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post Apr 11 2010, 06:06 PM, updated 15y ago

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Samsung OMNIA Pro (B7610) - Versatile Power of Touch
A business device that is the perfect companion for balancing work and life

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You will appreciate the full range of Microsoft business tools and touch-enabled organizing capabilities. With touch-optimized calendar and memo function, your important contacts, events and ideas are always at the tip of your finger. Corporate push email support provides around the clock updated email.

The hybrid QWERTY and Touch layout allows easier data input and navigation. The advanced AMOLED display delivers stunningly brilliant image quality for viewing documents, photos, videos and more.

Samsung B7610 OmniaPRO at a glance:


* General: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS 900/2100 MHz, HSDPA 3.6Mbps
* Form factor: Full QWERTY side-slider (FOUR Roll)
* Dimensions: 112.6 x 57.8 x 16.2 mm, 159g
* Display: 3.5" 16M color (65K effective) resistive AMOLED touchscreen of WVGA resolution
* OS: Windows Mobile 6.5, TouchWiz 2.0 UI
* Memory: 2GB built-in storage, 256 MB RAM, hot-swappable microSD (up to 32GB)
* CPU: 800 MHz processor with dedicated graphics accelerator
* Camera: 5 megapixel auto-focus, with dual LED flash and VGA video at 30 fps
* Connectivity: Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.0 with A2DP, standard microUSB port, GPS receiver with A-GPS, TV out, 3.5mm standard audio jack
* Misc: Accelerometer for screen auto rotate and turn-to-mute, FM radio with RDS, DivX/XviD video support, work and leisure modes
* Battery: 1500mAh Li-Ion battery




USERs Please report in! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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12 Things You May Not Know About Samsung Omina Pro B7610adopted from CareAce.net
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Current Official ROM
Samsung Mobile Malaysia:
1.B7610NXXIL1
2. B7610NBGDXIL3 (updated 8/9/2010) PDA NXXIL1;Phone XXIL1
HOW TO CHECK:
1. Samsung Settings:ADvance setting>System> Version>Device. look at the pda part
2. in call menu type *#1234#



TWEAK AND TIPS
Basically all OMNIA II i800 Tweak is usable for this device:
Try at Modaco.
1. Modaco Omnia Pro B7610 Tweak and Tips Collection updated 10/10/10
2. MODACO's Omnia II: Tweaks, Flash Guide, Suggested Programs, FAQ, Tweaks (with Cabs), Flashing ROM Guide, Suggested Programs, FAQ
3. Some Useful cab in Modaco.com >Cab repository

4. Hidden Samsung Diotek PowerDic with multiple dictionary in ur My Storage hidden partition!
- I am not sure which version of ROM for our B7610 will have this, but at least it is present in mine, u can try,not harm.
- try use the cab file i attached, which is a shortcut link i taken from Omnia 2. flex.gif
powerdic.cab @freakshare

QUOTE(Chinese Input support )
Chinese Input support by Hardware Keyboard
I want to start a first experinces tweak for chinese input and hadware support for chinese input!

this is My tutorial:
1. Look at you Setting>System> Regional Setting
2 .try look got any Chinese support inside or not.
3. if not, u need this file: Chs support freakshare.net@B7610CHSSupport_WM65.CAB.html
4. after install, soft reset.
5. go to regional setting choose any Chinese, I use Chinese PRC
6. after that use this:
baidu chinese input for B7610 | freakshare.net@BaiduInput_B7610.CAB (previously was PlumSIP, 点讯梅花) and it is free
7. after that restart, and enjoy~

Feature of this B7610 input.
1. Enable HardKeyboard Chinese and english input.
2, swicth between hardware chinese or english input by clicking on W&L key. drool.gif

Any other problem, feel free to ask me rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(USER LIST)
USERS of PRO:
1. fense - with 8gb microsd
2. gambateh
3. gck
4. herofire86
5. tester1979
6. whyhon


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post Apr 15 2010, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(swgiant @ Apr 12 2010, 12:07 AM)
how much for the price that you have surveyed?

I am in dilemma between E72 and b7610. From the specs, the touch screen type is resistive, which same as nokia 5800. And i tried my friend's 5800, the responsive on touch screen is totally a sluggish!

