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 V3. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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post Jun 25 2011, 12:16 AM

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The more you disturb the bh the longer you have to wait. The birds will eventually go down to the lower floors, just you wait.
I would think LAL right under a straight flying path is less ideal than under a turning flying path.
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post Jun 25 2011, 10:20 AM

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I guess the slow growth in your bh is primarily due to the 'maze' in your bh. The birds feels dangerous to maneuver like going to Cemoron via Tapah old road. Only few birds would decide to stay.
One of the reasons for partitioning is for colony segregation. But your bh over done it.
There is another method of partitioning for colony segregation, control of lights, that is by way of 'drop down partition'.
Just use planks or plywood to extend min 1' from the beam or 2' from the ceiling. This method has many advantages over room type partition. It segregate colonies, block lights to the nesting plank only while the floor still visible to bird's eyes ( for fast n clear emergency escape), toll plaza free super highway in your bh, easy maintenance, low cost.
Some bh built multi levers nesting planks condo at the beam for dual purposes, partition and increase nesting real estate.

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post Jul 3 2011, 01:08 AM

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Your design is more or less similar to mine and I regretted my design because of the staircase insides the building.
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post Jul 3 2011, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Cergau @ Jul 3 2011, 02:54 AM)
Why?
Is it cos'
1)each time you go in you can't avoid disturbing the birds?
2)prevents an unobstructed flight path
3)taken up space you could have used for NP?

If space optimisation (thus costs) wasn't a concern I would like my staircase isolated in it's own well too (like the pic I shared in V2).
If the stairwell is built on the west wall it does double duty as a double wall for insulation.
But it will result in my west facing LMB having to be a tunnel the length of the width of the staircase.
Not sure a tunnel like LMB will be a problem for the birds.
I can't consider east facing LMB due to neighbor's rubber trees obstructing the flight path.
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The first reason.

I all for isolated staircase well at the LAL or roving tunnel or annex to the outside wall. Open a 2' x 2' hole with sliding plywood window at the staircase entrance each floor for observatory and monitoring purposes (placing cctv at the hole) without human present being felt by the birds.

The bottom line is, the BH design must provide human access to every part of the the building without going thru the nesting area. I learned my lesson the hard way when the hired workers walked up and down the nesting area just to fixed a small roofing problem and the birds don't like it.

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post Jul 20 2011, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(edmondhong @ Jul 20 2011, 12:00 AM)
Guyz i am about to start in swiftlet farming.. Please Please advise me how to start? I have just read Dr Lim Book but it's not enough!

How to know more? What ewlse to read? Do i have to attend Dr Lim seminar?

Thank you

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You can read v1 where TS wrote about he first BH project start up.
Yes please attend seminar to fast tract your foundation knowledge in swiftlets farming.
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post Jul 22 2011, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(edmondhong @ Jul 21 2011, 09:58 PM)
How do i do a bird call? Where do i get those equipments?
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Buy the SOS sound then play it with the car stereo. Simple as that.
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post Jul 22 2011, 12:12 PM

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I think bro cergau had demonstrated a step by step guide to DIY a bird call kit for less than RM50 in v2.
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post Aug 9 2011, 01:48 PM

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Aiyo.... weapon of mass destruction leaked liau... cry.gif

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post Sep 8 2011, 06:31 PM

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@Rayat

The failure rate for agri land BH is very high. Last time was around 70% to 80% and now is even more higher.

Therefore there is a 80% chance, 4 childhood friends start arguing when there is no income from the JV after few years. Things like below will happen:
*some of you might stop chipping in money.
*no one bother to spend time working on the BH.
*the person doing the most work start accusing the person who didn't do anything to help.

The land owner is the most beneficial if the BH failed because he doesn't have to buy up the remaining shares in order to own the BH. Unless you guys register a Sdb Bhd and transfer the land ownership to the Sdn Bhd.
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post Sep 26 2011, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(tuckfook @ Sep 24 2011, 09:30 PM)
DVS requires everyone that deals with Edible Birds' Nest to register with them by 1st October 2011. Check out their website.

What can happen if we do not register?
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I think nothing will happen. I already registered since November 2010, nothing happen also, like never registered. DVS never come to visit my BH.
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post Sep 26 2011, 03:15 PM

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I think they just want to trace where we are first especially the bh GPS coordinates. Anything happen in the future, easy for them to locate us.
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post Oct 13 2011, 09:17 AM

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http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/222975?tid=1

Datuk Beh long distance telephone interview from China by sin chew. Take your medicine first before reading sweat.gif sweat.gif


Added on October 13, 2011, 9:24 am
QUOTE(West Wing @ Oct 13 2011, 09:12 AM)
So, the picture is clear as to whom is behind all these RED nests and why we, Malaysian nests are single out to be punished. We, Malaysian and Malaysian nests are not involved at all. That's I don't know and the Fed. Association should clarified with the Chinese Authorities on the matter and if possible keep us informed.

