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devil86
post Jun 9 2010, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jun 9 2010, 03:59 PM)
haha thats y u need to adjust accordingly not to over feed them la...
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I think i wont over feed it la..coz she still thin even i feed her 100g per day..haha..

QUOTE(luffy4688 @ Jun 9 2010, 04:06 PM)
I don't know about you. But my dog is always hungry no matter how much I feed him. Lol.
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All pup wont feel full no matter how much u feed them...haha...
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post Jun 9 2010, 04:55 PM

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that is correct they will wallop anything u give if it is tasty... my cammy can eat 2 "Kai Yun" with carrot, potatoes and some rice at 1 go but after that she will be lazy and sleepy haha... he stomach is hard and solid smile.gif
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post Jun 9 2010, 09:31 PM

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Hi all. Sorry i haven't been keeping up with this thread. Had extreme lack of internet recently sad.gif.

From what i can see, everyone is doing well with food choices, please do start to analyse food on your own as that is the reason i spent so much time (really hours and hours) writing up the analysis' i have done so far, to help people learn how to see what is good/bad food for themselves. That way when you go into a pet shop/vet/whatever, you can instantly see what is good food for yoourself.

@Sherly- from the sound of it your dog has developed 'hot spots', this can be caused by a number of things. Food is one thing (but the foods you are feeding, it is unlikely). Hot spots can also be cause by allergies or contact with things that cause the skin to dry out. If you use strong cleaning products around the house (with bleach or a lot of chemicals in) see if changing this will help. Also a common cause of hot spots is bad shampoo (what shampoo do you currently use?).
Hopefully you can find the cause as 3 months old is quite young to develop hot spots already. If they get bad you can use a medicated wash (or ask your groomer to do it) to help clear them up while you find the cause. There are products and suppliments that can help keep skin issues in check (such as omega oils, primrose oil, colloidal silver treatments) however ifit turns out the problem is something simple like the shampoo you are using, it is much easier to remove the cause of the problem rather than try to counter act the symptoms.

As for treats, which i think was mentioned earlier. Giving some unhealthy treats can be a nice reward for your dog occasionally. There are also lots of "healthy" treats coming onto the market which aren't too bad. I like to give my dogs a mix of "healthy treats" and veggies for rewards and surprises. My favorite veg are Broccoli (an anti-carconagen), Carrot (not too much, tends to make soft poop), Celery and Sweet potato. Stay away from Mushrooms and Tomatos which can cause issues in large quantities.
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Hi everyone,

I have a problem here regarding dog food. my girl is currently taking eukanuba puppy food for small breed. she is 14 months now so i'm thinking of changing her food to adult ones since the puppy food is finishing. i went to the pet shop and the sales girl recommend me royal cannal for schnauzer or the other one is orijen. i'm from penang and the pet shops here are quite limited if compared to KL. so is there anyone from penang can recommend me the suitable food for my girl.

And i think because of the whether now she's having rashes on her skin. a bit here and there, mostly on the back. or maybe it's because of the food that i gave her. she seemed to be not interested with her dog food and my mum added in steam chicken to add the taste. she did not add in anything just steam the chicken itself only.

she too gets to eat a slice of apple everyday because every time i eat my apple she will look at me with the puss's eyes look.

thank you in advance for your kind and helpful suggestions and comments. please advice.

p/s: and yah, her poo stinks (now that i know it's because of eukanuba) and her pee too has strong ammonia smell and yet she drinks a lot of water.
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throw eukanuba away, it is junk food la... royal canine as well, get Orijen instead... maybe ur puppy is bored with the puppy food already kua, try to change different food and see mostly they will wallop all the kibbles very fast for the 1st few time...
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post Jun 10 2010, 10:05 AM

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my golden retriever puppy dont like orijen also. dont know what to feed him already...
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Which floor cleaner is safe for dogs? I have been using some kind of tablets given by pet shop. I drop 1 tablet into a bottle of water, it will bubble up and dilute. Then I spray it on floor to clean up, was told that it can remove urine smell.

