left one's skin itchy. How to deal with this mite. Using chemical will leave a strong smell which might drive the birds away?

<Never clean up when new cos you want the aroma and not willing to pay for the smell and what better than the origin smell.>

I heard one guy recommended that for new BH,for first 2 years do not do any harvesting as this method will speed up the population in the building.

I do not understand as once the fledging left the nest, the nest will not be recycle again. Birds will build new nest for fresh lay. If so, how does not harvesting helps in the multiplication of birds???

<Clean occasionally when OK cos you don't want to disturb too much but want to have a healthy BH.
Clean often when very successful as then, quality is what you want and volume isn't a topic at all.>

Very good advice. My appreciation.

WW, have you heard of a big project for BH in Jerangau, somewhere near the polo club. News or rumours that 40% harvest there is blood nest!!! I thought West Malaysia do not have blood nest, very confuse

Thank you in advance for your time and effort in here.

Have a good day.

Hi WW

Thanked you so much for your detailed advice to my previous posting

FYI, I am a consumer and does not own a BH at the moment. Can I buy direct from you please?

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I put the unprocessed birdnest into fridge inside a container. After sometime I found that it strink in size, maybe due to dehydration. So if the nest is put into chiller, will lost $$$ due to dehydration?

Is our govt representative goin to China to clarify the nitrite level and the work on lifting the ban imposed by China? I have China friends told me that China has news spreading that birdnest nutrients is not as good as it claim afterall This will be bad for Malaysia. Any doctor or expert help to clarify this to China, what about our heallllth dept!!!

Have a good day

Hi Sifus & Fellow Members

I attended the butrajaya talk. it seems that they sent out invitation letter to existing processor and exporters. I disguised myself as representing my uncle and they insist I wrote down as farmer.

Whenever pioneers (e.g. dato beh) brought up existing problems, the MOH Mdm knew all problems. Unfortunately, no solutions were given. Afraid EBN matters will ended up like the export of seafood to EU which was delay for almost 2 years.

The funny thing is that nothing mention how MOH is going to address the Nitrate ppm. This issue can only be solved between G2G. Hope some Datos with strong connection can speed up the MOH to solve the issue very soon. MOH is trying to convince China to accept 1ppm. But can our EBN has such low ppm

God Bless Malaysia Boleh Nest Industries.

Cheers

hi CK

I missed it. Any clue whether there is a repeat of the discussion?
thank you very much.
Cheers

Hi CK

Thanked you so much for the updated info. Fortunately I did not sacrify my sleep-in wonderful day for the ground zero program.

Does Vet Dept implement 1Msia Tracebility System for all husbandary industries, i.e. GPS for all animals farm or only specially for our dear swiftlet. If so, how precious they love swifltet to take that extra expensive care, at farmers expenses.

Due to all China issue, no I have to review my invetment in BH as it is my hardearned money. I learned alot from this forum. Appreciation to all Sifus

Good day

Good evening WW

That seminar in Putrajaya drawn out clearly that BH only register with Vet. After this point, i.e.once raw birdnests are sold regardless to local or overseas market, then have to register with MOH. Then have to apply for SK1M or GAP or HACCP or HACCP1Malaysia. SK1M is for small players and FOC. HACCP 1 MALAYSIA also is FOC for small timer whereas big timer rich enough to pay for HACCP . That was the comment by MOH

A HK friend in BN business said the same thing that tons of BN holding in HK. They might be turning it into white now

WW, wanna check with you why some BH put up partitions? Does it really help or hinder the swiftlet, blocking their path?

Cheers

Very Good morning WW

You always answered all question very very well. Thank you thank you

OIC, so swiftlet do fights too. I heard that those swiftlet patronising rivers are of bigger size and they will fight off other swiftlet species. Is it true that this type of swiftletts' produce bigger size nest? Then 'far tat loh'

So better start off without partition to save cost and until and unless necessary then still can put up. I thought each house only have 1 Tay Koh (leader). Looks like that is not the case.

