Now this sucks... I'm able to beat any class (there are a few hard one but it's still possible) 1 on 1 but a Hunter is near to impossible for me...

Usually when the duel starts I go into stealth, the Hunter will flare and set up traps around him, making me impossible to attack. This makes approaching a bit hard but still possible, I sprinted to him and opened with Cheap Shot -> Multilate til 4/5 CP -> Kidney Shot.

Now here's the tricky part, usually the Hunter will trinket out of my Kidney Shot and Nitro Boost away (my Sprint is used to approach) and summon bunch of snakes with his pet attacking me, causing a lot of slows/stuns. Now I'd trinket this but I'm kinda stuck at this part, what I can imagine doing is to approach the hunter and disarm him and aim for another Kidney Shot but I've already used up my Sprint, there's no other method to get near already and his pet with snakes will slow me down, Preparation is not worth mentioning here since it has 10 minutes CD, which wasn't even on for most of the time.

Worst come to worst, Rogue's strategy revolves around re-stealth which won't work with Mark of the Hunter...... crap.

The only chance I'd see is not to approach with Sprint and wait for the Hunter to get bored and come out from his heavily guarded castle... which will be a test of patience

This post has been edited by JustForFun: Apr 23 2010, 11:08 AM

you can always cloak the mark and restealth and have you tried to gouge the pet since its a big problem im guessing the pet is a crab?

ah crab...

it's a real pain getting pinned while the hunter is shooing afar...

actually thinking about it how the fk you cant win a huntard. all you need to do is blind at the right time and if he trinkets your kidneyshot you have a chance to blind his ass for 10 seconds much enough time i guess assuming your gear is not crappy to kill is little crab/pet...or you can even blind the pet and go for the master, and iv seen some people open on hunters with out any sprint required. of course they sap him near the end of his flare cool down make sure you have the increased range sap for it to work. then you can have a nice leisure opening.

This post has been edited by Jas2davir: Apr 23 2010, 02:27 PM

i thin u betta ask quaza

coz he can™

based on what you said:

- 2 sets of CD vs 2 sets, mainly 2x deterrance. PRAY HARD the hunter's noob and wont know how to flare himself and maintains it (during combat that is)
unless you both agreed to not used prep on both sides. for the sake of less typing, ill just assume you both did

- forget restealthing, he got a pet, mark, flare. too much effort

- improve sap outta flare is ur friend, ideally, do a countdown on flare, sap when its almsot over, then once you got ur sap, wait till flare is over, be quick on ur keys to sap pet > CS hunter or have a macro for it.
note: instantly blind pet 1 sec before sap breaks, dont wait till it does. cuz if the hunter is autocasting pin/charge, considering its AI based, you'll always be slower than it with latency considered

- open with CS, 1 mutilate = 5 combo (please get intiative or at least have enough crit to ensure 3cp mutis), kidneyshot after, if he trinkets, pay CLOSE ATTENTION if he instantly deterrance, if not, disarm him, else, aim for a vanish > cheapshot >and disarm when cheapshot is about to fade. if he does not trinket, you pretty much bagged the match as ur DP will be stacking for envenom spams. regardless, disarm when kidney is fading for good measure.

also, pop evasion regardless if the hunter is going to trinket ur kidney or not, high chance he would to prevent poison stackings, and having evasion up would increase ur chance to miss critical shots such as stings/concuss, mainly stings so you dont need to waste cloak if you want to vanish restealth later

- if he speed boots, you do the same, deadly throw if you need to, or vanish restealth (cancels off mark too, not flare though) into cheapshot

- when you see green trap is being laid (hunters can throw/lay traps now in front of ur face), save the energy for FOK, once snake spawns, FOK > cloak of shadows.

- a key to counter deterrance is cheapshot, if he does it, try to vanish RS > cheapshot into kidneys. if not, you'll have to tough it out with evasion. chances are if everything goes as i say, he will be doing deterrance disarmed/stunned/poisoned enough for you to shrug it off, and finish the kill.

- at this point ur cooldowns are spent, if you still get concuss/pin/frost or freezing or snake traps/disengaged, its pretty much over if the hunter's not retarded. thats why, prep. you got more cooldowns than he does on deterrance. trade vanish > deter. is the concept here

p/s: if you think hunter's hard, you should duel (lol duels) priest/druid healers, frost mages, protection/tanking specced plates (warr/dk/pala) or even feral bear tank druids, thats the true meaning of hopelessness.

and he just did™.

Hunters got their own problem also...

I am not familiar with rogue skill, but I got a hunter myself...

So just to let you know the desperate situation of hunter:
1, being disarm = no deterance, no attack
2, pet is dead = no master call, no ROS, and pet dies easily
3, too close = no arrow shooting.. = no skills can be use (except some crappy melee skill and wing clip or disengage)

So it's up to you on how you make these happen.

Hunter mark can be dispell with cloak, or vanish.


And I remember i read somewhere about this:
I remember i read somewhere that says if enemy (whoever, not limited to hunter) does not trinket to CS, then use the CP on damage skill. Not sure how true it is or how well would it work.

Goddamn rogues.

yesh, rogues are always hidden from the nerf light... and paladins always getting the punch...




can i haz gold?

Rogues like to hit druid cactus for self-acupuncture.

spec marksman and keep scoring cirts on his face and you shall have no problem with the rogue cos

I usually blind or use deadly throw on my target who is running away and vanish to reopen back