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post Aug 23 2010, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 23 2010, 07:36 AM)
According to Mr. Hojo that is the proper way to identify the quality of the tea. He said if you just swallow the tea you will not accurately identify the after taste which is the most important to determine the grade of tea ie RM30 and RM250 kind of tea. The same method of tasting can be applied to water, wine, etc

I doubt I will be doing that extreme whenever drinking tea, but would be good to learn how to properly do the tasting.

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There are many ways to identify quality of tea but I would be more interested to know how to determine whether that particular tea is suitable for aging. Maybe you can pose this question to Mr Hojo biggrin.gif

I have drunk liu bao tea stored here for more than 50 years and I must say it is better than some of the similar aged puer stored elsewhere.


Added on August 23, 2010, 10:39 am
QUOTE(Celest-Lee @ Aug 23 2010, 08:37 AM)
currently i just into tea. Randomly bought Lipton Green Tea at Giant. I drink it in the morning before breakfast and feel full whole day. LOL
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Full for whole day?? hmm.gif First time I encounter such statement tongue.gif

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post Aug 23 2010, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 23 2010, 10:58 AM)

He said people at China (ulu ulu ppl that makes tea) don't drink aged tea. He said after being there and interviewing them himself, he claimed that those ppl in china's town, hk, tw are the ones that goreng the concept of aging tea.

He said after taste will not change regardless new or old tea, and only the character (flavor / aroma) will change. Based on his standard, after taste should be what to hunt for and not strong flavor / aroma / old taste. He said you can easily find strong flavor / aroma even in new tea.

Regarding vacuum pack the pu erh, he said it is the best way to store in our weather condition based on his research. Mr. Hojo also offered (on my next visit) to let me taste an oolong which is sealed 7 years in a vacuum pack and he said it tasted amazing.
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Mr Hojo got it half right. Places like Kunming drinks raw Puer due to the weather there. There is no market for cooked or aged tea. Certain places in China do not drink Puer at all. Concept of aging tea is a very old tradition that is started out long time ago in HK.

As for aged taste, I suggest you purchase, drink them and then you can make up your mind whether it is worth to keep a tea for aging.

I have tasted oolong stored in a tin box for more than 20 years and it taste great. However, you should understand that oolong tea is semi fermented and also there are light and heavy roasted version. Vacuum pack may work for oolong but may not for puer.

There is 2 good english book on Puer tea by Mr Chan Kam Pong. It tells the history, types of puer, how to interpret the code (7542) etc. You can find them for sale on Purple Cane. Recommended. His blog http://www.cloudsteacollection.com/


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post Aug 25 2010, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Celest-Lee @ Aug 24 2010, 07:42 PM)
hehehe i know the taste but for health xD
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Why don't I suggest you try puer? The tea is the choice of Victoria Beckham to maintain her weight. tongue.gif
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post Aug 26 2010, 08:42 PM

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7572 is a famous ripe puer formula. The one I got is year 2006 with red ribbon!
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post Aug 26 2010, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 26 2010, 09:22 PM)
Is red ribbon more premium? How much you bought it?
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Not sure. I guess it meant for export to Taiwan or elsewhere. It taste good. I bought 1 basket (84 pieces). So special price for me biggrin.gif
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post Aug 26 2010, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 26 2010, 09:31 PM)
drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

That is real lot...
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If you can find good tea at good price, then buy in bulk. You can drink, exchange tea with friends or wait for price appreciate then sell. Anyway, the teashop import a few basket and all sold out.
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post Aug 30 2010, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 30 2010, 09:26 AM)
An old articles about the pu erh crisis

EMBARGO: In once-booming tea region, a bitter reality
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/as...30756.html?_r=1

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Those buying at the peak 2006-2007 paying 2-3 times more. After the price crash, you can find many cheap new tea. However, prices of aged tea never come down.
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post Aug 31 2010, 12:14 AM

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Drink 9 types of tea in one sitting is kinda too much. Normally, I taste 1-3 types and take sample for the rest. Sometimes I also buy 1 piece to sample at my home. If I identified the tea is good, I will buy in bulk. Identifying a good puer tea takes much experience. The only way is to read more, go to tea shop to sample and of course, learn from experienced tea master. Fortunately, many tea master in KL is willing to share information provided you asked the right questions.
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post Sep 4 2010, 12:55 AM

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LBZ is famous now because it is believe that the aged tea are mix with tea leaves from that area and now it turned to vintage tea. Harvest of LBZ is limited due to the small area size. Most LBZ tea cake on the market I believe just contains less than 10% LBZ material and the rest makes up with arbor tea leaves.

