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TSyoboy
post May 7 2010, 01:38 AM, updated 16y ago

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Hi guys.. In MMU a lecturer who has master's by research (engineering) can earn rm4.1k. Senior lecturers can earn up to 6.5k and associate professors almost 10k. How about in public University? and in universities in Singapore? Anyone knows?

Information needed to decide possible future career path .. laugh.gif
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post May 7 2010, 01:39 AM

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deja vu. have you posted this before?

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post May 7 2010, 01:40 AM

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something similar yes .. I asked about MMU FOSEE lecturers yesterday..
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post May 7 2010, 01:40 AM

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post May 7 2010, 01:41 AM

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PhD holders automatically get senior lecturer status when they start. but i thought senior lecturers earn more than 6.5k.. dunno la
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post May 7 2010, 01:42 AM

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post May 7 2010, 01:43 AM

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LKW Senior lectures around 7-8k
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post May 7 2010, 01:43 AM

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Depend on their qualitifaction if got PHD better paid
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post May 7 2010, 01:44 AM

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IPTA. I think with PhD u start at 8k total... as in, allowances all lumped in already la
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post May 7 2010, 01:45 AM

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im not sure about other universities, but in MMU even if you have pHD no auto seniority.. you've to have enough publication and you'll have to go through selection and interview and stuffs.. -from reliable source, lecturer himself-
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post May 7 2010, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(0mars @ May 7 2010, 01:44 AM)
IPTA. I think with PhD u start at 8k total... as in, allowances all lumped in already la
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government university pay so high? higher than private? anyone knows pay for phd holders in private university? my lecturer told me in MMU after get PHD few hundreds increment only.. im not convinced but.....
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post May 7 2010, 01:48 AM

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but MMU is an IPTS. It was part of the governments response to the Uni rankings a few years back when none of the malaysian unis were in the world top 200.

They started this scheme for the IPTAs where all lecturers had to be moving towards a PhD and new lecturers with PhD automatically get Senior Lecturer position.
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post May 7 2010, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(colex08 @ May 7 2010, 01:40 AM)
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low profile.. associate proff higher pay than dean.. dean's pay not so much, he gets his basic pay + allowance for becoming dean.. allowance like rm1k++.. so in MMU, if he's a senior lecturer, then 6.5k+1K++=7.5k++... associate proff almost 10k.. but normally dean is also associate professor.. or professor
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ur lecturer including allowances or not? tongue.gif

base pay lower than 8k la.. but i dunno how much
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post May 7 2010, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(0mars @ May 7 2010, 01:48 AM)
but MMU is an IPTS. It was part of the governments response to the Uni rankings a few years back when none of the malaysian unis were in the world top 200.

They started this scheme for the IPTAs where all lecturers had to be moving towards a PhD and new lecturers with PhD automatically get Senior Lecturer position.
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thats nice to hear.. no wonder lots of people running to IPTA. in IPTA go retirement age for lecturers?
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post May 7 2010, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(0mars @ May 7 2010, 01:49 AM)
ur lecturer including allowances or not? tongue.gif

base pay lower than 8k la.. but i dunno how much
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IPTA not much allowance.. for normal lecturers i think none, or none that I am aware of. You seem to know alot about IPTA, you from IPTA?
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post May 7 2010, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(0mars @ May 7 2010, 01:48 AM)
but MMU is an IPTS. It was part of the governments response to the Uni rankings a few years back when none of the malaysian unis were in the world top 200.

They started this scheme for the IPTAs where all lecturers had to be moving towards a PhD and new lecturers with PhD automatically get Senior Lecturer position.
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any estimation on new lecturer with masters?
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post May 7 2010, 01:52 AM

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ask firedauz, he's a lecturer
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post May 7 2010, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(colex08 @ May 7 2010, 01:40 AM)
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i lol at ur statement.. people dun hv to drive expensive car to justify their salary

i almost 5k, still driving my old '99 proton
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post May 7 2010, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(yoboy @ May 6 2010, 05:51 PM)
IPTA not much allowance.. for normal lecturers i think none, or none that I am aware of. You seem to know alot about IPTA, you from IPTA?
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Nope! my dad is a.p., he tried to convince me to do my PhD and become a lecturer. So he gave me all those figures la tongue.gif haha

After going through my masters, I never wanna do research again.

