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post Apr 19 2010, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 19 2010, 09:23 AM)
My heart says anyone but Man Utd. However, Liverpool fan or not, it would be stupid to suggest throwing the game against Chelsea when we still have Europe to fight for. People can belittle the Europa league all they want, after all it is a second tier competition but qualifying for it means more profit. One can make fun of the Carling Cup or Europa league but see if they celebrate when their team wins either of those trophies. More often than not, you'll find a group of hypocrites right there. We were made fun of when we won the "Mickey Mouse" treble under Houllier (we did win a total of 5 trophies in that season), but think back to see if winners of any of those competitions in subsequent years celebrated?
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ahaha after all ppl prefer bigger cups. but with torres out kind of hard right .. mebbe could be a blessing in disguise so other players could step up and be counted ... numerous time liverpool were better without torres
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post Apr 19 2010, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 19 2010, 09:31 AM)
i think why some of man utd fans saying that is because, as man utd fans like us, we do have some liverpool fans that say they will rather lose to deny man utd to win the title.

Yes, there are such fans, and when I heard it, i just  sigh...
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Like I said, if we had nothing to play for than I myself would jump on the ABU bandwagon, but we do. It's been said that Standard Chartered included a clause in the contract which determines the amount of sponsorship for next season. This in turn is directly related to whether or not we qualify for the Champions League which looks to be a forgone conclusion by now. I'm sure it includes a clause for now qualifying for Europe all-together. It's like I said before, some people just don't live in the real world or understand how it works.
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post Apr 19 2010, 10:07 AM

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true true the impact of qualifying for europe is huge! .... with just a slightest chance i dont think should give up eh. like arsenal are still mathematically in it
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QUOTE(whoopa @ Apr 19 2010, 10:00 AM)
ahaha after all ppl prefer bigger cups. but with torres out kind of hard right .. mebbe could be a blessing in disguise so other players could step up and be counted ... numerous time liverpool were better without torres
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I'd much rather be without Gerrard and Torres and I don't know if we were better without him. Against Birmingham, Rafa withrew him because he was "tired" and N'Gog who came in after spurned 2 clear chances to give us the lead. Just as how you lot seem to rely a lot on Rooney's superb form this season, or for the 2nd half of it anyway, we are rely heavily upon Torres for goals.
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post Apr 19 2010, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 19 2010, 09:23 AM)
My heart says anyone but Man Utd. However, Liverpool fan or not, it would be stupid to suggest throwing the game against Chelsea when we still have Europe to fight for. People can belittle the Europa league all they want, after all it is a second tier competition but qualifying for it means more profit. One can make fun of the Carling Cup or Europa league but see if they celebrate when their team wins either of those trophies. More often than not, you'll find a group of hypocrites right there. We were made fun of when we won the "Mickey Mouse" treble under Houllier (we did win a total of 5 trophies in that season), but think back to see if winners of any of those competitions in subsequent years celebrated?
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I do think that Europa League is better than none.
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post Apr 19 2010, 12:35 PM

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why are we talking about liverpool in this thread? they have an outside chance of getting 4th. we should focus on talks about tottenham and man city

unless we are also talking about the race for 6th since liverpool is eying to qualify for the secondary european competition

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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Apr 19 2010, 12:35 PM)
why are we talking about liverpool in this thread? they have an outside chance of getting 4th. we should focus on talks about tottenham and man city

unless we are also talking about the race for 6th since liverpool is eying to qualify for the secondary european competition
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Thank you for emphasising my point. If anything, Spurs have a big say, not us.
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post Apr 20 2010, 11:31 AM

