if i use axe n i have 2 hearts,1 vanguard,1 boots of travell,blink dagger n 1 blade mail....will that be enough to kill the fighting machine ursa?cause if he uses overpower n ulti ..i activate the balde mail to deflect some dmg..would it be enough to ikill him?

u blade mail, he hex u u die also.

hmm nvr hear of ursa with hex b4..but anyway good point...

your item so many
i think that ursa also can GG u de

lol actually fight ursa u cant fight long

more hp u buy but no dmg the longer he can whack u he gain more dmg

if axe want win ursa u must kill him first b4 he kills u

dis is my item built suggestion to pawn ursa in 1v1 match

divine rapier ,divine rapier ,assault cuiras ,butterfly ,buritze,power thread,

saw someone do this b4

using cm
ghost scepter, arghanim, shiva

he blink in + clap
u use ghost, open ulti
after ulti finish, use skill 1 then freeze, atk + shiva
ursa GG

no vanguard?

seriously,i hv play dota for abt 4 yrs....
in 1v1 game,
i dont think axe will win over ursa.

the only hero that hv chance to win over this ursa is drow ranger/troll.

drow ranger..slow slow slow ..troll just buy mask of madness,burriza,butterfly,battlefury..open ulti...ursa life dissappear 1 .....1 hero i know can beat ursa that i used..my rhasta with scepter,cyclone,Necronomicon,BoT and 2 bracers....i ambush him with cyclone,trap him in ward,3rd skill him,2nd skill then 1st skill 2 finish it off ....b4 i get cyclone i usually just trap him in the ward when he stands still(trap him when he attack smtg cause thats the only time he stand still)..but when he ambush me...if i didnt hex him rly quick die lo.....

another 1 on 1 issues meh, sure kena interfere while battling 1on1
if ursa does full dmg upon axe opening blade mail, then yes axe stand a chance.
but if ursa got life steal, probably going to be difficult.

urm..
is it ursa so powerful..
never tried it before..
( stil newb and died alot.. hehe)

his attack are dangerous...imagine axes str plus extra dmg n 400% more attack speed..thats ursa...also he has a slow n ulti which kills....ppl usually use his ulti than 2nd skill in combo...dangerous man..the only ppl who can beat him head on is disablers...

This post has been edited by Kamikaze9393: May 20 2010, 01:00 PM

drow ranger can beat ursa? u gotta be kidding me.

1 vs 1..i think only troll can beat him

not rly in a 1-1 thing....it was 5v5 i had support from naiz....

of all answer this is the best
it's a tanker vs attacker issue... depends on item 1 would win 1 would lose. or draw (very hard to get draw= in this case both killed each other)

that happeend a few times..especially vs huskar,veno,viper

1 on 1?
try viper

i don't think axe can ever win over ursa...
especially 1 on 1...
axe counterhelix only work if got lot of ppl...
if 1 on 1 the probability for the skill to work really low..
i usually c ppl use ursa buy tanker item oso..
bcoz damage from ursa ulti depend on ursa hp..

ya i gave up to fight ursa with axe..just 2 hard..only chance is if ursa is noob ...but my favourtie way is using rhasta..due to the fact when i 1v1 or watever against ursa..he nvr gets a chance 2 hit me..when he is free to attack his probably has less than 400hp left ...fort lighting would take care of that

last time play,1 of my team use x vs ursa....x blink n open skill 1 + blade mail, dat ursa really got some pain....well its 5v5 though....

Ursa will outplay Axe easily with Vladmir equip....

get eul if want fight ursa...once cyclone everything gone...

ursa with basher and bkb. no contest

axe cant fight ursa..
when i play..
axe edi out 2 heart,1 vanguard,1 hood,power tread...
my ursa=vladmir,phase boot,vanguard,dagger,radiance

axe still cant kill ursa..

if u all wan kill ursa..
use range hero

or disabler like rhasta...i tested it b4..all ursa players nvr even get 2 touch me no matter how fat they are....

