given a choice between the olight and manker when shtf, the manker appears more robust. but strictly on appearance, not performance. and again, what i like about the manker is the mode spacing and stamina so obviously, not having access to any other flashlights, between the two, i'll grab my u12. but haven't had them for long enough to be sure.

curious... what are those details exactly? shorter barrel? nicer knurling? new charger? with the intro of v2, there would definitely be a price drop for the v1 and methinks that's bang for your buck. but curious to know what made you decide to stick with v2? i supposed if v1 and v2 were review samples than yeah, i'd probably keep the v2 myself. but if i were to consider having to purchase either, then i'd say i'd settle for v1.

ah, ok. yeah, i wouldn't be able to differentiate (or appreciate) its inner workings. kinda focused on their price/performance and hence the preference. and don't get me wrong, i do actually wonder why there are so many similar models since they're very similar performers. i would also choose the S30riii over the s2r. and i can see why u'd choose the s2rii... and i would too if their price were similar. otherwise i would consider whether the tech upgrade is worth the price difference. the sr1rii, for example, had a rm60 premium over the s1r turbo, and hence i considered the turbo good enough. gotto admit i'm not quite an aficionado

and the saying is so true. thus my t01 could very well be my best (realistically, may even need it to search for the u12!)

p.s. off topic but i succumbed to the dark side of 11.11 and got myself 3 more victorinoxs

This post has been edited by WingNut: Nov 11 2018, 03:04 AM

yeah, some pretty irresistible deals on 11.11. had some stuff in my cart that were going for 50% off and the pull was too great not to click on the checkout. no lights in the cart though so yeah, i kinda remained in the dark side in that respect. actually no, i had some stuff on wishlist but there weren't any special discounts so gave them a miss

not me. should be able to get below rm500, no? looks good but for that price, is it worth it?

there's an awkward sense of deja vu when it comes to my modest light collection. i used to have the problem of capturing light... i.e. what lens to bring along with me for my travels. through trial and error, the tamron 17-50 f/2.8 vc became my trusty companion of choice. problem solved. i've now created another headache... which light to bring along with me. either the i3e or t01 is always there with my keys... but i find myself alternating between the classy s1r turbo and rugged u12 as my primary illuminator (from my previous post, it depends on the type of travel... metro or country). so for now, i'm good. but everdying has also made me wonder... would a thrower be more useful in the great outdoors? i mean i see his point especially if you pair your throwers with a set of mo/binoculars. care to share what you guys use your throwers for?

This post has been edited by WingNut: Nov 16 2018, 05:10 PM

you light the path for them or so u can see them better? silap hari you shine down thought is girls, but then nothing there

don't mean those huge throwers. handheld will do. my eyesight no good... can't make out what's 200-300m away

at 300m... i can't even tell if it's a pak belang or babi rusa

err... 'pets' you gotto bela one. roaming spirits... don't think you would want to latch on to you. not easy to control

whoa... that's everdying's piece de resistance right there! he'll probably drop by radiant den later...





...and report back in here of his latest purchase

you found your ultimate thrower!

the manker is pretty compact, eh? but that glass breaker on your jetbeam looks pretty menacing!

i'm now toying with the idea of getting myself a u22 . so much for not being a thrower guy

strange... now that the s2r2 is available, the s2r1 seems to have vanished. i'm sure there were many still available before the s2r2 made its appearance

This post has been edited by WingNut: Nov 23 2018, 09:17 AM

these are the reasons why i'm holding back. if only i could get my hands on a reasonably priced mk41nw

yeah, i'm beginning to see the folly of my ways

officially, the s2r2 also retails at only $69.99 compared to the s2r1 at $72.95... so there goes my price argument

it sure is gonna be an exy christmas

ooh... nice pair!