How about b7610?
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Sorry for late reply ya..
I am testing on it recently.
Actually B7610 touch screen is consider great if among restitive touch screen. NOT to compare with iphone. blush.gif

E72 and B7610 is totally different System.
Depend on your experiences and your need.
I am a windows Mobile user for years, already used to it.
Compare to Symbain, WM is a bit more customiable and complicated. If u use phoen just for entertainment and phoen purpose i think Symbian is better.
Most WM user like to play with the phone with lot of crazy and incredible progeam.hehe

for speed . I think it will be equally same for both device if u set it properly.
QUOTE(yquin1985 @ Apr 12 2010, 07:27 PM)
how much is this phone and when it be launch??
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This phone release on September 2009 in US and is already available in market for one or two month in Malaysia, but i think It havent been officially launch in Malaysia.
Currently for New ORiginal LOcal set is aroung RM1.7k+ in south Malaysia. North and KL, i not sure.

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post Apr 16 2010, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(swgiant @ Apr 16 2010, 11:01 PM)
hope samsung mobile's price (b7610) will be dropped rapidly.. about 1200 - 1300.. hahaha!
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if u can wait, sure the price will drop. actually u also can get a second hand piece which they used few day only. still with warranty, try search in garade sales area. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(enCORe @ Apr 15 2010, 05:11 PM)
Omnia Pro was RM50 just than Omnia 2, last check in garage sales (Ori set)
Omnia 2 = RM1650
Omnia Pro (aka 7610) = RM1700

Omnia pro has more advantage due qwerty slider, specs almost similar but the internal storage rom is  1GB, but the main drawback these model has smaller RAM compare to HTC

I think Samsung price is more reasonable than overprice HTC,
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Agree also, compare HTC, samsung PDA price is acceptable base on it function.

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QUOTE(swgiant @ Apr 19 2010, 10:31 PM)
for the same class of B7610, HTC is more expensive than Samsung as mostly due to the touch screen technology, capacitive touch screen.

Eg. HTC HD2. Capacitive believes better and more prone to iphone-sensitivity of touch screen. But higher cost to implement it.


Added on April 20, 2010, 9:28 pmseems like b7610 has only a small committee at forum.lowyat.net. Does it that bad, huh?
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ya. see, like this phone no have good market value comapre to Omnia i900 and Omnia II i8000. And it is not release world wide... blink.gif
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post Apr 25 2010, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Apr 23 2010, 07:15 PM)
guys.. would like to know the loudspeaker quality and LOUDNESS of this phone ONCE you have tweak the volume.. is it comparable with 5800? im torn between this model and n900.. money is not a factor.. sighhh.. which one arrr...  unsure.gif
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I think it is still ok. But OMNIA PRO got special Headphone management which really impress me.

This phone consider too new in Malaysia, because not even able to find it accessories in Lowyat plaza..


Added on April 25, 2010, 9:19 pm
QUOTE(gambateh @ Apr 23 2010, 02:43 PM)
maybe it stil new?
i m using... i think is quite good for me
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finally i meet some user here. hehe
I add to to user list.haha

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post May 5 2010, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(swgiant @ May 5 2010, 06:42 AM)
B7610 been sold how much at digitalmall? then, have you scrutinized the sensitivity of touch screen?
From youtube, the OS seems quite laggy and i understood that, those OS were initial version. but how about the subsequent updates? Does OS is getting improved?
How does it feel?
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ya, personally i still waiting for update, because tit is too laggy compare to my previous i900.

I called SME several time.. but they still dint give me an answer about newer ROM.

My current ROM is:
PDA: B7610NXXIK4
CSC:B7610NXMEIK5
Phone: B7610XXIK1

As u can see from the ROM end with IK, "I" mean (2009) 9th alphabet. and K stand for November (11th alphabet).
I bought this device at MArch2010.

Just now call them , they said need ask technician first, something like H3 is their version?? H?? August?lolx
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QUOTE(gambateh @ May 5 2010, 04:58 PM)
Mine same version as urs  whistling.gif
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they call me back just now, said got a newr version IL something...
will go service center for check out.


Added on May 5, 2010, 11:31 pm
QUOTE(swgiant @ May 5 2010, 06:58 PM)
i thought you can get the customized of ROM from other webs.


Added on May 5, 2010, 7:12 pmIs there any meaning for the short name for PDA, CSC & Phone? Then, what is the main item that i should look for the firmware version ?

PDA: B7610NXXIK4
CSC:B7610NXMEIK5
Phone: B7610XXIK1
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Customed ROm will spoiled your warranty. If u still under warranty better not to try use custom ROM.
BTW, Custom sure will have better speed. but not official, no warranty..

Three part of ROM. noramally:
PDA as it name, was the rom version for it PDA part, which for most Samsung program is in this part
, and WM version also intergrated into this part.