The higher armor Axe has, the more damage deduct from Ursa's Fury Swipes.

haha sure bor? really wanna 1v1 with u dy..

experienced player will dagger to ur back and kill u in 4secs.....haha

anything that has attack speed and bash-> all

fv,troll,sb and others that has passive or has cranium basher has a larger chance to permanently stun and kill ur opponent if it has the enough attack speed to trigger the bash.

Syllabear is the best, hyperstone->rabid->basher, entangle-bash-entangle-bash. Ur chances of getting a bash is higher than others as you are simulating two characters because of ur bear.

This post has been edited by ate: May 29 2010, 09:06 AM

Usra will definitely pwn Axe.
since you're talking about 1v1, so there won't be any interference.
so, Usra won't be getting disabled. that way, Usra will keep lifestealing and his damage will stack nonstop. nothing much Axe can do unless you destroy Usra's early game. =)

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Added on May 29, 2010, 12:53 pma decent Usra user will definitely get BKB against disablers. so, yeah.

This post has been edited by MopHead: May 29 2010, 12:53 PM

no use, bkb cannot counter berserker's call but it can counter damage from blademail cause it's magic damage, u open blademail he open bkb, blademail 3.5sec bkb at least 5sec. axe cannot counter a full item ursa unless that ursa is retarded.

axe can't go for damage, with his dps, no matter how many damage item u buy u'll still lose in term of damage to ursa. u'll only make him kill axe faster.
axe can have long hp and high def but it'll only help him last longer, can't win ursa still.
counter helix will feel like someone scratching his back to a full item ursa.
battle hunger is almost completely useless, useful only to stop ursa's regen if he buys HOT.
full item ursa may reach 4k. axe won't have chance to open his ulti. x)

it's only possible if that ursa is retarded. really =..='''

diffusal blade.

just disable ursa when 2nd skill n ulti is activated, ursa will be tamed

difussal acts as debuff for some buffs but it's only temporarily x)

Ursa get satanic X gg too.

hmmm what kalen dagger for.. ? GG la drow 3 hit only drow died in vain by ursa..

Try 1 v 1 b4 with urza using necro.....er.......sorry , forgot how 2 spell it correcty

Anyway , urza's built : 1 HOT , 1 vanguard , 1 offering , 1 dagger and phase
boot

necro's built : 1 HOT , 1 scepter , 1 blademail , guinsoo , BOT

The minute urza blink 2 attack , activate blademail and tank the damage while casting 1st skill 2 heal and damage him as well . . . After blademail finishes , hex him and keep spamin skill . . If u manage to lower his hp 2 half or least , 1 ulti and he is dead ..... Problem is if u cant activate your blademail fast enough , chances are , u r dead even if u can tank .... Good luck in trying

i found an easy hero to kill ursa..rhasta seems to be the best hero against tankers...i fight ursa,sb,axe n even troll warlord..they all feed me thx to all the disables n his ulti.....so rhasta is the best to fight ursa....when u c ursa or even if he blink 2 u..use cyclone put the snake ward when he gets trap in then shackle him..than after shackle hex lastly fork lighting...no matter if they have 4k hp they cant survive that....get a dagon to kill them cause any1 who go through that combo n survive probably has less than 500hp left so just dagon him,,,

ursa!! ursa 3rd skill orbeffect really imba!

ursa is quite imba..his tank n strong like str heroes even more tank than some str heroes n his also very fast cause his agi hero....so imba 1 ..FAST+TANK=imba hero .but ppl smart la..if they c an ursa in game always gb him 1..so he cant fat

but in the end ... all depends on the user .


if i use x and u have ursa, i will pawn u so badly u already quited the game

ya i guess.. 60% user 40% the hero..thats kinda how dota is....every hero has a weakness to other heroes...like X is ursa,troll warlord,spiritbreaker n centuar warchief while ursa's weakness are disablers like rhasta best example..

axe use dagon + ulti = gg

depends lvl 5 dagon gives 800dmg..for int n agi heroes after than much dmg x can instantly ulti them than gg..but for ppl like ursa,troll,butch n centuar their hp is like 3-5k+ with full item..dagon n ulti wont help u there

viper can beat ursa too...