This post has been edited by WingNut: Nov 26 2018, 05:00 PM

nice bling bling, and i must say, they're very attractive... but retailing at rm430, it's something i can easily pass. olight has however reaffirmed my personal view that they do make the most elegant lights



incidentally, had some time on my hand last night so did some random tests with my s1rt, u12(nw) and tn01(nw). the tint on the u12 is closer to the s1rt than it is to the tn01. yes, the tn01(nw) has a much stronger yellowish tint. the s1rt has a more even floody beam than the u12 but i guess it works for the u12 in the sense that you get a nice balance of flood and throw. had my hands full so wasn't able to take the comparison shots. will probably set my cam up on tripod when i have the time. must say i'm liking the u12 as my walkabout torch more and more.

This post has been edited by WingNut: Nov 27 2018, 04:04 PM

okay, so i got my cam on tripod and shot this for tint comparison (you can also make out the beam focus). they're not at equal lumens so ignore their brightness. clockwise from top: thrunite t01, olight s1r turbo and manker u12. distance from wall approx. 1 metre.



the unequal brightness between the manker u12 and olight does seem to have skewed the tint somewhat so here's a direct comparison with the olight's s1r turbo (right) at high. the beam on the olight is obviously much wider and very even whereas with the u12, there's a primary beam with some peripheral spill.



do note that the wall is off white and thus this is a very simplistic lay comparison. but the tints can be seen quite obviously in these pics. the thrunite is very much warmer. the manker casts a pretty good neutral white to my untrained eyes. and the olight... definitely cool white.

This post has been edited by WingNut: Nov 28 2018, 01:29 AM

yeah, i was quite surprised by thrunite's yellowish tint when i first had it. but i didn't actually put them all together until the day before. then it became very apparent. for a general purpose edc, it works just fine. not so good if you need it for product photography because of the yellow tint. i wouldn't recommend it anyway because of the single output. so yes, the u12 would be a better option in that sense. and i gotto say, although i am a fan of nw's, olight i3e has been my keychain edc light (it's noticeably shorter).

p.s. the white balance on the test shots were on auto, hence you see a difference in tint between the manker's u12 beams (cam probably picked up manker's dominant beam in the first shot for metering purposes, and the olight's dominant beam in the second shot).

This post has been edited by WingNut: Nov 28 2018, 12:37 PM

look what came in with the mail today

not exactly the throw torch i was aiming for, but a very close second and i actually prefer the styling on this compared to thrunite's catapult. anyway, since it's a thrower, decided to go with the cw instead of my preferred nw. will bring her out this weekend for some field test to see how she performs. wonder if she'll surprise a fisherman or two

This post has been edited by WingNut: Nov 28 2018, 04:14 PM

the grooves are the catch for when they screw on the switch assembly, perhaps?

p.s. when the tailcap is screwed on tight, the lanyard loop on the tailcap isn't perfectly aligned either

yeah, like that. the u22 is just slightly off... but still off. don't think aligning it will compromise the seal. but it's way off on my u12. anyway, as long as it doesn't affect the performance, i'm fine.
well, hands got itchy and had to pit the u22 with the u12 the moment i got home. don't think i will need to tell you which beam is which, and you can compare the tints also. anyway, hope none of my neighbours called the cops

some initial observations. i'm really liking the feel of the mankers in my hands. not sure how to describe it, but they just feel really solid with well balanced heft. don't get me wrong, i like my olight s1r turbo. i like it a lot for what it is... a pocket rocket, and versatile enough to clip on my visor if i do need to. but the mankers feel like a proper flashlight. kinda like if i needed to think what to use, then the manker u12 would be my automatic choice. but because of its portability, in all likelihood i would probably have my s1rt with me instead.

This post has been edited by WingNut: Nov 28 2018, 08:11 PM

yeah, not turbo. not even high. at 1m, high would've been a complete wash out. they were both on medium (u22 @ 250lm, u12@390lm). here's a combo pic for beam focus comparison (top pic l-r: s1rt vs u12; bottom pic u22 vs u12):

p.s. auto white balance messin' with the tints somewhat so just focus on the beams ya.

This post has been edited by WingNut: Nov 28 2018, 11:39 PM