Shits was good as we know for attracting swiftlets but now, we know it also can produce RED nests.............never too old to learn!!!!!! All these while, I though that they only spray it on to the unharvested nests but now smoking the nests with S***, that's news.
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If not mistaken, koh loh already disclosed how to produced blood nest using birdshit more than a year ago in v1 or maybe v2. The information is still there.

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post Oct 13 2011, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(kohloh @ Oct 13 2011, 10:15 AM)
If not mistaken, koh loh already disclosed how to produced blood nest using birdshit more than a year ago in v1 or maybe v2. The information is still there.
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yah mea??cant remember so much la after kena tis crisis now,,,,actually its not any well keep secret la fr us long enough in this trad.
i belive many dont know wat actually click this crisis to happen at e first.....who to blame....every one........
red nest porducer...using MAL tat hav e right to export direct  to CN...teaming up wit some guy localy here to apply fr export to CN legaly wit e application form fr 2ton each shipment(saw e application form)may i ask who hav e capable to export 2ton in 1 shipment fr local players??i saw it as was there applying fr an 5kg to shanghai customer.so they smuggler it to here then treat it as MALAI nest then sent legaly but our GOV also gong gong creating those rules tat we only bring samples bout 30g fr inspection then get e OK to sent dy...so kena la few times in CN kena sizes by custom there as the document only written e word ""燕窝"" n didnt say its red or golden or white or triangle or strips....org gomen kerja mahu senang ma...so when they get e approval can easly sent what they like la by using MAL name.after few case in CN e gov step up to fix u guys la
so,,,whos to blame....??those whos use MAL names n a bunch of guys tat  drool.gif fr e little commision frm their bos la...
SIN is e first country tat hav right to export to CN many years back n people doing business there e right way didnt create any problem fr so many years but this time is drag by tis tooo....guys over there bing bing  piang piang us dy...
now consumer whole world takut this ""燕窝""thing aready n can we rebuilt their confident or not really dont know but it will surely takes years aggree by all major players in this trade...
news by internet is fast .........http://www.zaobao.com/yx/yx111013_007.shtml    rclxub.gif
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Got lah....nah... 4 years ago in fact
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post Oct 14 2011, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(kohloh @ Oct 14 2011, 09:09 AM)
bro...wanna leak,,dont leak too much....cukup jus fr those rotten news ny,,,, rclxub.gif
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Bro, I really enjoy reading your posts. so juicy any so many lieu. Semua hamtam direct, no hiding hiding one thumbup.gif If you don't want to leak lieu then I bey song liao cry.gif
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post Oct 28 2011, 11:45 AM

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What is the easiest and faster way to clean the BN for immediate persona consumption where final cup shape is not necessary ?

I'm contemplating to get an ultrasonic cleaner to speed up the process but would like to listen to opinion from the sifu first.
1) How effective is ultrasonic cleaner on BN ?
2) Ultrasonic cleaner is normally used on hard or metal or non-biological object to break up contaminants like dust, dirt, oil, pigments, grease, polishing compounds, flux agents, fingerprints, soot wax and mold release agents, biological soil like blood and so on. Since BN's property is also biological, will it break up the BN's property too ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_cleaning


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post Oct 29 2011, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Edward Wai @ Oct 29 2011, 05:41 PM)
My area, Pahang, the buyer offer only Rm 2800 for Grade A,
same as last week.
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What about campur grade ?


Added on October 29, 2011, 5:59 pm
QUOTE(West Wing @ Oct 29 2011, 01:17 PM)
in my opinion, to clean nests for own use, one need only to rinse the nests over running tap water to clear out all S and other waste in the nest and then put the nests into the refrigerator for a few hours.

Take them out and remove all visible feathers with tweeter, and since it's for own use, you might as well spread out the nests to remove all tiny feathers hidden between the nest and lastly, put the nest into a bowl of water and in water, any tiny feather missed will be visible and you need to remove them and you end up having 100% pure nest without any feather.

Well, that's the way my wife done it as I don't have the time to do these eye straining work....and it work well and tried ultrasonic cleaner, it doesn't seem to work.........
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Thank you WW.

Ultrasonic bath doesn't work at all ?

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post Oct 31 2011, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Oct 30 2011, 05:51 PM)
Hello everybody,

I got 2 pieces of land at Johor and I have some question about swiftlet business:

1) What is average output (in kg) per month for 3 storey building?
2) One of the land is near to someone house. I heard that we can't build near house. Is it true?
3) Both lands now is on palm oil plantation. So, is it suitable to setup the swiftlet building at the same land?
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1) The closest answer to this question is 100g to 50kg depending on how big and how successful your BH is.

2) It depends. But must not be Kawasan Tumpuan Activity Bandar. Kindly refer to GAHP rules as discussed earlier.

3) Why not ? as long as you can attract the swiflets and your BH is equip with state of the art anti theft, anti predator facilities. There are hundreds of BH in the Palm Oil plantation along the major highway.
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post Nov 11 2011, 04:23 PM

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Can I bring along with me (check-in baggage) 2 pcs raw unprocessed bird's nests to London via KLIA without declaring it ? Or is there any procedures to comply with ?

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