Got a very nagging question stucked in my head for a very long time and I must get this off my chest:

Are players still active in COD4 in this part of the region(MY & SG)? Or have the number of players drop tremendously that they have gone to play some other games like MW2 and BF:BC2? Or have they all turned sissy and start to play with the Wii (joking, joking )?

Though on Xfire shows that COD4 clocks in the 2nd highest amount of time after WoW? I'm quite skeptical as I believe that most of this hours are clocked in by hardcore COD4 gamers that plays for competition and tournaments.





This post has been edited by JuzJoe: May 23 2010, 11:38 PM

i think most of them turned to mw2 and bc2

sigh... I was hoping to get some COD4 action for something else different than BF:BC2.

i there are still people playing COD4

still a lot of ppl playing cod4 dude. =.= u go check narakka, always full. lol. i used to play mw2 n its boring game. i still prefer play cod4 more than mw2. sometimes i play bfbc2 if my frens playing. hehe. bfbc2 its boring when u play alone especially when ur teammates all noooobs. =.=

my xfire friends list show ppl play cod4 more than bfbc2. mw2 its dead in my xfire friends list. haha.

cod4 community still alive over here. just no action a bit cause no tourney for now.

This post has been edited by sawakita9: Apr 10 2010, 01:33 PM

Could you show how many servers are still active in SEA and Australia?

Im seriously considering getting MW1,as MW2 is so much fail. The customisation is definitely better,but the matchmaking is annoying as hell. One minute,cant migrate host. Then,cant connect. And it uses so much bandwidth for a bloody game.

BFBC2 is definitely a better alternative,but my com cant take it. Hope Steam will do a free weekend for BFBC2 too so that i get to try too. Maybe it has hope in Squad Rush.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Apr 10 2010, 01:41 PM

CoD4 community definitely still alive. Just now is the cooldown period, as soon very big tournament is coming soon.

Now organizers is focusing on taking newcomers by organizing amateur tournament, it's in other thread, so make sure you check it out

Here's few servers that I know:
Narakka: 202.71.97.208:28960 (normal mode)
ESPGL TDM Promod server: 203.116.28.34:22960 (Promod server)

It cant be just 2 servers in the whole SEA.

Is there anymore?

There are many more rofl. Just that I just formatted my PC and the whole list gone. Anyways just go to here, http://www.espgl.com/index.php?option=com_...&id=9&Itemid=17

This post has been edited by syNcv9: Apr 10 2010, 03:10 PM

Alright,thats not so bad then.

I gotta start looking for a cheap copy then.

Does it matter if i get my copy from Steam or Retail? Any difference in the files that I need to know? After all you guys are mostly playing in promod right?

Anything I should know?

This post has been edited by JuzJoe: Apr 10 2010, 04:23 PM

Are there anymore servers?

Im not just looking at Promod,as it looks like they are trying to turn CoD4 back to CS1.6.It's good that they got rid of noobtube.

I want to play CoD,not CS.

There are a few more servers but most of it are private servers. Your best bet is either naraka, serverpark or espgl promod tdm.

Check espgl.com's list of servers.

i'm aliveeeeeeeeeee!

sohai roti. its your job to explain to them. give them wat they need la. come on roti! haha

the only server i know for pub. lol. others i got for scrim servers.

(Normal)
MY BOLEHVPN -HC TDM = 202.71.97.81:28960
Narakka [Malaysia] = 202.71.97.208:28960
Narakka II = 202.71.97.209:28960
ServerParkMY HC SnD = 119.110.110.36:29010

(Promod)
TFK Promod LIVE 2.04 = 203.116.28.28:28960
ESPGL TDM Promod Server = 203.116.28.34:22960

This post has been edited by sawakita9: Apr 10 2010, 05:38 PM

i try get sponsor make more tdm server kay? lololololol

make coop server tdm while u guys not scrimming larrr

XD

This post has been edited by rotisejuk: Apr 10 2010, 06:55 PM

bought a copy of COD4! add me up ppl on xfire / steam and start owning my ass ppl!*







*for a limited time period only

Where did you get yours? How much?

steam

RM95

Seems like that the cheapest option.