But then again, each person is different. It might suit you perfectly.
Forget about the pay first and decide whether you would enjoy it. If you think you will, you have 6 years of being a student ahead of you. the "gaji" you mentioned should just consider allowance tongue.gif
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i m doing part time in few unis / colleges, teaching architectural design / construction. pay ranges fr rm 150 - 250 / hour for 2 - 4 hrs per week per uni..... n i hv a 9 yrs exp in construction industry, i m a full time construction manager in a MNC in KL.

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post May 7 2010, 02:40 AM

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not really much.. my friend work as lecturer in USM only got rm 12500 basicpay a month.. quite little..

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Nowdays many wannabe lecturer think teaching make sounds easy as ABC...some fresh lecturers has low quality in terms of his teaching skill, knowledge and attitude towards job ,... came in late for class, came in as they wish. so care free and fuked with his own sweet time during the class and so on plus hes also a racist too !!
what happend !!!
This happened to me back in the days when I was study in SEGi Subang Jaya.
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Naaah http://www2.tganu.uitm.edu.my/ilqam/dokumen/FM/Gaji.pdf
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RM3.5k & above for certain IPTAs for non-Phd.

After getting Phd title, maybe go up to RM4k-5k.
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QUOTE(yoboy @ May 7 2010, 01:38 AM)
Hi guys.. In MMU a lecturer who has master's by research (engineering) can earn rm4.1k. Senior lecturers can earn up to 6.5k and associate professors almost 10k. How about in public University? and in universities in Singapore? Anyone knows?

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Of course higher in Singapore U. smile.gif

I suggest you go there, do your PhD as well.


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post May 7 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(accitzone @ May 7 2010, 02:35 AM)
i m doing part time in few unis / colleges, teaching architectural design / construction. pay ranges fr rm 150 - 250 / hour for 2 - 4 hrs per week per uni
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Depends on your qualification, you can get as high as rm200 per hour tongue.gif (3 hours per week = rm600 per week, one month = rm2.4k as part time)


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post May 7 2010, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ May 7 2010, 06:51 AM)
RM3.5k & above for certain IPTAs for non-Phd.

After getting Phd title, maybe go up to RM4k-5k.
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Now it is very difficult to apply for post of junior lecturer with only master degree sweat.gif

Junior lecturer (DS45) RM4.5k (all in) Min req = Master degree.

Senoir lecturer (DS51) RM6.5k (all in) Must have PhD.
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check it out in swinburne kuching, lol

http://www.swinburne.edu.my/hr/salary-scale.htm

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QUOTE(alex6540 @ May 7 2010, 11:12 AM)
check it out in swinburne kuching, lol

http://www.swinburne.edu.my/hr/salary-scale.htm

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That's pretty naise....No more allowance isn't it? that's the salary you'll get..
but i think salary for lecturers in public uni can achieve that figure when all the allowance comes in..



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TSyoboy
post May 10 2010, 06:47 PM

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This thread is very informative for me.. Thanks guys.. Sorry for the late reply..
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post May 10 2010, 06:53 PM

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sum up, that also if the universities got vacancy.

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post May 10 2010, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(0mars @ May 7 2010, 02:10 AM)
Nope! my dad is a.p., he tried to convince me to do my PhD and become a lecturer. So he gave me all those figures la tongue.gif haha

After going through my masters, I never wanna do research again.

