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TSrevolter
post Apr 12 2010, 09:16 PM, updated 16y ago

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Guys, I need some help/tips/suggestion..
I'm trying to follow the stronglifts 5x5 routine.
however, there are no Power Rack at the gym. There are only Smith machine available there for squatting purpose.
In the stronglifts website already mention about how important to avoid using the machine.
Any of you have try follow the routine using the machine? Any tips to avoid injury if using this machine perhaps.

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post Apr 12 2010, 09:33 PM

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normal barbell got, but people are using it for the bench press..
also got barbell on the floor, but I dont know how to use it for squatting since there no rack for supporting it before lifting.
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post Apr 12 2010, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(ccm123 @ Apr 12 2010, 10:00 PM)
Mind if i ask, i thought power rack is smith machine? I tried googling the image but it seemed very similar to me..
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Smith machine makes your movement quite limited and a bit awkward. Their barbell already fix along the vertical movement.
Thats what im feel when im using this machine for squatting.
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post Apr 13 2010, 12:12 AM

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How is this fixed? Really easily, just do the free weight equivalent. If you are worried about getting pinned then you have two options. Work within a power rack in which you can set the bars to help you if you do get stuck, secondly, don't work till failure. As I have stated on numerous occassions you do not need to train to failure to have phenomenal success in the gym. In fact, many would benefit from not training to failure for the majority of their workouts.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/henkin6ttt.htm
Based on this, it does say not to train until failure. And stronglifts 5x5 also already not a routine until failure. Does it mean it still can work, just we need to find the right position (like the feet position)?
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post Apr 13 2010, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 13 2010, 02:20 AM)
What is the OP's goals? Size? Strength? Both? Which has the higher priority?
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Sorry to ask, but what is OP? tongue.gif
My goal right now is to lost my bear belly, doubel chin and man boob. Im aiming just to get a lean body since I have high BF.

Btw, I have search yesterday and got to see some video people have use Steinborn lift for the barbell on the floor to start the squatting. Since Im just started with very low weight, Im confident that I can practice using that style for my squatting. Anyone using that style now in their gym?
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post Apr 13 2010, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 13 2010, 03:20 PM)
If you want that, the 5 x 5 is not for you. Seriously.
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Is it because of my goal? Right now Im already losing 15kg (from 95kg to 80kg with 1.71m height). Still got that stubborn fat at my belly and a few places. Im planning to get rid of it and gain more muscles and strength. If 5x5 doesn't suit me, got any suggestion?

Btw, about barbell squatting. Anyone have done without the rack? What method did u use?
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post Apr 16 2010, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 13 2010, 11:18 PM)
Strength go for powerlifting. Size, train the way me, Kmaru and the bodybuilding guys do. Lots of volume,
reps, etc.
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Ok. Now my priority is my body size/shape. U are suggesting for me to train like BB guys. Go for lots of volume and reps.
This is my first experience to go for BB training.
Can I just adopting the Max-OT routine (the one that u posted) but changing it's number of reps, since the Max-OT use a positive failure and 4-6 reps per set?

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