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 XCOM Enemies Within, Full Reveal on 21st of August

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post Sep 7 2012, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 7 2012, 09:01 AM)
game play will be 3rd person ish.. like masseffect type ? that would be awesome
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uhh...wat? the game is a turn-based strategy.

If I had to compare, the gameplay is a mix of Fire Emblem/Valkyria Chronicles --- isomatric view when you assign command, third person when in action.

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post Sep 12 2012, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Sep 12 2012, 08:19 PM)
Hmmm I think it would be really worth it to pre-order if you can also get the Civ 5 for free.

Still 1 month of pre-orders to go. Hopefully, can achieve target.
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You forgot TF2 hats. Those thing worth $$$ too.
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post Sep 25 2012, 02:58 PM

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I read that all the "underwhelming" points in demo--lack of contents, too easy etc has been countered by ppl who played the full game.

The only concern I have at the moments is the texture pop-in (the demo I saw on youtube hav the girl's eyebrow appear late, lol) and the mouse control.
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post Sep 26 2012, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(hakimix @ Sep 26 2012, 01:33 AM)
I still am not sure how much control do we have in the full game but based on the demo it is suffocatingly limited.
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From ppl who played the full game (reviewers), it's just in the demo.

The demo is aimed at ppl who never played an XCOM game before like me.
Personally, I think it's great.
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post Sep 29 2012, 07:41 AM

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Nice interactive trailer.

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post Oct 4 2012, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Oct 4 2012, 08:37 AM)
Edit: Hmm wait a minute, does the Civ 5 deal also include previous buyers of the game before they increased the prices?
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Yes...all pre-orders on GMG includes Civ5.
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post Oct 4 2012, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Oct 4 2012, 08:52 AM)
So how do we get this Civ 5? GMG going to send it to us in the form of activation code?
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I think so, yeah...you'll get an email and it'll be listed in your GMG games list.

nvm..can read here; http://blog.greenmangaming.com/2012/10/xco...on-v-bonus.html

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post Oct 4 2012, 02:21 PM

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Is there a story in XCOM? What I've seen so far has been about taking on missions, collect alien tech & base building/upgrades. Will there be an ending some sort?
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post Oct 4 2012, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(justnits @ Oct 4 2012, 02:56 PM)
the story line?

one day, alien invade earth. humanity goes %#!@.
x-com project is in charge to protect humanity.
you are x-com commander.
you save the earth.
declared hero.

x-com 2...read from the top pls. biggrin.gif
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Paper thin story eh? Well...that's disappointing.

Was hoping it at least have a real story like japanese SRPG games (fire emblems/FF tactics/valkyria chronicles etc).

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post Oct 4 2012, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Axalter @ Oct 4 2012, 10:16 PM)
X-COM narrative story classic wise only begins at the start and end. For the most part you craft your own story through the missions you perform including managing your squad, upgrading your squad, etc. etc.

On thing most fascinating about the X-COM series is that you can possibly capture live alien specimens instead of just mindlessly finding ways to kill them in order to study and understanding more about the invaders which in turn their own technologies and weapons against them.

The game plays more into titles like Jagged Alliance than Civilization series and to some extent Valkyria Chronicles.
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Yeah...I think I'm quite familiar with how the gameplay goes, played alot of SRPG myself since ps1 days and they all have main story.

It's just disappointing that there's none in this. I mean seriously the premise itself is great (alien invasion!!!), such a waste of potential IMO.
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post Oct 7 2012, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Oct 7 2012, 12:36 AM)
I just thank God the previous 2K XCOM remake is dead for now. FPS...  doh.gif
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Ppl hated the FPS game before they knew about Firaxis XCOM. Too bad they changed it into TPS.

I thought the FPS XCOM looks great though. The setting & atmosphere reeks of Bioshock wtf-ness.
And the gameplay of capturing alien tech was awesome.