But then again, each person is different. It might suit you perfectly.
Forget about the pay first and decide whether you would enjoy it. If you think you will, you have 6 years of being a student ahead of you. the "gaji" you mentioned should just consider allowance tongue.gif
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You did your masters? Good, exactly the kind of person I need advice from. Do you think it is possible for me to finish an engineering masters by research in less than 2 years? You're suggesting exactly what Im thinking. Im 22+ now, I dunno why im pressuring myself to work.. Maybe I should continue my masters and treat the 'gaji' as allowance.. That said, isit possible to work in a MNC and at the same time do masters by research from a university as part time?
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post May 10 2010, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(IluvProton @ May 10 2010, 06:53 PM)
sum up, that also if the universities got vacancy.
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I was saddened by the fact that my current university does not accept tutor applicants anymore. Tutor can earn 2.6k, and requires an undergraduate degree.. They only accept GRA (2k salary) from now onwards..
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post May 10 2010, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(yoboy @ May 10 2010, 01:58 PM)
I was saddened by the fact that my current university does not accept tutor applicants anymore. Tutor can earn 2.6k, and requires an undergraduate degree.. They only accept GRA (2k salary) from now onwards..
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remember good paid job never wait for workers. worker wait for them. so it your luck to get a good pay job. smile.gif

either way if you 22+ now, master took around 3 years+. If you grad around 25 + work expriences - your salary wise around 5k+ shouldn't be a problem. unless you got attitude problem biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Alexdino @ May 7 2010, 02:58 AM)
Now it is very difficult to apply for post of junior lecturer with only master degree sweat.gif

Junior lecturer (DS45) RM4.5k (all in) Min req = Master degree.

Senoir lecturer (DS51) RM6.5k (all in) Must have PhD.
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masters degree cant become lecturers at all nowadays. u'll only become a tutor.

DS45 requires a PhD. DS51 requires a substantial amount of research, publication and involvement in the industry.
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QUOTE(yoboy @ May 10 2010, 06:56 PM)
You did your masters? Good, exactly the kind of person I need advice from. Do you think it is possible for me to finish an engineering masters by research in less than 2 years? You're suggesting exactly what Im thinking. Im 22+ now, I dunno why im pressuring myself to work.. Maybe I should continue my masters and treat the 'gaji' as allowance.. That said, isit possible to work in a MNC and at the same time do masters by research from a university as part time?
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Yes it is possible, depends on how hardworking you are.

QUOTE(yoboy @ May 10 2010, 06:58 PM)
I was saddened by the fact that my current university does not accept tutor applicants anymore. Tutor can earn 2.6k, and requires an undergraduate degree.. They only accept GRA (2k salary) from now onwards..
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What about the assistant lecturer post?
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post May 10 2010, 07:23 PM

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Research funds, thats the jackpot yo.
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QUOTE(yoboy @ May 10 2010, 10:58 AM)
I was saddened by the fact that my current university does not accept tutor applicants anymore. Tutor can earn 2.6k, and requires an undergraduate degree.. They only accept GRA (2k salary) from now onwards..
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apply to other university laaa. aiseh.

the problem with tutor posts is that in order to offer them, the university must commit to support the tutor to do his PhD within 5 years of entry. which means if the university doesnt have a budget to support u for the next 5 years, they shouldnt offer a place to u, regardless how much they need u at that particular moment.

what u can do is to apply to a different university which has more budget allocations.

QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 10 2010, 11:19 AM)
Yes it is possible, depends on how hardworking you are.
What about the assistant lecturer post?
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assistant lecturer post is now known as tutor.
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college lecturer is 1 of easier way to get in smile.gif
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 10 2010, 07:25 PM)
apply to other university laaa. aiseh.

the problem with tutor posts is that in order to offer them, the university must commit to support the tutor to do his PhD within 5 years of entry. which means if the university doesnt have a budget to support u for the next 5 years, they shouldnt offer a place to u, regardless how much they need u at that particular moment.

what u can do is to apply to a different university which has more budget allocations.
assistant lecturer post is now known as tutor.
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Hi, i think he is refering to MMU. In MMU, tutor post is now known as assistant lecturer..the other way round, haha
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College lecturer only needs master and will be earning way lower than university lecturer right? ANyone got info?

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