play until siao liao lol
my achievements going up like crazy. and LOL AT RANDOM AFFECTING INDIVIDUAL RACES

So like, how does the league system work? i lose and i get promoted? wat?

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This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 7 2010, 03:08 AM

ya so i will stop solo so i dont get kicked off LOL

btw IINM the record was 8-2. 5-0 placements, so 3-2 off placements and promoted? on a DEFEAT? sense, this does not make.

dunno lol. but ill miss my diamond XD

DO NOT WANT

>myface.jpg

i went to google image:



MIND IS BLOWN

wat? 3DPD DO NOT WANT.

blink yes. provided ur goin pure stalkers and not pushing for stargates/robotics. the screenshot where i got promoted to diamond? that was a pvt fast mech match. i lost cuz my blink was about 1 min or so late, and my expo got took out and got camped. lost a couple stalkers in vain in an attempt to defend my expo too. that said, he lost his main and all his production buildings. but the end result of him winning cuz i had my army wiped save a few void rays and hes sealed off my entrance for any probe escape.

anyways as you can see, hes obviously favored + much higher rated than i am, as i only lost 2 pts and the end score was dead close. could be a reason why i got promoted in a defeat, who knows.

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Added on June 8, 2010, 9:53 am4-5 gate ur blink will be slowed and you'll be f***ed during transition (dont even give me fast expo will solve it crap lol)

3 gate is maxed. to have enough resources for non-stop stalker pump AND get fast blink.

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Added on June 8, 2010, 9:54 ama lot of them are damn buggy lol. well, i was hooked with overrun, but lol its damn bugged too

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 8 2010, 09:54 AM

hard on resources honestly. and you're on a constant dillema on unit choices, by dillema, all of the choices are good ones, just hard to make on either one. rofl.

stalkers without blink would get hammered by tanks before they even close in, the sentry is almost useless minus the minor dmg reduction from shield generator, which, wouldnt be a factor from siege tank splashes.

immortals are definitely nice, however you gotta choose between immortal or blink as your gas definitely wont permit it. zealots are good (just to distract marine/rauder fire for ur stalkers to burn through the tanks) but thats only provided you got extra minerals, else ur gonna kill your stalker production. ur stalker count has to be at least on the same level or more than rauders as a rauder + marine volley = 1 stalker, worse when they got stim pack /sigh

simply put, the game i played was against a pretty well played terran with a damn fast mech push. still, i could've won against him however i went for voids instead of focusing on more stalkers + blink which could've easily gg'd him. my fault no doubt, though the point is that resources are incredibly limited when ur playing against a high lvl opponent. (how limited? i only managed to get out like 4 voids. and like 10+/- stalkers? in total. and my minerals NEVER PASS 300. gas even worse, max like 150-200 or so (per void))

tldr: if anything i've learned from the match ive had, voids = bad choice lol.

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Added on June 8, 2010, 4:59 pmshit weh i havent recorded down some of the notable replays and view protosc tourney replays

ugh maybe need to crack it or something to view? or just drag the replay file on sc2.exe? ><

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 8 2010, 04:59 PM

hahaohdesire.jpg

well ill give it a go when i got back, so ill post an update on any findings (or hopefully fraps )

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Added on June 8, 2010, 6:25 pmhence why i said stalker count have to be on the same level if not more than marauders. however things can be a little more laxed if you have a couple of immortals, then again, marines rape immortals its not even funny (giving the 250 mineral equals 5 marines count)

also, mixed synergy in overall sense has a disadvantage over focused on 1 type of unit, why? you need to micro more. and given the latency advantage, thats totally not a good thing at all. for example, your zealot have to be in a different group, sentry prolly can compensate with tabbings just for the sake of shield, then stalker blink micro, then immortal FF'ing tanks etc. all that, vs a simple stalker blink micro which i find MUCH MUCH more effective. surely, the first few volleys you'd be microing shit when ur stalkers are being 1 shotted before blink can even happen, however as the engagement progresses and the T player loses out a few units, micro will be very possible and thats when you regain momentum. and ur stalker count will definitely be more overwhelming as 1) you saved out from building robotics 2) you saved the gas from sentry which you can upgrade weapons dmg 3) lets not even mention void rays. shit takes so much min/gas /facepalm

btw, any decent terran player wont be "tricked" into a rauder heavy build, especially when he comsat that stargate (which he did on mine) all they would do is just slowpush with marines/rauder mixed and tank siege mode. it used to be MUCH easier to use voids to kill off tanks back then, however with -1 range nerf, marines can reach them VERY easily, and i can assure you, they'd sink your void faster than ur void being able to get a charge off. learned this the hard way too :/ then again LOLPROMOTED

DTs, well, too situation if you ask me, and would only work on the first 'surprise' element especially against a good terran. he would either have 1) scan (seriously, myself included, almost all good terrans only MULE the first 1-2 50 energy and the rest are all spam scans) 2) missle turret proxy/mech push 3) lol f*** ravens

as for your zealot part, yes DO BUILD 1-2 zealot. learned that the hard way against good zerg players /facepalm
HOWEVER. against a good terran thats reapering you, FORGET it. ur zealot would get gg'ed so hard its not even funny. you either have to trade your zealot, or your probe while waiting for stalker to come out. best bet if ur fighting terrans, opt to either get MAX 1 zealot, or skip it entirely in favor of a faster chrono'ed first stalker.

