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Xepz
post Apr 19 2010, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Apr 19 2010, 06:49 PM)
What is there to believe from those people?They have no facts, no figures, no reasonable theories,other than whole bunch of baseless claims. There isnt any scientific facts in all these doom days saying, other than claims to religion.

Can religion explain something in a logical manner? No,and i never seen one.

Tell me why this thread should be there,and also,what are the scientific facts related to 2012 end of the world?

NASA said no,it will not happen,same goes with other researchers or scientist. So,now,you rather listen to some baseless claims,than people who spend their lives studying it?

End of the world will happen because of global warming that is causing climate change, or some random meteorite suddenly collide with earth that could happen anytime.
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First of all, what is NASA? Did you know many ex Nazis were brought into NASA? Heard of Operation Paperclip?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

For me, NASA has done a lot of work, and.... also suppressed a lot of their findings... They only show you what they want you to see, can't be fully trusted at all.

Actually NASA did admit the risk of CME from the sun is high during the next few years. A big CME (Coronal Mass Ejection) can wipe out all electronic systems on earth.

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post Apr 19 2010, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Apr 19 2010, 09:57 PM)
Does it matter?

Or you are gonna bring some conspiracy theory in?
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No, it does not matter. But if you like believing in "official" stuff, please carry on.

I've NO problem with that. brows.gif

Right now, keep an eye on the volcano eruption in Iceland.

If this eruption carries on for a long time, Europe will be paralyzed, and that will lead to further economic trouble, and that is putting it mildly. Airlines are losing $200 million a day.






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post Apr 19 2010, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 19 2010, 10:09 PM)
right and that would cause doomsday.....
that wasn't even on the scale compared to this :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
and yet we are still here...
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Personally I do not believe in a doomsday myself.

But...and I just cannot help noticing. You see, I'm not supporting this doomsday theory, but there really is a lot of crazy stuff nowadays, even to the most nonchalant among us, it should be obvious.....

And not a few weeks goes by without something pretty crazy happening. It's getting to be even kinda "entertaining."

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post Apr 19 2010, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Apr 19 2010, 10:57 PM)
what believing in official stuff, anyone with even a little knowledge of space history know that Von Braun is a nazi, and how could you have know what nasa have and have not cover up from the public?

so what a volcano erupted the airline lose money will doomday come when some european economy go bankrupt??
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I am saying, I don't buy NASA's spin all the time. There are a lot of conflicting interests within the NASA organization.

Why I say I don't buy all the stuff NASA gives is because of their track record. Like they have explored the moon for 50 years and say there is no water there, but one small Indian probe "suddenly" found water there last year? How embarrassing. Or maybe they just didn't want to tell.....

Buzz Aldrin is now implying many times that there is "something" on Phobos, and it is very important that humans find out what is there, and funny thing is NASA has nothing to say about this at all? If you actually follow the real space news, Phobos is given top priority by the European Space Agency, but not NASA.... hmm.gif

http://www.wunderkabinett.co.uk/damndata/i...-on-Phobos.html

As for the volcano, yes, I believe IF the volcano keeps on erupting, it will damage the European economy, and possibly the world economy after that. There is no need to argue on this, you just observe how long this air travel freeze keeps up. Already a lot of airlines are jumping up and down. It's called the most serious air disruption in modern times. It's not just the European economy, few days ago Goldman Sachs has been charged with fraud, I don't know if that means anything, but they were considered untouchable before this. Will this open the door to more upheaval in the US economy? Who knows?

What does this have to do with us in Msia? Well, if the parent company back home is in big trouble, they retrench....I think there is no need to explain what comes next, and then what comes next and then what comes next. Everything is interlinked today. What happens in far away lands will affect us in good ole Malaysia one way or the other. Maybe not immediately, but it will.

Again, I don't believe in doomsday (as in DOOMSDAY), but I do think things will change in the near future. It's not whether you want to believe or not because nobody's asking anyone to believe anything or trying to convince anyone. I'm only stating what is happening right now. None of this is made up.

Too much crazy stuff last year, and now this year, alone. Swine flu, Norway Spiral...maybe the Pope will resign....even dropping crime rates worldwide...etc, etc, etc. Just getting too weird.

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post Apr 19 2010, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Apr 19 2010, 11:50 PM)
Thats right....who can believe Wigan scored 3 goals in the last 10 minutes yesterday to beat Arsenal 3-2??
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That is why I don't support Arsenal any more. wink.gif

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post Apr 20 2010, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Apr 20 2010, 04:54 PM)
The statistic is in the news since 1st Jan 2010....

Who is betting next month (May) to have another earthquake???  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Count my bet in.

I'm just getting my popcorn ready, and hoping Msia is so small and insignificant that most disasters will still miss Msia and be somewhere else. tongue.gif

For all you know, doomsday will be man made. IMO, the surest way to doomsday is war between Israel/US/UK vs Iran and her allies. If Russia and China get involved and nukes are used, then no need to discuss what will happen next. It is WW3.

Israel does not want any country in the region to have nuclear weapons. Iran wants nuclear weapons. This is the issue - The right to have nuclear weapons. Some countries think only they have the right to have nuclear weapons, others cannot have it...

US has been saying many times that the nuke card is on the table when it concerns Iran. Iran has warned many times of massive retaliation should it be attacked. God only knows what will happen.....

Even Malaysia has chosen sides already. http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...7993&sec=nation

Although other reports said Najib later denied this, but his recent spotlight in the US shows where Malaysia stands. So far there has been no war yet, because many leaders in the US refuse to attack Iran. Israel is the main one pushing for war.

What are the chances of this war happening anytime between now and 2012 or even later? So don't be too sure that the Mayans ran out of space on their calendar...maybe it will us blowing ourselves up in the end. cry.gif

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post Apr 21 2010, 11:43 PM

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Science has only to do with something measurable in 3D sense. Anything beyond this, science cannot measure.....

That does not mean "todays science" is the only thing to base our belief system on.

There are other "buried" types of science which many today do not know about.

Nikola Tesla's scientific theories were 100% workable and demonstrable, but the world sees nothing of them today. The guy was a genius.
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post Apr 22 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 22 2010, 12:08 AM)
measuring what reality has to offer is not enough? then what is needed? some evil spirit causing the world leaders to wage war??? rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  :stars

which of nikola tesla's theory do you mean? care to give an example ?many of his contribution in the field of electricity is used everyday...
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Care to do a search??

You have to search a little bit though. If you want to learn, you will. If not, you won't.
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post Apr 22 2010, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Apr 22 2010, 11:03 AM)
yes it work and every where in the world we are using AC for our electric supplies, Tesla beat edison on that. so what other buried science you are refering to?
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Let's just say Tesla was working on stuff that would have revolutionized the world, and IMO it would be a different world today.... if he had his way.

This place ain't the place to be talking such stuff, though. whistling.gif


 

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