Ya.. viper is corrosive skin is pain sia....
+ poison slow .. before ursa can come close.. already alot hp gone..

kill ursa so hard meh? use OD buy 1 shoes buy shiva, guinsoo, scepter, dagon 5, all int stuff! somemore got extra skill to stop ursa like shiva slow, guinsoo voodoo, when your MP high u hit ursa also pain like hell, last hit dagon 5, dun forget OD ulti with this all item with high int, ursa GG

lothar/blink and bkb tapao u liao

Have you try Phantom Lancer?
He only need this 3 items to make him imba
PL items: Power Trade, Diffusal Blade, Vladimir Offering
Ursa: full item (standard items for ursa)

Diffusal Blade burn ursa mana so he cant cast Overpower = no attack speed which make ursa imba + diffusal blade made PL illusion so frequently generate + purge when he realise he cant 1v1 fat PL and want to run away

More illu = more mana burn and damage by radiance(if u also have radiance)
Purge also can cancel ursa ulti....GG

This post has been edited by arlong: Jul 30 2010, 11:00 PM

troll has better chance. or maybe the lifestealer n PA

void / spiritbreaker oso cant fight him.

This post has been edited by Defloweralization: Jan 22 2011, 12:27 AM

no 1 mention bout naix. haiz

What about Spirit breaker?

AXE LAH!!!! hit hit hit and hit then ulti straight die!!

u need to rape Ursa . that the only way man

many hero cn counter ursa meh. try luna, axe, meepo and the best skeleton king.

luna,axe, meepo, u need ghost scepter/ blade mail.

sk, lifesteal is enough

guys, which free server do you play dota these days in malaysia?

this is quite a noob reply. in wat lvl that ursa will be getting a hex?

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Added on March 3, 2011, 4:23 pmwinners always need to kill the opponents before they get killed. common sense. not only axe v ursa-.-

This post has been edited by Cool Tech: Mar 3 2011, 04:23 PM

just use diffusual blade then ursa gg...

lanaya + diffusual = ursa gg

If lets say Ursa hits too fast and cant stop in time, i think your blademail will come in quite handy in that situation.

but diffusal has limit right???
rarely using that item

ya n nt all heroes can make full use of it..only heroes like pl,naga,potm,ck,riki etc ..can only use diffusal to max usage..nt like heroes such as axe,rhasta,visage or medusa make full use of its stats n mana burn...

lol
wan fight ursa need 1 disabler

diffusal blade can increase the chance of pl illusion?

Err please, just dumped your Vanguard off and focused on build armor item such as Assault's Cuirass or Shiva Guard.

Assault's Cuirass is good since Helix dealt physical damage. Shiva Guard if you really had hard time against physical attacker, since that AS slow may save you.

Yes, it is all based on the increased attack speed from bonus agility.

get blade armor, ursa's damage is purely attack damage, so if you have 2 heart, blade armor, boots, and whatever items of your preference, you can beat ursa.

blade mail + halberd + hex
use it repetitively ...

I think ursa wont dead juz becoz u open blademail..after ur blademail ends,u dead..he juz need a vampire..

late game sure is ursa win

i use bane i din see ursa is a problem...

Get a diffusal blade, ursa will be gg.com

10% of winning would be yours if against Ursa ( 1 vs 1)..

If you 1 vs 1 with ursa . Ursa just need a bkb ,sny , pthread and basher then axe gg

Axe can't beat Ursa if it's 1 on 1 (With equivalent levels, items & player skills). Anyway Dota is not for 1 on 1 la. It's all about teamwork.

From my experience, if the ursa is not noob, no chance at all....Ursa just too strong for Axe in 1 on 1. If ursa got lifesteal, give your axe 10 heart also cannot win because ursa life will not decrease at all after few strikes due to stackable effect.

Axe is a team fight hero while Ursa is good in solo kill. Normally I wont compare it. Axe is much useful in 5 vs 5 compared to ursa.