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post Dec 17 2013, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(Arrio @ Dec 2 2013, 01:31 PM)
On the left: exactly 2 years ago (92kg)

On the right: 7 moons later (62.5kg)

Since then I keep re-comp until today, added 6kg of mass, standing at 68.5kg now without CARDIO.

Note: 100% natural, no Lipo/Hydroxy not even pre-workouts.
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so bulking isn't necessary ? blush.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(Arrio @ Dec 17 2013, 05:01 PM)
You are most welcome.

Why bulk when you don't need? It's purely depends each individual's goal. If no goal, when to end?
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What if bulk with a set goal then cut?
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post Dec 18 2013, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(Arrio @ Dec 18 2013, 12:53 AM)
That's kinda norm. People tend to bulk cut bulk cut..Doesn't that a painful process? One must know what are the main criteria to look upon, what are the variance, intensity-volume game. Not just a simple goal, wanna add "8-10kg then cut 5-6kg" (just a saying but newbies good to know). A simply goal gets a simply results, time wasting, at times demoralizing. Hope someone catch it.
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I've done lots of reading, watching and learning. Yet most usually just tell people to eat at a controlled caloric surplus. Without the caloric surplus you body won't grow. I have a friend who's a stick back in highschool but he got big without going through the process of bulking. He told me that it's possible to stay lean through out and he did so without even counting calories.. but the golden question is HOW?

I would appreciate your feedback on this but I'm not gonna ask something to vague. So how do you recomp yourself from that body of 2 years back?

Do you cut down to an ideal BF% and maintain there?
Do you maintain with a slight surplus?
Or you basically just maintain with by eating nutrition dense food (clean) through out?

I, myself is currently in the process of cutting.
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post Dec 19 2013, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(manapergi @ Dec 18 2013, 11:34 PM)
me2 on calories deficit everyday to slash bodyfat in order to get 6 pack, but same time building muscle.

not sure whether it is counter productive but no idea how to be more effective  sweat.gif
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I don't think that it's possible to be on a caloric deficit diet and build muscle at the same time man. I've read that it's best to have a slight surplus, enough to enable muscle growth and not gain much fat at all. But what do i know...
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post Dec 31 2013, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(nick.woocs @ Dec 27 2013, 11:45 PM)
I think it's the basic. In the end it is still calories in vs calories out. Try not to overthink and keep it simple.
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Well that's what I thought too. Been eating at a deficit, plateaued already ?

77.7kg - 5 December
75.9kg - 8 December
74.7kg - 13 December
75.1kg - 14 December
75.4kg- 17 December
74.5kg- 20 December
74.3kg - 24 December
74.2kg - 26 December
74.3kg - 31 December
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post Jan 1 2014, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(nick.woocs @ Jan 1 2014, 12:33 AM)
U manage to drop 3.4kg in 1 month. It's a lot of improvement. Main thing is you want your bf% to drop, not weight.
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I understand that quite well man but I should be able to see that on the scale too..I'll give myself some more time before changing my plans..
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post Jan 13 2014, 12:01 AM

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hey guys, still cutting now, still fat. I did some calculations and hoping if you guys can comment on this.

1kg of fat is 7700 calories, so if I'm eating at a deficit of 200 calories per day, I'll be needing 38.5 days to lose 1kg right?
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post Jan 16 2014, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(akiratm @ Jan 15 2014, 11:35 AM)
eh.. what the point you ask this? it is not mean by 40days you surely lose 1kg of fat. many factors contribute on fat loss too. it can be water weight, muscles loss, etc...

just be slow and patience. result may come.  smile.gif
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I understood the factors and conditions that might impact the outcome, I'm just seeking for opinions. I'm on a slow deficit bro, 200 deficit is very slow and safe. Thanks man.

QUOTE(manapergi @ Jan 16 2014, 12:16 AM)
200 is too insignificant to see result, go bold and have min 1k calories deficit for weeks.

it doesn't mean that you totally don't eat, generally guys need 2.5k and girls need 2k calories a day, you can input 1.5k and same time workout to further burn few hundred calories everyday.
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I actually started at 77kg, I'm now at around 73.5kg. I wish my metabolism is that high, out of my months of experimenting, at best my maintenance is only at 1.8k-2k+/-.

I can't slap on a 1k deficit, my lifts will deteriorate greatly. As of now, I'm slowly losing weight while maintaining my lifts. Haven't hit a plateau yet, but hopefully I won't.

 

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