I have never even bought 1 LBZ tea cake due to the high price for a new tea. With the same price, I can get a 10 year old tea.
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post Sep 4 2010, 10:11 AM

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LBZ for RM10? Haha...I guess it is just BZ. Adding the L can makes a price difference. Serious connoisseur usually do not touch LBZ. At least, those experienced teamaster told me they themselves do not recommend it.
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post Sep 14 2010, 07:47 PM

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What makes you think this tea has been tampered?
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post Sep 17 2010, 10:29 AM

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I don't think it change the taste of tea. Rather it changes the taste of the water.

It is much better off to buy a good mineral water or collect spring water yourself. Copper teapot is useless if you do not have quality water to begin with.
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post Sep 17 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 17 2010, 10:46 AM)
Correct. I have recently found out a problem.

Whenever I am at the teashop the tea there always tasted better, but I couldn't get the same kick at home.

So I did an experiment. I brought along my water and my brewing equipments to the teashop. Upon testing, we concluded that the equipments seems fine, but the water is the problem. Side by side comparison showed that the tea brewed using my water is somehow less tasty/flavoring.

If you got budget, you can go to purple cane teashop and see how they stored the water.

One less expensive way is to stored your water in the porcelain jar for a couple of days. Buy bamboo charcoal and put in the water. The water will taste better this way.
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post Sep 17 2010, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 17 2010, 11:19 AM)
It is said that Spring Puerh is of the best quality compared to other seasons. But the question is how do you determine it is from Spring???

Here are some info I got from a tea seller:-

1) Spring Puerh does not carry bitterness. If it is bitter, it is not spring Puerh

2) The date printed on the packing of the Puerh does not necessary mean it is from Spring. The date is referred to packing date. This makes it even harder to identify  sad.gif

3) Packing of some small factories are totally ridiculous and non standardized. I have experience seeing Puerh of the exact same packing and dates but was told that the inner Puerh is of different season. Price range is so much different.

4) It has to come down to tasting the Puerh. Problem is, how are you sure by tasting it even with no bitterness it is Spring?

So what is your opinion? How do you select?
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After finish drinking, pour the tea leaves in a bowl. Now check how many tea bud can you find. Summer tea leaves are very coarse. If you find many broken tea leaves, this also shows poor quality of tea leaves.


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QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 17 2010, 09:30 PM)
Any idea where to buy bamboo charcoal in PJ/KL area?
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Last time I bought it from Popular Bookstore. Some supermarket also sell them. Just ask around.

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post Sep 20 2010, 01:30 AM

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You must be very lucky to sample aged tea. Usually, tea owner will not brew them unless they know you very well.

I have tried an early 80s 7542 cake and I must say there are still bitterness. Still can keep for aging. To really appreciate aged tea, it must at least be more than 30 years ++. Here, we are lucky that we can still buy and drink aged liu bao tea at affordable prices.
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post Sep 22 2010, 09:37 PM

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Many teamaster will not recommend their customer to consume young raw puer especially if it is from the bush plantation. This also true for Oolong and green tea. You just have to practise moderate drinking.

I know of a teamaster who do to his work nature, have to test numerous young raw puer and later got stomach complain. After that, he could only eat porridge for almost a week in order to heal.
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post Sep 28 2010, 10:14 PM

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6th infusion already diluted. Not really high quality tea leaves.

Get ready your bullets, the 6th Malaysia Puer tea fair is on Nov
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post Sep 30 2010, 09:55 PM

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I prefer Darjeeling when comes to ceylon tea
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post Oct 3 2010, 12:21 AM

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In the old days, there are no QS. So it is not surprised to get extra special gift in the cake.
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post Oct 3 2010, 09:46 AM

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I tot they are the same since it is packed in cans. Only in CH you can get it much cheaper from the shops

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