yeap, doing ab workouts won't get you any closer to having *visible* abs, before the layer of fats is gone unfortunately.

though, personally I find it's easy to maintain low bfat levels, once you've attained it.

EDIT: actually, hang on. I didn't read your above statement saying you have a "flat stomach" but no visible abs.
question, what is your height and weight at the moment? without looking at you in person, in most cases like yours i've noticed you need to put on some overall lean mass in order to attain more core muscles, thus making them more "visible"

This post has been edited by xGKx Phoenix: Aug 27 2012, 08:15 PM

Alright. If I were you, I'd focus on packing on more lean muscle first. I promise this is the best way to attain your dream (if I can call it that) of having a visible set of abs.

Personally, I only do ab specific exercises, 5 - 10mins after every other workout, ONLY when I'm cutting. Otherwise, I don't honestly see the point, unless of course you're looking at core strength and conditioning.

Good luck!

wait hang on... lol. I think you totally missed my point.

1. You will need to control your diet (this comes AFTER you have gained some decent size/muscle mass). Why? You will need to lose the fat deposits around your midsection (which usually/mostly comes after fat loss everywhere else). Which is what's refered to as "cutting" (eg. opposite of "bulking")

2. You don't need to "workout your abs like crazy", focus on compound exercises (eg. Squats/Deadlifts, Bench Presses/Pushups/Dips, Rows/Lat Pulldowns/Pullups) and follow a structured workout routine.

3. Eat enough calories to grow.

please read my post thoroughly again...

You will need to control your diet (this comes AFTER you have gained some decent size/muscle mass)

correct.

yeap, I know what you mean. sometimes I wanna kill my friend (who I'm struggling to assist, being miles away... lol). watching his facebook page with all kinds of greasy crap uploaded, then he says to me "cannot lose weight la..."... yeah, OK buddy