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Philosophy Faith vs Reason
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kenmirzz
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 Apr 12 2010, 02:34 PM
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Reason always prevailed over faith. In fact, faith has caused enough trouble to humanity because it divides people into "Us" Vs "Them" mentality.
A person of faith may think this way, "My faith is correct, therefore I will go to paradise." "Other faith is wrong, they will be burn eternally in hell fire". That shows the illogicality of faith no matter from whichever angle you look at it.
"God" is not defined as some old guy up there overlooking at us, intervening into our daily affair. Rather, a scientific "God", the single principle underlying creation, the Law and Order of this universe that subjugate all scientific rules under it. If you follow the scientific rules, you will be safe. let me give you an analogy, we human has suffered from natural disasters for thousands of years. Did God played dice with us? No! We human invented scientific means to evade, predict and control the damage caused by natural disasters. In short, we progress and mature , exploring the scientific law to overcome natural disasters. Therefore, in modern nation such as Japan, they suffered a very minimal casualties as a result of earthquake because they are prepared to combat, resist and avoid the severity of the earthquake through the power of science. There are still many laws of science that yet to be discovered, this unchangeable rules can be categorized as "God".
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kenmirzz
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Apr 12 2010, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(frags @ Apr 12 2010, 02:40 PM) Can you count how many times scientists(Albert Einstein being one) have been misconstrued by the mainstream and the religious types as having accepted 'their' god. SO many times. It is perhaps for the best that they avoid the term god to not confuse those with a lesser understanding of what they(the scientists) are talking about. Recently, they spread a video in youtube about how Einstein's response to his atheistic teacher during his childhood. That video is so fake and it ended with a bogus statement like this: " Reinstating religious education in school". Some people exploited Einstein theistic belief to their own agenda. Einstein's theism or Deism has nothing to do with the conventional religions. His faith is in reason. This post has been edited by kenmirzz: Apr 12 2010, 02:59 PM |
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kenmirzz
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Apr 13 2010, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(rndm @ Apr 13 2010, 02:29 PM) What if one day all that we understand and perceive about reality turn out to be just delusion and joke even it make sense to us???? Don't stop , have faith that it wouldn't jUSt DO IT!!!  sorry, accidentally used my friend's ID while using his laptop Is that some idea from that Turkish creationist guy called Oktar? |
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kenmirzz
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Apr 13 2010, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Apr 13 2010, 03:14 PM) just how many frauds are there in archeology compare with legitimate finding? one in a hundred, on in thousand. and it is the archeology community themself that expose those fraud. because in science your finding in to be open to examination by other scientist. Those fraud findings were always part of some religious belief. Remember about the "discovery" of giant sized skeleton and the subsequent widespread of the findings throughout the Internet? It's because the mumbo jumbo of ancient human being big in size, later shrinking into the present size. Now, that's faith influencing science to make it agreeable with preconceived notion. |
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kenmirzz
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Apr 13 2010, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE I don't get you I was replying to Rndn post about everything is not real and could be illusion. That idea is propagated by creationist Adnan Oktar who seek to disprove evolutionary biology with his creationism crap. Well, his version of creationism though. This post has been edited by kenmirzz: Apr 13 2010, 06:17 PM |
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