CSC: is something like certificate, if not mistaken. XME at miiddle means Samsung Mobile Electronic, means is genuine Samsung Malaysia set.this part in a custom ROm normally only eat up a small space.

Phone part is similiar as radio verion in HTC device, mean it main purpose to improve your GSM/3G/H/E functionality. normally custom ROM dun have this part, because any problem in this part will cause your OMNIA can;t use as a phone anymore.

Currently in USA, this device already had lastest update last week. with version of JC2 (2010 March) source (XXJC2

I am hoping Samsung officially release WM6.5.x for this device. Best build i tested is 235xx build. start bar at buttom and scrolling experience in menu is very smooth. for who can try custom ROM suggest try this build.
Custom ROM with JC2 ROM WM build 23566 in modaco

currently OFFICIALLY it still use WM6.5 build 21868 which start bar still at above,,, blink.gif blink.gif

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QUOTE(swgiant @ May 6 2010, 12:27 AM)
Thanks fense.
It seems like another Desktop PC/laptop OS.
Worse comes to worst, just format or flash the PDA section.
Dun think flash the PDA section will spoil the phone, unless CSC or phone been touched.

am I wrong?
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yup, u are right.
most custom ROM come with CSC, but not really changed.

inside PDA part, it divided into several part, which most important is eboot, if eboot was put in untouch, normally ur pda wont die.
using custom ROm still have it risk while flashing, depend on luck.some device will stuck. been one omniai900 user, his pda burn when flashing...that is etreme bad luck.haha

so that, a trusted COOK is more important.make sure he put all necessary ingredient inside.

actually I been wonder, why so many leak ROM every week, i think is microsoft ppl purposely release it for user to try wihout bear any responsibility. dun believe their sevurity so bad, every week will steal by ppl. haha
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QUOTE(swgiant @ May 6 2010, 07:53 AM)
I see...
So normally you guys will read the string of PDA: B7610NXXIK4 to determine the phone is having the latest stable of WM? eg. v6.5.3?
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hmm...it not correct.
PDA: is just contain for official realease, mostly is newer driver or some other stuff
PDA,CSC,PHONE all three together is device ROM version

for windows mobile version is in other part..
it base on build.
currently

QUOTE
COM BRANCHES

COM1- Builds 217**:

COM2 - Builds 218**: GUI is 1st stage of finger friendly features implemented. This is the only official WM6.5 released to public. All other COM* Builds are leaked test builds (not even classified as alpha or beta). In this range, the GUI introduces softer corners to various dialogs, the new start menu (Very early builds had a honeycomb theme but although the hexagons have been removed, the icon alignments remain), and the taskbar and menubar have been slightly modified to allow for further skinning.

COM3 - Builds 230**: GUI from 23001 to 23021 looks the same as COM2. 23022+ introduced the new shorter/expanding taskbar and finger friendly text-based buttons on taller bottom menubar and ever since its been called wm6.5.1 rather than 6.5..
23047+ introduced icon-based buttons.. New checkboxes and scroll bars and recently (from 23069 i think) a magnifier in the taskbar are amongst the newer gui elements introduced in the latest builds..
At some point (im not sure when, kinetic scrolling was introduced..
It appears that COM4 elements are being introduced into this branch such as the new contact application, a slightly modified sms application, and possibly a slightly modified calender application..

COM4 - Builds 234**: Seems to have stopped at 23420. The newer contact application and possibly the modified sms and calender applications were first introduced in this branch but have since been incorporated into latest builds of COM3

COM5 - Builds 235**: At the moment little is known of this branch. 23502 is the first build leaked that Im aware of. It seems to have been compiled at about the same time as 23060 but with superior stability, speed, memory management, Newer COM3 builds 23071 and above have been reported to be superior in terms of stability and speed. However the latest COM5 23506 compared to COM3 23088 (build date is identical) seem equally fast and stable. COM5 builds have the new Contact app and Magnifier, as in latest COM3 Builds, but lack kinetic scrolling.
Apparently, the new internet explorer has been modified as well (but Bikertibi Builds have the old internet explorer from wm6.1 because new one does not handle well on our device)

Other branches you might or might not come to see:

AKU1 - Builds 212**
SAM1 - Builds 215**
MD1 - Builds 219**
WMD - Builds 28***: The First Build leaked is 28002 (build date 17th November 2009). As of this branch Windows Mobile is at WM6.5.3. This branch is to continue from COM3 23090 and is believed to carry improvements to the New Internet Explorer Mobile as well as overall speed

Builds 216**: leaked builds that have been played with by the team over at HTC but not officially used on any handset as yet
Builds 236**: LG Core Multi Platform Build..continue dev... most builds are fast n stable (improvement starting from 23618)


Big thanks to dragonmatahari for this info wink.gif !!!!
Windows Mobile 6.1

Windows Mobile 6.1 was announced April 1, 2008. It is a minor upgrade to the existing Windows Mobile 6 platform which brings with it various performance enhancements,
a redesigned Home screen featuring horizontal tiles that expand on clicking to display more information, although this new home screen is featured only on Windows Mobile Standard edition.
This feature was inexplicably left out of the Professional edition.