Hmmm discussion about Promod = CS 1.6 is like so long ago, i forgot how to explain it already. Basically Promod is NOT 1.6. You don't need to buy guns and ammo in the beginning of the game. Obviously you can't prone in CS 1.6 which already big difference in term of gameplay. And you don't have health bar, in CoD4 you can regen. And CoD4 you can aim downsight and CS you have to play to aim headshot only. And CoD4 you can sprint and strafe jump. And many more gameplay difference between Promod and CS1.6.

Stock CoD4 is too random for competitive playing. Imagine when you already clutch ace (1v5 kill all opponent team) and you just need to defuse the bomb, then suddenly claymore is in the bombsite and you weren't aware of it then boom, opposite team wins.

Or another one, opposite teams just use tubes and RPG and rush to your team then boom they win just like that.

Well I'm not that good in explaining, can someone help me?

This post has been edited by syNcv9: Apr 11 2010, 01:39 PM

So,promod is just CoD4 with claymore,tubes and RPGs?

Not that what I meant

The main point I was talking is, Promod already does away with the tubes and most of the imbalanced weapons. It is a refined version of the stock COD 4, toned down to fit the competitive scene internationally. (quote from rotisejuk in the other thread. thanks roti <3)

And anyways, if you don't like Promod, there are many stock servers, if you buy an original CoD4, you can refresh the "Internet" tab in the join game menu, 7k servers exists the last time I checked. With ping difference of course.

Okay,as long as the core CoD4's gameplay is there,i dont mind.

I saw CS:S's Promod and it's disgusting.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Apr 11 2010, 01:52 PM

promod basicly is a competitive mod

wut u will be expecting is tweek'd graphic, balanced map, balanced planting time n defuse, balanced weapon
more strategic gameplay, less randomness. u get the point.

promod is nt only available for cod4, u have it for cod2, cs, and so on.
kthxbai.

huh? you saying that i can't play in a promod server cause i got an original copy?

What i think is, some Promod servers are cracked servers.

You can enter Promod servers with ori or cracked.

most SEA servers don't filter cracked cd keys...(for some reason >:D)

anyways..the best way to find out is....

Just go in and tryyyyyy! wahahhah...(PS: keep your fingers crossed when you enter..if you get PB kicked..you know the drill =D)

What you mean with "if you get PB kicked..you know the drill "?

The drill says get an original copy.

The reason of PROMOD being brought up is to balance and create a more competitive scene so that it eliminate the "external factor". If you don't like it, you can go play servers without mod. There's still alot of em around in SEA.

The pure numbers definitely show that worldwide, on PC, Promod + stock CoD4 along with all the little holdouts on other random semi-succesful for-fun mods are > the concurrent on IWNet.

Pure stock vs MW2, on the other hand, I'm not so sure, especially in areas where MW2 isn't absolutely crippled by/plagued with shitty internet infrastructure. In my opinion MW2 could so easily have been the better game, but... yeah. Thanks Activision/IW :/

edit: You never know if you'll like Promod till you actually try it. And when you buy CoD4 you get to play both, anyway. Just sayin.

This post has been edited by Falk: Apr 12 2010, 12:39 AM

haha, I'm so green in this game. Need to sort out a few issues with punkbuster and learn/config the controls.

Could some one direct me to a link(besides bashandslash.com) where I would read on what I should config my game?

AFAIK, bashandslash.com has everything.

oh thx... looks like there will be alot of reading to do tonite.

most imba config

type this into console:

"/unbindall"

XD

MW2 is actually quite decent game,i would say,if you are not affected by internet problems. It find games fast,which is even faster than digging through your favourites some times.There isnt much noticeable lag,even most games i got are 2-3 bars. 4 bars feels like playing on a dedicated server.The matchmaking isnt as painful compared to GFWL or Gamespy.

The guns are shiny and look pretty cool. Some of the new stuff are pretty fun like Semtex grenades are pretty fun...

Until you open the Can of Problems,where you find annoying Akimbos, stupidly far knifing with Commando, hackers, hackers, hackers, laggers, noob tubes with Scavenge, knifing is much more superior than guns where they charge forward and kill you,even if you shoot, small games, small games on large maps, OP Killstreaks and so on. Im still not gonna buy it.

EA please optimise your BFBC2 more so that i can play it on my com please.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Apr 12 2010, 04:56 PM

now i have a problem with punkbuster~ T.T

everytime i start up mp mode... i get a msg saying that punkbuster fails to initialise and it's being disable.

went to options to enable it.

ina punkbuster enable server i get kick after awhile with a msg saying that there is no packet flow?