Pray that BN business will not be monopolise to favour a few. When are they going to learn their lessons???

How nice if CK can get a copy of the HK analysis report of the nitrite after cooking. This to present to MOA or MOH to substantial the claim. They have to be fed loh.

Cheers to all members

Dear Sifus

Appreciaiton to TF for the initiative.

Does anyone have contacts with Tan Sri Robert Kuok. I read an article that he is very influential in China. If I am not wrong, he is a pioneer to invest in China way back in 1970s or 1980s. He has a chain of Shangarila hotels in China and still expanding. He will be of great help to Malaysia BN i.e. birdnest industry.

God bless us.

Very good morning CK

Cheer up man, be positive and look at the bright sunny day today.

Accoridng to reports, HK imported 80% of BN. Their main market in China. They are the bigger loser if mainland really stop consuming BN. HKies will take action to remedy this issue. But this doesn't means Msia do not have to do anything. Just my 2 cents

Cheers guys

Hi Members

I have someone looking for 300 - 500 kgs of Grade A cleaned birdnest. Please quote. Genuien nest and offer please.

Thank you.

Hi WW & CK

Totally agreed with you that when they are still buyers around, meaning the demand is there. Good advice for the industry to hold the stock to stable the price. It is just like shares trading, panic selling will cause the BN sharemarket down south.

Tinklebell is just a normal person who is very interested to own a BH, god's willing. I have been following this forum actively and learn alot. Sometimes input one or two of my 2 cents

The enquiry is from a friend. I have question him of the order too. He tome is serious, but only god knows. I am just coordinating and if the deal is success then maybe I get a few pieces FOC from him.

CK, you can PM me the price and it will be treated strictly P&C. I am a friend here and not enermy or sobatager as I will be in the same ship hopefully very very soon God's willing.

Good to get rid once and for all the color thing. Get he REAL thing lah.

BTW, someone mention about a machine for cleaning that will lower the nitrite level. What type of machine is this? Is it a filter only? Where to get it? I wanted to know for knowledge. Who knows I might process my own from my own BH in future

Good day Guys

Hi Guys

Isn't this forum a democratic forum. I thought at least in here we are free to voice and share our opinion. Feedback from others might lead us to learn new things, knowledge and even learn our mistake.

I hope that the forum here is free for all to talk. Like not the other side of the world (outside) where 'We have the freedom to talk. Only after the talk that we do not have the freedom' quote RPK

This forum is free for all. Readers are free to take it or leave it or leave your comment.

TOMORROW WILL BE A BETTER DAY

PEAVEE & CHEERS to all

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Added on October 12, 2011, 5:33 pmOopss..... I mean PEACE & CHEERS

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Added on October 12, 2011, 5:39 pmHi KL

Is it too much to ask what are the above website talking about? Potatoe here.

Thank you,

This post has been edited by TinkleBell: Oct 12 2011, 05:39 PM

Hi KL

Thanked you for the above information. The Indon used swiftlet's shit to smoke the birdnest? That is yukky man
So after smoking with the shit, the color will be dark red color. OMG

GOD is so thoughful to bless us with such nutritious food, yet human always want to challenge GOD

For the 2nd site, do you have english version?

thank you.

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Added on October 12, 2011, 10:33 pmhi KL

For the HK dialogue, is it open to public? If I happen to be in HK, I would like to attend too.

Thank you for the info.

This post has been edited by TinkleBell: Oct 12 2011, 10:33 PM

Good morning WW

Thanked you very much for your advice.

Cheers

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Added on October 13, 2011, 11:31 amGood morning Mr KL

Please can you type all in english!!! What is that??? Thank you

This post has been edited by TinkleBell: Oct 13 2011, 11:31 AM

Good afternoon WW

Totally agreed with you. This is the time called 'Ngai Gay' From any crisis there is an opportunity. See who is the tycooon aka tai koh who will take up this 'Gay'. Pioneer BH's owners who own many number of Bhs and was told to make Billion$, willing to take up and do a good deed to save BN industry. God bless you to be the $aviour. Halleluyah