Several other changes such as threaded SMS, full page zooming in Internet Explorer and 'Domain Enroll' have also been added, along with a "mobile" version of the Microsoft OneNote program
and an interactive "Getting Started" wizard. Domain Enroll is functionality to connect the device to System Center Mobile Device Manager 2008, a product to manage mobile devices.
There are other differences as well. The most prominent difference for the user is that the Standard version (like earlier versions) still creates automatic links for telephone numbers in Tasks and Appointments, which allows for the easier click and dial of stored telephone numbers within these Outlook items.For some reason, the Professional version has eliminated this important feature.

Windows Mobile 6.1 also featured improved bandwidth efficiency in its push email protocol "Activesync" of "up to 40%*"(*source of info : http://blogs.msdn.com/devmktg/archive/2008...announced.aspx), this reduced data usage was the cause of considerably improved battery life in many devices. Aside from the visual and feature distinctions, the underlying CE versions can be used to differentiate WM6.0 from WM 6.1.The version of Windows CE in WM 6.0 is 5.2.*, with the final number being a 4 digit build ID (e.g. 5.2.1622 on HTC Wing). In WM 6.1, the CE version is 5.2.* with a 5 digit build number (e.g. 5.2.19216 on Palm Treo 800w).


Windows Mobile 6.5

Windows Mobile 6.5 was never part of Microsoft's mobile phone roadmap, and has been described by its chief executive, Steve Ballmer,
as an unwanted stopgap until the multi-touch enabled Windows Mobile 7 arrives in 2010. Version 6.5 is an upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.1 that was released to manufacturers on May 11, 2009,
and the first devices running the operating system debuted in late October '09.

This incremental update includes some significant new added features, such as a revamped GUI, new today screen with vertically scrollable labels (called 'Titanium'); though is generally regarded as a minor upgrade.It also includes the new Internet Explorer Mobile 6 browser (offering an Adobe Flash Lite 3 plug-in to its hardware partners using Windows Mobile 6.5),which has an improved interface over previous versions.

Microsoft unveiled this version at the 2009 Mobile World Congress in February, and several devices now run this Windows Mobile version,devices running Windows Mobile 6.5 onwards are marketed as "Windows phones". Along with Windows Mobile 6.5, Microsoft announced several Cloud computing services codenamed "SkyBox","SkyLine","SkyMarket"."SkyBox" has been confirmed as My Phone, while "SkyMarket" has been confirmed as Windows Marketplace for Mobile.Some aspects of the user interface have been redesigned with the home screen resembling that of Microsoft's Zune player and the sliding panel interface of Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard. This version was designed mainly for easier finger usage.Whilst this version of Windows Mobile does not natively support capacitive screens, mobile manufacturers have been able to successfully implement it on their devices.

Builds of Windows Mobile 6.5.1 have already been leaked and unofficially ported to several Windows Mobile phones.
Windows Mobile 6.5.1 will bring a more finger-friendly user interface, including icon based soft buttons (rather than text based),an updated contacts app, Microsoft (rather than the mobile carrier) support for A-GPS, improved threaded text messaging, and performance improvements.


Windows Mobile 6.5.3

On February 2, 2010, the Sony Ericsson Aspen with Windows Mobile 6.5.3 was officially announced, making it the first Windows Phone 6.5.3 smartphone.
Since November 2009, several 6.5.3 builds had leaked (28nnn) and had been unofficially ported to some Windows Mobile phones. Windows Mobile 6.5.3 brings a more finger-friendly user interface with several new ease of use features such as support for multitouch, complete touch control i.e. no need for a stylus, and drag and drop start menu icons. Touchable tiles now replace soft keys."Internet Explorer Mobile 6 has also received some major updates including decreased page load time, improved memory management and gesture smoothing. Additional features of newer Windows Mobile 6.5.3 builds include threaded email and Office Mobile 2010.