I went here http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=dl-cod4.php for solution and dl the files to my game folder.

but still...

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Added on April 12, 2010, 7:32 pmnvm... got it fixed already

anyway im getting pawn.... damn campers

This post has been edited by JuzJoe: Apr 12 2010, 07:32 PM

Which server you playing?

some random 140 ping server
how do i add local servers manuualy?

the server browser can't get me something thats lower than 100ms

Favorites servers -> add

aaah...

time to enter the lion's pit~

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Added on April 12, 2010, 9:57 pmwoooo im liking cod4! but there are alot of things that i still dont understand yet.

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Added on April 12, 2010, 9:58 pmany have any idea y im getting hiccups during a game? it's not like my ping is high or anything... my fps is around 85++

This post has been edited by JuzJoe: Apr 12 2010, 09:58 PM

maxcomfps 125

ftw

mmm did i type it right? can't rmb... so long nvr play wit configs.... kthxbai time to FFXIII~~

it's com_maxfps 125 xD or if your PC super enough make it 250.

humm... entered promod server on espgl today... it's very different from stock game but it's also feels empty cause it does away with alot of features.

it's good for competition, but it lacks "personality"

but it does make for a good simple pick up, without going crazy not knowing what to choose for perks and all that (for n00bs like me)

Anyway, please correct me if i'm wrong but lean is not useful right? I dont see how it's gonna be useful in this fast pace gameplay?

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Added on April 13, 2010, 1:17 pmdoes steady aim reduce recoil?

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Added on April 13, 2010, 1:18 pmI cant seem to bind the melee button to my side button on my razer mouse.

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Added on April 13, 2010, 1:18 pmany tips from veterans around here?

This post has been edited by JuzJoe: Apr 13 2010, 01:18 PM

lol. without lean, cod is really sux game cause i like to lean. xD hehe. lean is very useful actually but i dunno how to explain it. wat i can say, u can see the difference whether that person lean or not. hehe. where is rotisejuk?! explain! hahahahaha. xD

steady aim just to increase ur hip fire accuracy only. u can see the the difference at ur corsair. ur corsair is smaller if u use steady aim.

lol. normally i just go to razer software there, just put 'v' button for knife. lol.

Lean is useful when you want to pick out enemy without showing your whole body. Steady aim is good for smg if I'm not mistaken.

What mouse you using? If you using DA, try press the button on the mouse surface.

Tips. Ask the pros.

Lean is VERY useful. It helps reduce your hitbox and force your enemy to waste more ammo through wall/obstacles or he has to aim for what's left of your exposed body parts.

If you're a suicide rusher, however, lean doesn't do jackshit lol.

Steady aim reduces hip spread. THAT'S ALL.

If I may to chip in,

Lean is useful, once a player hid behind the soft drink vending machine in the map District I think – the map with market place in the middle, he was totally out of sight, only in killcam I knew where he was leaning. But it all depends on your playstyle, run and gun player may not use it often because they should be running around most if not all of the time ;p

Steady aim makes your hip fire shots more accurate – as mentioned above, doesn’t do anything about the recoil, zzirGrizz demonstrate the difference with or without Steady Aim accuracy using M40A3 in his G-Shot Tutorial, if that's your thing. Steady Aim benefits most to hip firing players, i.e. SMGers – as mentioned above, because IIRC Steady Aim doesn’t increase accuracy when aiming down the sight, and I don't ADS much in close quarter shootout.

I thought you can do it from the bundled software . . . but then again I don’t have a Razer product, yet ;p

I’m not a veteran per se but veteran teach me and I “learn” from them the fragging hard way, spectate, play, die, observe the killcam if any; Always very eager to return the favor though ;p

@ JuzJoe

Do you or have you play at MY BOLEHVPN?? If you do or already have, then maybe we can exchange shots in the future, else you should try it out.

I really loving cod4 now; both stock and promod depending on my mood. But it can be depress playing against seasoned players as they all know every corner of each map.

I'm still trying to figure out the characteristics of this each gun, learning the maps and observing what other player does when coming face to face in every situation.

lol i know im ranting right now, but this game is nice and it makes me wanna be good in it.