Not sure if she is having hot spots, all I can see is there are some tiny spots which she scratched until it bleeded then dried up and I noticed she sheds a little, i found 1 tiny furball on the floor this morning. Checked her body, can't find any hairless spot yet.


The shampoo I used is hypoallergenic shampoo from Gold Medal Pets. Yesterday, I went to bought an oatmeal shampoo and bathe her, I think it made her feel better but still scratch her body, not as severe as before though.

michael9413, I bought her omega pills and started feeding her, will continue monitoring her with my fingers crossed. You are welcome to bring your dog to Penang to socialize. smile.gif

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QUOTE(kamwengng @ Jun 10 2010, 10:05 AM)
my golden retriever puppy dont like orijen also. dont know what to feed him already...
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QUOTE(sherly @ Jun 10 2010, 12:39 PM)
Which floor cleaner is safe for dogs? I have been using some kind of tablets given by pet shop. I drop 1 tablet into a bottle of water, it will bubble up and dilute. Then I spray it on floor to clean up, was told that it can remove urine smell.

Not sure if she is having hot spots, all I can see is there are some tiny spots which she scratched until it bleeded then dried up and I noticed she sheds a little, i found 1 tiny furball on the floor this morning. Checked her body, can't find any hairless spot yet.
The shampoo I used is hypoallergenic shampoo from Gold Medal Pets. Yesterday, I went to bought an oatmeal shampoo and bathe her, I think it made her feel better but still scratch her body, not as severe as before though.

michael9413, I bought her omega pills and started feeding her, will continue monitoring her with my fingers crossed. You are welcome to bring your dog to Penang to socialize.  smile.gif
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haha but my gf house do not welcome her coz her mother don like pets coz she don want any furs inside the house smile.gif so i duno where to put her if i come to PG...

the tiny fur ball maybe is cause by tangle i remove a quite some numbers until now coz weekly sure there will be some tangle here and there lo especially like my cammy with long furs at legs...

for urine smell u can try to look for Biscal a good biscuit to make their waste not smelly... but u need to look around as these is very hot item where stocks will be clear very fast after they arrive... just feed then one or half biscuit daily their waste will be smelliness...
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post Jun 10 2010, 03:23 PM

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Generally any mild or natural floor cleaner is fine (to play safe i always mop over a second time with just water). The best way i have found to take away pee or poo smells is to add some vinegar or lemon juice to my mop bucket. Using these clears the smell completely so your dog will not make a habit of peeing or pooing in the same spot (unless it is on a pee mat or newspaper etc).

It definitly sounds like hot spots, although the shampoo shouldn't have been the cause. Either way the Oatmeal should do her good. You can also use shampoos with aloe vera or tea tree oil (but make sure the tea tree oil is quite diluted as it can cause more damage to the skin in too high concentration).
If she has been scratching, this will cause some hair to loosen and drop (which is where the hair ball has come from), with just minor hot spots you won't see large bald patches unless she focuses all her itching/chewing attention on one area. Generally if it was tangles (or mats) it wouldn't fall off the coat so easily until you brushed as some of the coat in the tangle would still be attached to the body, keeping the rest of the tangle in the coat and not on the floor.

I have heard of the biscuits that make poo odorless, however personally i don't think i would use them. All poop from any animal is supposed to be smelly (of course if you feed a good food, or eat a balanced diet the smell will be minimal), so i would worry about what process is going on inside the intestines to stop it being so. Also i can't find any info on what it contains or how it works which puts me right off.
The best way (in my opinion) to stop having the pesky poop smell around the house is to feed a good quality food, train your dog to do his business in one (well ventilated) aera and clean up the poop as soon as you see it (which should be done anyway really).
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QUOTE(sherly @ Jun 2 2010, 08:05 PM)
guys, where can I find go! or now! in penang?