Windows Mobile 6.5.5

Several builds of Windows Mobile have leaked since January 2010 and have been unofficially ported to some Windows Mobile phones.
The name Windows Mobile 6.5.5 has been applied to these newer builds. However, this naming scheme remains unconfirmed by Microsoft.


Future versions : Windows Phone 7

Microsoft had originally planned to continue the Windows Mobile line to Windows Mobile 7, based on an upgrade to the Windows Mobile platform codenamed Photon.
The original Photon and Windows Mobile 7 have since been scrapped, however Microsoft has officially announced Windows Phone 7 Series in its place.
Microsoft has since also renamed the operating system from Windows Phone 7 Series to Windows Phone 7.It is planned for release by "holiday" 2010.

Windows Phone 7 was initially intended to be released during 2009, but several delays, and likely due to the move away from Photon, prompted Microsoft to develop Windows Mobile 6.5 as an interim release. During the Mobile World Congress 2010 in Barcelona, Microsoft revealed details of Windows Phone 7, which features a new operating system and integration with Xbox Live and Zune services.

It's being said that phones running Windows Mobile 6.x will not be upgradeable to Windows Phone 7.

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QUOTE(gck @ May 9 2010, 06:14 PM)
samseng b7610 user reporting in...
ex omnia 2 user...
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welcome~from omnia2, why? no much different between this two device beside the qwerty.
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I just go to Samsung service center for flash to newer ROM. IL1
just a bit change... more smoother a bit.
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QUOTE(gambateh @ May 11 2010, 11:39 AM)
they got need check anything such as receipt when flash for u?
coz mine is sg set although my firmware is same as ur previous firmware...
dono they will flash for me or i can flash myself at home using Internet  rolleyes.gif
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they didn't check warranty card. but they check the phone itself..
my friend with OMNIA2 SG set was wanted upgrade there, been rejected.
SG set better go SG for upgrade.
upgrade by won is possible, but the official file can;t sure. u can get from modaco for newer ROM but it may void ur warranty.
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QUOTE(hazril @ May 12 2010, 11:25 AM)
price around 1.8k if not mistaken...the sensitivity quite ok but seems laggy to me...the transition between the 3 home screen takes about a second to change....
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that is samsung touchWiz.
personally i dun use it, even in OMNIA2 it also lag..
u can use WIndow Default(titanium plugin) that pretty much smooth and save memory.
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QUOTE(herofire86 @ Jun 26 2010, 01:50 PM)
new b7610 reporting in smile.gif ....one question guys,  i cannot update my device firmware through samsung pc studio...it will say device is not supported,the device you have selected does not support software update gt-b7610(000-0000-0000)... do you experience the same prob or is it just me?

thanks....
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first time windows mobile user?
Samsung Kies was actually not fully supprt Omnia pro B7610.
you need to upgrade ur firmware(we call ROM version) at samsung mobile malaysia if u are local set.

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QUOTE(shing87 @ Jul 3 2010, 12:47 AM)
helllo how much uu sell for this?besat price is?pm me
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this is user forum not garage sales section.. u ask in wrong place. nod.gif
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QUOTE(lasenza87gul @ Jul 22 2010, 02:19 PM)
i went to digital mall just now to ask about this phone but the seller told me that samsung has stopped this phone production..

is it true? i really like this phone.. or ive just conned by him?
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ooo..maybe no a good selling product so no much ppl want sell it also.


Added on August 28, 2010, 1:14 pm
QUOTE(gambateh @ Jul 2 2010, 05:41 PM)
Got anyone try flash to 3th part ROM ?
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actually 3rd party ROm will increase it speed and responsibility with WM6.5.5 support. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Sep 6 2010, 02:39 PM)
guys....just wondering, when you bought the phone, do they give you the TV out cable?

or is the list below is all you got?
•Handset
•Battery
•Travel adapter (charger)
•CD-ROM
•Stereo headset
•PC data cable
•User manual
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Nope. TV cable is extra, not inside the box. new user?
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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Sep 7 2010, 11:11 AM)
yes. new user.  but 2nd hand phone.  just bought on 2nd Sept'10

anyone knows where to get the TV out cable?  I also want to get another ori charger.

also, anyone knows where to get the accessories for this phone?  I am looking for leather casing.


Added on September 7, 2010, 12:06 pmalso, somehow, the night shots are not that good. seems like got color "banding" and very grainy.

you guys experience this?
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at garage sale section u can find all thsoe, alternatively u can get it from www.lelong.com.my

about the camera, i think it still no that great compare to omnia i900...

frankly, this device is still no so friendly.

I just upgrade to newset version from Samsung mobile Malaysia, rom version IL3

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