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post Oct 7 2012, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Oct 7 2012, 12:55 AM)
I hated it the moment I saw it was FPS. If it was the same setting in turn based 3rd person, then I would have liked it. The have to use another name other than the XCOM franchise if they want to succeed with that FPS alien shooter. Because automatically most of the fans in the XCOM genre will hate the game from the get go. Which is why it is now not really being actively produced. If they rename it to something else, they would then avoid the hate it is getting online from the fans which turn off other potential customers. Perhaps then it can have a chance to succeed on it's own. But definitely not on XCOM name.
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You really should the gameplay man, it's not just a simple shooter.


Sory for off-topic. But hey, at least it kept the thread going. cool.gif
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post Oct 7 2012, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Oct 7 2012, 01:40 AM)
It was similar story when Bethesda made Fallout 3 1st person but they managed to convince the old fans by incorporating the VATS system, gore, conversation options, karma etc instead of making it an actual pure shooter. So the fans actually saw VATS system in gameplay and how the combat was and they were convince it was alright.
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And XCOM fps had base, capturing alien tech, controlling your squad and use their abilities/tech. And that was mentioned so far which AFAIK are the main elements in XCOM games.
Point is it's not just another Syndicate. Sad they're changing the game again though.

Btw...I'm pretty sure most old school Fallout fans hated Fallout 3.
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post Oct 11 2012, 10:44 AM

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I agree it's pretty similar. What's wrong with it? You guys said this XCOM is different than the old one.

/me ready to bail out if fanboys argument starts.

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post Oct 11 2012, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Oct 11 2012, 02:27 PM)
Are you playing on consoles? Cos I don't see how a top down point and click turn-based strategy copies from a 3rd person game, controlled by maneuvering each character with a gamepad, ala action game. Maybe you're playing on a console and don't know that the PC version is different? I dunno, I can only guess.

I did love VC, but the battles were decidedly scripted, and some missions were ridiculously silly. Ever ran your fastest character to the checkpoint in 2 turns, ignoring all manner of strategic thinking, just to get S rank for a mission? Cos that's what some missions required. VC was not so much a strategy game as it was a 'puzzle' game. Find the right combination of moves to make, and viola, rank S. XCOM has, as far as I can tell, randomly occuring missions taking place in all manner of locations, with AI instead of scripts determining how events play out.
Playing this new XCOM using a gamepad looks pretty good actually. Makes more sense with the UI compared to kb/m.

About VC, the second and third game are less scripted. Lots of random missions you can take.

Like how VC to you felt like a puzzle based (which is silly IMO), XCOM is more of a luck based.
Ppl have been saying how they've missed a shotgun in point blank range in XCOM. Seriously?

tl;dr
this new XCOM shared a similarity with VC. Just like how XCOM shares a similarity with Fire Emblems (perma-death in particular), FFT, Jean d'Arc, etc...They're all in the same genre.
I don't see anything wrong with it. rclxub.gif

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post Oct 11 2012, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 11 2012, 04:09 PM)
The new XCOM seemed to be a blend of Company of Heroes' cover system with some of the older XCOM features like permanent death, 2 layers of strategy and research tree. Along with some of the unnecessary complexity removed which is kinda sad.

I dont see whats wrong with it or any similarities with other turn based games. It is like saying Battlefield is the same as CoD, while the fact is, both game's mechanics are very very different.
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Cheese...does your XCOM from GMG still available?
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post Oct 11 2012, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 11 2012, 05:27 PM)
Unfortunately, i have used the key to preload the game.

I might get a copy of Special Edition and sell the key away.
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Nvm then. Seems that plenty of sellers in garage sale still have the copy with pre-order DLC.
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post Oct 11 2012, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 11 2012, 07:05 PM)
The copy im getting does also come with preorder DLC.
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How much? smile.gif
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post Oct 11 2012, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 11 2012, 08:16 PM)
How about 35USD? But there might be delays as i need to buy the game from the shop downstairs. Not sure are they selling it tomorrow.
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Alright. It's a deal.
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post Oct 11 2012, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 11 2012, 08:34 PM)
Alright, can you send the money to my Paypal?
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PM-ed.

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