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Raive93
post Dec 23 2012, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Dec 23 2012, 01:43 PM)
hmm.. yes, some modellers do use compound for the clear parts but rarely for gundam. Usually air craft modeller will use compound on their cockpit window to make it smooth or get rid small scratches. Car modellers will need compound to make their car shining and "reflective". As for your case, i don't see why you need compound for clear parts.
I usually just leave them as it is OR unless i want to color the clear parts then i will use clear paints.

I can understand your situation as a student. So instead of piling up kits, save the $$ for air brush as kits will never go out of stock(unless limited). I've stop buying gundams for a year or so, buying more paints. tongue.gif

1. After snap fitting, it's up to you whether you wanna topcoat it or not. Top coat as i said is just to give a nice finishing(gloss, semi-gloss, flat) but if you plan to paint the same kit in the future then don't top coat it.

2. Primer/surfacers do in a bottle for air brush use. 1 bottle of primer can prime up to 4-5 MG or more and 1 bottle cost about RM15-20. thumbup.gif
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the compound is the restore the transparency of clear parts after sanded to remove the nip/nub marks.

or is there a cheap way to remove the nip/nub of parts/clear parts mark if I am not painting the kit yet?

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post Dec 23 2012, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Dec 23 2012, 03:14 PM)
alright...
yes, you are right...
usually i don't sand the transparent parts because they are a hassle. i just cut as clean as i could or just sand a little on the nib mark and hope it isn't obvious.

hmm... i would suggest you a japanese technique for newbies.
Get a dengeki hobby, any issue.. they usually promote the certain kit(new) for the magazine. they will paint the whole kit for the first few pages. the next few pages are intended for those who do not own air brush. some touch up tips and top coat to make the kit look good as if it was painted.
You should give it a go. Try searching on the web for such tips. smile.gif

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it would be better if you could find the kit you're doing on that issue
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ok thx for the tips, and some more question,

1. what is the difference between the ka. version and the normal one?
2. i have been wondering for a while but, what is the red highlighted part?

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post Dec 24 2012, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Dec 23 2012, 05:55 PM)
1. ver. ka means it's redesign or designed by Katoki(a japanese gundam designer)
2. the modeller highlighted the red parts because he wants to cut it off or sand it for modding purposes
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i see, so the ka vers. can be newer or older than the original one right?

more question,

1. should i use tamiya abrasive or nail buffer (4 faces) to sand the parts? Since i am will paint it later, so i wont sand the bub/nip till totally invisible, Although the nail buffer got more faces at cheaper price, however tamiya abrasive got 3 pieces, and nail buffer only got 1 face per grit. So it is more cost efficient on which one?

2. Since i am assembly the kit now, and will paint like after a few months, if next time i paint, do i still need to disassembly all the parts and paint one by one?

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post Dec 24 2012, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(shauno @ Dec 24 2012, 12:41 PM)
let's help out z3r0 abit..

1. if you want a cheaper option, go to hardware store and get these grits of sandpaper- 500, 1000 and 1500. and use in this order.
cut out part from runner> sand with 500 grit> sand with 1000 grit, sand with 1500 grit (optional if you are painting)
since you will prime before painting, it will be able to cover the scratches your 1000 grit sandpaper leave behind.

cost for hardware sandpaper is much cheaper than tamiya's

2. simply put, yes. doesn't matter you paint immediately, or paint 1 year later; still advisable to paint part by part.
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thx bro~

I know that hardware sandpaper are cheaper than tamiya's, but I sure that tamiya's are cheaper than those nail buffer.
On small parts, i normally leave a little nub then sand it with 600 grit, then use nail buffer to water sand it to make it smoother.
On larger parts, i ll clean the nub with design knives then sand with 600 grit and nail buffer too.

QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Dec 24 2012, 01:51 PM)
appreciate it bro. lol

If you plan to paint the kit, always pre-assemble. Make the parts looser so you can take out in the future.
Either making the hole slightly bigger OR cut the male peg 45 degrees. Test them whether they are still tight anot.
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i just finish building MG 00 Qant's body, so far it is still not that tight, so i didnt cut the peg, because most peg are small or short one

oh ya, one more thing for now

1. what about the stickers? If i am gonna paint the kit later then that means I cant apply any decal right? then what about the eyes?

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post Dec 25 2012, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Dec 24 2012, 10:23 PM)
you sure nail buffers are that expensive? you can easily find 1 with minimum 3 grits at less than Rm10, some even less than Rm5
if not can get from Daiso at Rm5

as for eyes, are you going to paint it?
if you are not going to paint it, of course you need to use sticker, or you want a clear part as eyes?
if you are going to paint it, why paint over a sticker?
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yes nail buffer is cheaper and got more grit, however each grit only got 1 face, if used then need to get new one. So, if is tamiya abrasive, at least it got 3 pieces
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post Dec 27 2012, 08:42 AM

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oh ya, anyone got MG 00 Qant, is it that the stand is only for the sword, but Qant cant attached to it?