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Hull - Villa

Apr 24
Manu - Totts
Arse - Citeh

Apr 25
Villa - Bham
Bley - Liv
Chels - Stoke

May 1
Citeh - Villa
Totts - Bton

May 2
Liv - Chels
Sund - Manu

May 3
Rovers - Arse

May 5
Citeh - Totts

May 9
Arse - Fham
Villa - Rovers
Bley - Totts
Chels - Wigan
Hull - Liv
Manu - Stoke
WHam - Citeh

hull, brummies, citeh, rovers ... villa can still make it ... plus, they have the easiest run in ... it's gonna be a fun few weeks
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post Apr 20 2010, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(spursfan @ Apr 20 2010, 11:31 AM)
Apr 21
Hull - Villa

Apr 24
Manu - Totts
Arse - Citeh

Apr 25
Villa - Bham
Bley - Liv
Chels - Stoke

May 1
Citeh - Villa
Totts - Bton

May 2
Liv - Chels
Sund - Manu

May 3
Rovers - Arse

May 5
Citeh - Totts

May 9
Arse - Fham
Villa - Rovers
Bley - Totts
Chels - Wigan
Hull - Liv
Manu - Stoke
WHam - Citeh

hull, brummies, citeh, rovers ... villa can still make it ... plus, they have the easiest run in ... it's gonna be a fun few weeks
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have you forgot about a certain team named arsenal? people said they have the easiest run in, remember?
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post Apr 20 2010, 06:43 PM

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mostly are talking abt liverpool cos they have the most outside chance also cos they were previously from the big 4 ma. talk abt spurs is like they win all nobody can chase them liaw like what is happening with chelsea. their fate is in their hands .. smile.gif
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Yes we do have an outside chance which is why I think posters suggesting we'd throw our game against Chelsea are nothing short of ignorant, especially when we aren't guaranteed a place in Europe yet. The long term future of the club matters more.
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Apr 20 2010, 06:19 PM)
have you forgot about a certain team named arsenal? people said they have the easiest run in, remember?
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race for fourth dude ... if arsenal wanna join in, i guess tottenham should go for race for third liao tongue.gif laugh.gif


QUOTE(whoopa @ Apr 20 2010, 06:43 PM)
mostly are talking abt liverpool cos they have the most outside chance also cos they were previously from the big 4 ma. talk abt spurs is like they win all nobody can chase them liaw like what is happening with chelsea. their fate is in their hands .. smile.gif
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we have 2 away matches at manchester ... hardest run in ...

btw, previously from the big 4 ... made me lol ...
liverpool is still a big club ... they are still a member of Sky4 ... it's like saying juventus is a small club coz they got relegated (the match fixing scandal) a few years ago ...
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MCity have the most hardest remaining match,i think spurs will take 4th.
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Apr 21 2010, 09:00 AM)
race for fourth dude ... if arsenal wanna join in, i guess tottenham should go for race for third liao tongue.gif laugh.gif
we have 2 away matches at manchester ... hardest run in ...

btw, previously from the big 4 ... made me lol ...
liverpool is still a big club ... they are still a member of Sky4 ... it's like saying juventus is a small club coz they got relegated (the match fixing scandal) a few years ago ...
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ahahan no disrespect but currently the table they are not in top4 ma hahaha . tongue.gif
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I can only hope Villa and Everton bite on Liverpool's arses and make it difficult for them, forcing them to need a result.

Believe it or not, I think it's destined to be Liverpool giftwrapping #19 for us. I'll remember that day with joy. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Apr 21 2010, 09:00 AM)
race for fourth dude ... if arsenal wanna join in, i guess tottenham should go for race for third liao tongue.gif laugh.gif
we have 2 away matches at manchester ... hardest run in ...

btw, previously from the big 4 ... made me lol ...
liverpool is still a big club ... they are still a member of Sky4 ... it's like saying juventus is a small club coz they got relegated (the match fixing scandal) a few years ago ...
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I was referring to arsenal's title race. There was a wankfest(by media) about them getting the title due to their easiest run in. Look what has happened. Those clubs at the bottom are much more dangerous..

Villa nick full points at Hull.

Team GP Pts
Spurs 34 64
City 34 62
Villa 35 61
L'pool 35 59

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