dont worry..  Avente 1.6 is 140HP.. can handle big RIM.. 

No u're wrong bro. It should be cheap, fast n good, pick 2.

Since hyundai is not fast, it better be cheap and good.

Else sdac can go fakoffsakballsbbqlanciaoeatshit

You'll be surprised how much difference additional 1/2 gear cogs make, Elantra will most likely get 6 speed gearbox across all range.

One of my customer wanted to test the Tucson 2.4 thinking that 2.0 underpowered, but I let him test drive the 2.0, after that straight away sign order.

CVT is not the 'holy grail' of gearbox technology. Sure you get infinite ratios, but at what reliability cost? There's reason why Honda stopped using the CVT gearbox just after one generation of City.

Last I heard, the dispute is close to being resolved, I am hoping that the Elantra is CKD model, it's not going to have major impact as far as I know all Hyundai's CKD models use fully imported parts. Just no AP and faster delivery

I am not going to comment on teana vs sonata. If you owned either you will hear soemthing in favor of the one you own. You are the first that I known to say teana out accelerate sonata because so far none of my sastified customer said otherwise. I will still respect your opinion however; this brings back memory of a customer that say her Vios is better than the Sonata. It is your hard earned money after all, I won't pour cold water onto you, I would be pissed too after spending money on something and people keep pouring wster over me.

I had a City iDSI that I drove for 5 yrs and clocked 180,000km on it. The CVT worked as wonderfully as it did when I drove that car off the showroom. There is a reason why more and more manufacturers are going with CVT as a means to improve fuel economy. Those days Toyota salesmen and owners used to make fun of the City because of the CVT, but lo and behold, the current Altis is on CVT. Teana, Sylphy, Murano etc are also on CVT now. Suzuki Kizashi is also either manual or CVT.

There is nothing wrong with CVT. Please go and tell every Chinaman salesman and ol school foreman that fact. Chinaman foremen are going out of style because they don't want to learn new things. What do they know aside from changing oil and brake pads? And please don't quote the latest City not having CVT as a good reason that CVT sucks, because the Insight has it too. And c'mon, used car bosses? What do they know about cars aside from how much they can sell them for? And what does the general market know about cars? You want to use these as your most reliable sources?

It's one thing to sing praises about a 6-sp gearbox, it's another to talk down about something you don't fully understand. And here's a fact that your training school never taught you. Having more forward ratios is to cater to the lack of torque of an engine. If an engine is powerful enough, it doesn't need that many ratios, i.e., if the power band of said engine is strong from low down, it doesn't need to operate within the tight confines of a narrow power band. Same thing with a CVT. So in essence, 6-sp and CVT are close cousins in terms of what they are trying to achieve.

As I said, I respect your opinion. When you mentioned something about X20 resales value, I already know there is no point to continue this 'debate' further, because however good the Korean gets, you'll never ever look up to them.

Such mindset will never ever change, no matter how much you earn, nor how easy you had that money.

Should've just ignored you from the start.
As I said before, while CVT holds many advantage to the CAT, it is not the holy grail of gearbox technology. 'Infinite ratio' marketed along the CVT technology is a bluff as well, since 99.99% of CVT we have seen are programmed to pre-determined ratio, that's why you get 'X-Speed CVT' in technical specification.

There is definitely something not right if CVT > CAT in every aspect and yet the likes of BMW/Volkwagen still developing cog based CAT for their cars. I am not saying nor had I say CVT is everything bad news vs the CAT, but CVT has limitation that CAT easily addresses, and vice versa.

Japanese car die hard really never dies around here eh, they're more active in non-japan thread than their own thread Discuss about Elantra can end up with Sonata vs Teana and a garage show-off

lol they said jap car resale value so good... 1.5 year my m2 lost 36K ... so whats the diff then korean car?

i was imprss with mazda when i buyin... but now i got many problems.. yes its a japanese car...

I'll explain it in my post later, to get back on topic.
The latest generation i30 is not even out in Europe(estimation 2012 Europe launching), it'll take a while more before it hits our shore. I am not too sure about i40, since we're expecting the '2' model to launch next year being Veloster and Accent.

i30 is a 5 door hatch, while the Elantra is a C-segment sedan.
As a salesman, it's my responsibility not only to inform customer as bolded, but to keep customer informed about our cars in every detail possible. I will let picture do the talking.



We know our rivals better than you think we do. This is all from my trainings I went through, omitted Sonata and i10's, left it in my office's shelves.

Only salesman with no standard harp about how good their cars' resale value is and couldn't even go into minute technical detail, and those who only worries about resales value are people who can't appreciate the true value of a car, which is the last kind of customer I would accept feedback from.

I'd be really busy if I listen to nonsense like Hyundai is a bunch of Japanese working in Korea, or Vios is more spacious than the Sonata. I think at this point I should just ignore you, like everyone else does. We salesman ignores and just smiles at customers who treats us with no respect, because however we say it, you won't buy it, they're getting the kick out of their sadistic behaviour of treating other people like dogs.

To those who is still bashing Sime Darby, I hope you all understand a few things. First, I am not working directly under Sime Darby, I am merely a sales consultant working with a dealer authorized by Sime Darby to sell Hyundai's products.

Secondly, the situation with Elantra now(As I know so far, might not be the latest 'news') :

- Hyundai Motoring Company(A.K.A. Hyundai Korea) wants Elantra MD to be CBU model.
- Sime Darby is fighting for CKD, HMC is not budging on it's stance, hence the lengthy delay and negotiations.

Why SD wants Elantra CKD? With the current AP quota, HSDM is having difficulties keeping up with demands for the Tucson and Sonata, waiting period for the most popular 2.0 high-spec(both model) is now at least 4 months. Elantra being a C-segment sedan, will sell as well if not better than the Sonata.

Now imagine this scenario, if say 200 Tucson + 200 Sonata per month has broke the limit point of the AP quota, causing delivery delay, can you imagine squeezing in 200 CBU Elantra into the picture?

So the questions now is :

- Are you willing to wait more than 4 months for a car that functions very well as a go-to-work-and-back-home car?
- Are you willing to put up with a higher price tag due to the imported tax?

This is the 2 things Sime Darby is trying to avoid from happening. They learnt the hard way when they confidently announced Elantra MD's launching month, not very wise if they're going to say things that aren't finalized again eh?

lol they said jap car resale value so good... 1.5 year my m2 lost 36K ... so whats the diff then korean car?

i was imprss with mazda when i buyin... but now i got many problems.. yes its a japanese car...

Not much news coming out lately, internal is keeping mum on the Elantra MD, guess they realized it's not a good idea to say something before it's solidly finalized.

Expectation is hopefully year end, or early of next year, within first quarter. They should be below 100k if they're CKD. Forte can be a good indicator of how Elantra will be priced. CBU might push the price up however, but will definitely maintain below our Japanese's competitors. We are definitely hoping for CKD to keep price competitive and avoid AP issues.