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You can get it at Wonderland II at Tanjong Tokong or Premium Kennel at Bukit Mertajam
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post Jun 10 2010, 04:07 PM

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I googled Biscal and found this site. It's a japanese product.
http://www.itempost.jp/detail/2/PA01017598/6859081

The ingredients (after translation):

Flour, sugar, margarine, whole eggs, skim milk, cereal extract effect, oligosaccharide Calcium, green tea polyphenols
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Well done. You are a far better 'googler' than i am lol.
As a once a day treat, the ingredients don't look bad (although i wouldn't give my dog something with sugar and milk in). But i still have no idea how it works. Looks like a normal cookie to me (at least the first 5 ingredients is exactly how i would make human cookies).

In short, looks ok but no idea how it works, i assume it is the green tea that reduces odors but i couldn't say for sure.
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jun 10 2010, 08:47 AM)
throw eukanuba away, it is junk food la... royal canine as well, get Orijen instead... maybe ur puppy is bored with the puppy food already kua, try to change different food and see mostly they will wallop all the kibbles very fast for the 1st few time...
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thank you for your advise. but then she seems fine with eukanuba puppy food that's why i didn't switch to other brands. If you are from penang, i go to KW aquarium as it is near my house and yah, they have chapalang brands and pro plan and eukanuba. just that recently i want to change to adult food for her and i go on the web and found out that people out there don't really trust eukanuba. However, this eukanuba was recommended by the breeder and like you say it's junk food then it must be expensive junk food lol. Well i will pay for expensive good food rather than junk food for my girl, that's why i'm asking around for opinions.

Anyone from penang can please tell me where can i get orijen or other good brands? as far as i know, CTY and KW they don't have it.



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try Orijen and Arcana... if don have then Artemis, Innova or some others... try to look at this website, this will give you more idea how good is ur dog food...
CTY also don have Orijen hmmm maybe u need to search for alternative then... look thru the list 6 or 5 or 4 star then try to search for those smile.gif


*KW is it the one near Chung Ling Air Itam???

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post Jun 11 2010, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Divas @ May 5 2010, 12:01 AM)
DON'T GO FOR BLACKWOOD... most of their ingredients lists start with Corn and Poultry By-products.. both very very bad ingedients. If you want something in that price range choose Health Foods.

The rest are ok. I would add Canidae and now! to that list. There are other good foods out there, just look at the ingredients.
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Please elaborate cos I have change to BLACKWOOD a long while back as advised by one of the pet shop owners.


Added on June 11, 2010, 9:27 amAny suggestion for good and healthy snacks. There are many on the shelf that does not indicate the ingredient. Are they safe?


Added on June 11, 2010, 9:31 amSorry, on dog food, two of my dogs are rather old and one is a dalmatian with sensitive skin.

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QUOTE(chubiboy @ Jun 11 2010, 09:14 AM)
Please elaborate cos I have change to BLACKWOOD a long while back as advised by one of the pet shop owners.


Added on June 11, 2010, 9:27 amAny suggestion for good and healthy snacks. There are many on the shelf that does not indicate the ingredient. Are they safe?


Added on June 11, 2010, 9:31 amSorry, on dog food, two of my dogs are rather old and one is a dalmatian with sensitive skin.
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Basically all varieties of Blackwood (with the exception of 7000, the catfish formula) contain very poor ingredients such as Poultry and Corn. If a food has second rate ingredients such as these, it is an indication of poor quality food. If you look through the thread I think there is a more complete look at Blackwood if you are interested.


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hi, can anyone give me a review/feedback on Regal?

does it mean that expensive brand means good food?
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not really click the link i given above you can read more about what is good and bad about their dog
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QUOTE(CyaNide27 @ Jun 11 2010, 12:14 PM)
hi, can anyone give me a review/feedback on Regal?

does it mean that expensive brand means good food?
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Corn is something not natural for dogs and cats to digest.
It is a widely used filler ingredient for most pet foods except the ultra premium brands.

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actually it is the best not to give them any grain at all, because they are not eating any naturally... means no rice, corn, oats and others also... it is not true to say like this "if you tell they cannot eat too many of meats or protein", y??? coz they are Carnivorous, yes they are coz their intestine is very short so that is the solid prove for it...

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