The modern world is a place in which faith and reason are totally separate. Faith has its place, reason has its place. Schools are secularized, so are many hospitals. In short, faith and reason are seen as incompatible. It is believed that in order to individually excel, both need to go their separate way.

However, this view is very new. In the Middle Ages, this was not the case. While most view the Middle Ages as dark and chaotic, this was a period of intense illumination. The works of Aristotle and Muslim philosophers were rediscovered and spread in Europe. Universities first appeared during these times. Scholars wrote extensively on philosophy, science, theology, astronomy, and mathematics. Yet, we owe all this to the Islamic world, since they preserved this knowledge as Rome fell. We owe it to the Catholic Church, to who translated and copied this knowledge when the Islamic world declined.

Those people believed that faith and reason were, not only compatible, but senseless if separated. How can knowledge and values be separated? Are we now, after abandoning this world, living in a world in which people “know the price of everything, but the value of nothing?” (Oscar Wilde).

It hints, quatum prove nothing for now...U should start read more about Stephen Hawkins books.....Physics fall under the study of physical existence, but doesn't mean we can't get any hint from there. Science discovery is based on our hints, our intuition and of coz our willingness to approach new way of thinking. How can we know how big is the sun if we don't even take a closer look??

This post has been edited by communist892003: Apr 12 2010, 12:28 PM

Perhaps u should started to define your god here. God can be like an animal, human or even stone. If u suggested quantum proved nothing about God is an animal, then u probably right. Faith depends on where u wan to put

This post has been edited by communist892003: Apr 12 2010, 12:45 PM

I just hope life and this reality isn't a big joke, because i don't get it.

U can define God??? That is the funniest joke i ever heard today. Like u said, god transcend the mere physical existence, and science is our way to understand it. So if u could define god, perhaps god is fall under your intellectual knowledge and just another fact in reality.
So my point is, God is huge topic, bigger than it could fix inside your brain.

This post has been edited by communist892003: Apr 12 2010, 01:14 PM

Exactly, because most of the researcher know to think better than others religious people who consisted much of the population. However, this does not imply to cleverdick who is an atheist instead pioneer....

U should stop shooting people who wan to learn like BlazeHit....U are killing his enthusiastic of curiosity..I guess that is why religious people just hate us for this reason

This post has been edited by communist892003: Apr 13 2010, 04:14 PM

I cannot imagine this world consist of one religion. Is good to have more, so that we don't act according to what we think is right.

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Added on April 13, 2010, 4:24 pmI don't get you

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Added on April 13, 2010, 4:26 pmThis post has been edited by communist892003: Apr 13 2010, 04:26 PM

That is sarcasm that i wrote specifically to you. It would be better u read some metaphysics or epistemology. The fact that our eyes perceive that the land is flat , but does not implied that earth is flat. The fact that knowledge said whatever it said, doesn't mean it would be necessary be the truth.

This post has been edited by communist892003: Apr 13 2010, 09:59 PM

Human can be both. Either to manipulate or being manipulate. We are stupid compare to our humility. We are smart compare to other animals.