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Added on June 8, 2010, 6:34 pmits not that easy to scout when ur opponent is a walling terran lol. then again, theres the observer option, but do realize, if you want council > blink AND robotics, you gotta choose. and most of the time, said choices can go either way for your game.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 8 2010, 06:34 PM

oh wow sen was so defensive lol... "he brought in his a-game" <-- wwwwwwwww

gg TLO on unorthodoxness, that got countered by sen's 5 queen unorthodoxness. good match XD

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Added on June 8, 2010, 6:50 pmi prefer a 3 gate > blink pure stalkers as i dont have to commit to additional tech tree. game progresses much simpler too. that said, still mad at trying to void cheese on a terran which he, instead of a regular MMM, commited to a mech push

and i couldnt find that out early enough before laying out the star cuz my probe got gg'ed on the scout (lol lost temple, i went 2 bases and nada, by the time i got to him ady got couple marines readied)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 8 2010, 06:50 PM

aiyo, who said anything about blinking all of them at the same time? lol. never saw nazgul stalker micro? something like that

also, doesnt quite matter if you proxy ur stargate/dark shrine far when any decent terran will do what ive said lol. marine being the backbone of a terran and able to hit hair dont quite help either. scan is also well, the backbone of a terran as typical terrans will 13-15 ish orbital and thats damn early lol

and no, any good reaperer can out micro 1 zealot and 2 probes (lol), if he got speed upgrade, which is only, 50/50 after the buff, even a noob can do it >_<
takes a couple of volleys for a zealot to fall, and considering reaper's cheap cost, its totally not worth it at all.

as for zerg, lets just say if you cant take out his expo and he manages to survive AND go for mutalisks (mix up of either hydra and/or roach), you're pretty damn screwed lol. because at the end you're losing out on econ. unless you're terran and you mech his face off LOL which i will reply to that too in a bit

lol at the vid you link with sen vs prime hannibal.

i mean, hilarity from the Chinese commentators going on sc2 in Chinese terms (rofl "ji e sha muo" blistering sands) aside, sen lost a 200 pop game due to a mech push? and HAHAOHWOWTANKS BEING TANKS.

/inb4mechisundefeatableQQ

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Added on June 9, 2010, 2:50 amdun tell me you have 9 stalkers and ur gonna have ctrl 1-9 binded? what if you have more than 9 stalkers? :/
kinda common sense dei

and no one mentioned about going pure rays. thats the dumbest thing one can do. sure, you can prolly cheese some noobs under silver/gold or someshit, however id doubt it'd pass anything above gold/plat. you're confirmed to be scouted lol. and dont gimme the proxy stargate shit. if you dont have army sighted, people wont hesitate to just roll you over lol.
and note this keyword: "once charged"
in a heat of battle against a mech pushed stim pack researched marine, or even viking/turret proxy terran when he knows ur having rays, id really dare you to try lol.

thing is, you arent really forcing much when hes just right clicking + s lol. noobs maybe yeah, non noob reaper just lol at you trading (assuming your stalker comes out and KILLS his reaper(s) ) zealot and/or probe(s) for his reaper(s). with one simple fact: reaper move speed is just too fast compared to a zealot even without speed upgraded. now, if you're talking about zerglings, that'd be another story as zerg do have creep, and EVEN THEN, reaper could still win due to 1) zergling low hp 2) reaper's speed can still match zerglings on creep

heres the thing though with zerg fast expo, most, if not all maps have the natural expo/main placed conveniently for zerg to just place their spine in range of the entrance, using zerglings/queen to block. look at sen's helion counter LOL
then again, he pro so heh.

oh and mutas in most way > stalkers. why i say that? he got the freedom to resource harass you lol. stalkers need time to react/warp in. and dont forget that stupid glaive bounce lol. on a direct straight encounter, muta in equal number as stalkers is just slightly disadvantaged, which zerg can easily solve by mixing in roach/hydras, or hell, even zergling if he wanna commit more to mutas freeing gas usage

the main key is still zerg having econ advantage should you fail to take it out or at least cripple him enough so it wouldnt matter (killing his workers or force him to overcommit) which is hard to come by against good zergs

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 9 2010, 02:50 AM

out of all the recent replays, none of them work minus that hatchery>spine rush. i guess its fated that i show that replay ASAP LOL

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oh ya, drag the replay file on top of sc2.exe

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 9 2010, 11:05 AM

end task sc2. well, it worked for my spine rush replay. only 1 god damn replay, with the rest crashing after load oTL

holy shit lol.

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Added on June 9, 2010, 2:27 pmyour zealot pull back, he pew pew lo. LOL
"not that fast", but fast enough to have ur zealot meet his makers lol.
oh and if you surround with ur probe, he wins by econ disrupting you. his reaper served its purpose.

your impression of zerg is that they are all going to be overcommiting from your 10 gate harass and they will all go passive without even bothered to have overlord/zergling scouting to ward off any expansions. i mean, really, all the zerg players you play are like that? lol cuz i dont encounter them too often, maybe its this stupid league im placed in

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 9 2010, 02:27 PM

their stop/shoot is instant lol. body rotation also instant.

and i dont know, zerg having an early expo while ur just starting up one? what can they do about it? i dunno destroy it? lol.

he can roach, hydra. lol, even muta would be formidable even against stalkers

yeah very true, however you mentioned you going for expansion too, which means you're doing the same. get the picture? 350 min hatchery vs 400 min nexus dei.

what he said is correct though, and at the same time what you said is also true. its basically an "easier said than done" situation.