sifus , need some of your professional information and suggestion ,

did you all heard of this watch "Ingersoll" made in germany , http://www.ingersoll-watches.co.uk/

i'm looking into this model "grand canyon" but dunno what movement is it using .

http://www.ingersoll-watches.co.uk/index.p...ID=65&iSC=&iC=1

can pro's out there gimme some infor and suggestion ?

thanks

using seagull movement ah , then should be not very good lo right and no ppl collect watches with seagull movement right ?

does seagull movement made the watch go lighter in weight 1 ah , cox the watch looks huge but feel light when hold .

rm1200 retail for a ingersoll grand canyon automatic , not that value for money & collectibility right if compare to CW , steinhart , stowa ?

thanks bro for the info , will definitely check CW out , prob is have to buy online, not familiar with online shopping thingy.

so "Ingersoll" with seagull movement is no go right ?

to sifu's out there ,

http://www.russia2all.com , is buying from this website safe ?

http://www.russia2all.com/shop-by-russian-...4265609060.html

http://www.russia2all.com/shop-by-russian-...4265602059.html

both this watch looks good to me , is it a good buy ?

and izzit can purchase it without vat ? roughly how much is the shipping cost ah?

thx thx