EDIT : found how to attached

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post Jan 12 2013, 11:47 PM

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After all this time, i have decided to go for hand painting, since it is less pricey and my environment works better with hand painting instead with spraying. So, i would like to ask a few question about hand painting.

please correct me if i am wrong

1. I heard that lacquer is bad on ABS, so must prime before spray it and lacquer are bad for hand painting.

2. is enamel also harm plastic and require priming before painting?

3. my hobby shop here, i can only get gaia notes(lacquer), mr. hobby and tamiyas. For tamiya acrylic, i know that i can dilute with water, but mr. hobby's acrylics need thinner to dilute right?

4. I would like some shiny colours, but since the paint i can get here is limited, my only bet is tamiyas acrylic(not sure how many colours can i get here), so for tamiya acrylic metallic like colour, can i dilute it with water also?

that is all for now

thanks in advanced
Raive93
post Jan 13 2013, 10:24 AM

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hmmm, can i extract the paint from spray cans and use it on hand painting? Will it dry too fast? or the paint extracted will dry up a few months if kept? because majority people say that airbrush is more cost efficient in long run because spray cans(Tamiyas) are quite expensive and high wastage because spray cans covers a big area and thickness of it.

Please correct me if i am wrong

So, based on calculation, spray cans 100ml approx RM 26, with paint bottles 10ml approx RM 9. Even if the paint bottles is dilute with water or with thinner(extra cost). Aren't spray bottles more cost saving? Of course, provided that it wont straight dry up the moment i paint on the parts.

Thank you
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post Jan 13 2013, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:18 PM)
this is what i paint with industrial paint(Anchor) and Gaia Color
silver and gold do give you metal like paint look

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QUOTE(Noysan @ Jan 13 2013, 11:58 AM)

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So anchor paint is industrial and i can get it at any hardware shop right? and is that every anchor paint that shiny metal like?

And could you name some nice base colour from what brand that gives metal like shine? for example

- gold
- red
- blue
- grey etc

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post Jan 13 2013, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Noysan @ Jan 13 2013, 12:30 PM)

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Then do you prime the joint or do masking when applying lacquer, since lacquer will makes the abs brittle if apply lacquer paints on abs without priming.
And what is the mixing ratio for lacquer paint?

thank you.
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post Jan 13 2013, 05:00 PM

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For the bottle primer/surfacer, do i still need to thin it before use?

and for lacquer, if i use it for hand printing, do i thin it with thinner or retarder?
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post Jan 13 2013, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Noysan @ Jan 13 2013, 05:07 PM)

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i see, then i thin the primer/surfacer with water or thinner?

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post Jan 14 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Jan 14 2013, 09:41 AM)
Raive93,
Go check this website out, most of your questions can be answered here and some even with Video
http://gamerabaenre.com/?page_id=1202

I do understand you are starting this new hobby and you are curious about all of it so was i when i began.
I was told before without even trying yet asking too many questions might not help you. You need to experience it first to understand.
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yes, thank you for the link, it got many useful information in it.
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post Jan 14 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Jan 14 2013, 09:41 AM)
Raive93,
Go check this website out, most of your questions can be answered here and some even with Video
http://gamerabaenre.com/?page_id=1202

I do understand you are starting this new hobby and you are curious about all of it so was i when i began.
I was told before without even trying yet asking too many questions might not help you. You need to experience it first to understand.
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a few dummy question,

1. if i am using gaia notes paint(lacquer), then can i prime with gaia notes or mr. color's primer? Because lacquer is very bad on ABS right? then if the primer is lacquer based then will it harm the ABS too? or primer is special one?

2. I know the reason for painting gloss black before painting the metallic colour, but why need to paint a darker tone before painting the main coat? wont lighter colour harder to stick at darker colour?

3. and do you know that any other hobby shop around sabah kota kinabalu that sells tools & paints? I only know that there is one at star city but they sell limited paint(tamiya, gunze & gaia only)

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post Jan 17 2013, 02:46 AM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Jan 16 2013, 11:38 PM)
1. Gaia and Mr color are lacquer base. Both can be mix. Both primers can be used. Lacquer does not harm ABS, as far as i know enamel does. Enamel will weaken it and make it brittle. Primer does not harm any parts of your kit.
   And there I thought I read an article somewhere that it is the thinner used for lacquer paint that harm the ABS? HERE

2. i think this is for shading. Usually shading 1st layer is dark tone then only lighter tone to achieve the shading effect(AB only). If you use AB, lighter color can be covered over darker color if you spray it properly.
   So if I am planning to hand painting all then I shouldn't do the pre shading stuff?

3. Try Agent man in pain(forgot the proper nickname). He is from sarawak or sabah(forgot) OR order online from Tkting
    He is from Sabah, I knew his store, I am asking just in case for he didnt sell that type of paints or etc
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