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Added on April 13, 2010, 5:22 pmyes i do play in that server. Favourite mode would be TDM and i'm the run & gun sort of player - dont like to camp. I only camp for a sort period of time if I know some1 is gonna cross path with me, thx my or UAV else I will literally search and destroy (to the best of my noob abilities)

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Added on April 13, 2010, 5:38 pmas a matter of fact i'm playing in bolehvpn right now.... but no thx to this guys making up their abitary rules saying that it's only bolt rifle only... =.=

This post has been edited by JuzJoe: Apr 13 2010, 05:38 PM

try jump+lean+crounch+prone+jump+spin spin spin your mouse!

your enemy will go nuts watching you! wahaahhahah XD

Now i want to get MW.

All you need to know about CoD4

I could make a Promod-chart if you want to.

as a matter of fact i'm playing in bolehvpn right now.... but no thx to this guys making up their abitary rules saying that it's only bolt rifle only... =.=

But are the other weapons still available as an option? If so, just proceed to whoop their asses. I hate those kind of fegs.

wtf, that is seriously alot of info! thx!

Luftwacko is cod wikipedia guy. so u ask him anything about cod. he will asnwer it for u. he got a lot of infos. hahaha xD

no he is a cod4 nerd hahahahaha

GG.com

roti!!!

roti boom

so you guys juz dont digg cod4 as much? what are you guys playing than?

We play espgl.

Some times when i get kill, instantly like getting 1 shot from the enemy and on the killcam it already shows that he already release fire a few rounds why is that? is it becuse of my fps?

it's called....

LAG ftw!

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0At...JlOVJ4ZVE&gid=0

this are all the config that you guys use?

@ JuzJoe

I’m not using any config, just the seta cg_drawFPS “Simple” to see what’s my FPS like. Last Sunday when playing in MY BOLEHVPN I was lag spiking matrix and all, so I checked in bashandslash and try the “pb_sleep 500” and then “pb_writecfg” command, and so the lag spike matrix slowly disappear, or maybe my connection got better, don’t know which but the lag spike matrix and all seems not much of an issue liao.

OTOH I think we exchanged shots a couple time this morning in MY BOLEHVPN server, FerDeLance here ;p Good gameplay yourself as well ;p

This post has been edited by zerashk: Apr 14 2010, 12:49 PM

haha... im still a noob in cod4

need to learn the maps and camping spots so I dont get ambush so much. gotta learn how to be agile in this game too.

What are the advantage of having a really high fps?

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Added on April 14, 2010, 1:51 pmAdd me up on xfire plz~

This post has been edited by JuzJoe: Apr 14 2010, 01:51 PM

Some excerpt from the link provided “http://www.guru3d.com/article/call-of-duty-world-at-war-vga-graphics-performance-test/1, November 10, 2008”, <excerpt>

<30 FPS = very limited gameplay
30 – 40 FPS = average yet very playable
40 – 60 FPS = good gameplay
> 60 FPS = best possible gameplay

When a graphics card is doing 60 FPS on average or higher then you can rest assured that the game will likely play extremely smooth at every point in the game, turn on every possible in-game IQ setting. </excerpt>

I don’t have xfire, oops , but I’ll add you after I get one!

o_0

normally when looking for cod 4 performance computers we look for fps 125 and above.

because fps 125 is when you can start doing the "strafe jumps" properly =D

Yea and so I was thinking if the extra 30 fps is really huge difference as compare to what I'm achieving right now. Does that mean that I will get the advantage of firing 1st? Cause I'm suspecting that everytime me and an enemy cross path out of a corner, they get the shot 1st and I end up dead. idk, probably that split sec of delay from me is the cost of dead and not the frame rate issue thingy.

lolool....

that normally happens because of ping difference...but...

make sure inside your options you have set your refresh rate to 75...and also you have set your "com_maxfps 125" or "com_maxfps 250"...because the default is 85.

The rest is just up to your gameplay.

Just to clarify, it's not that CoD4 competitive players are idiots who succumb to placebo effect. I'm well aware of the 'industry standards' i.e. film 24fps, NTSC 29.97fps drop frame, etc and the fact that no matter how high your ingame FPS goes, your monitor still displays at 60Hz/75Hz/whatever the refresh rate is.

The higher 125/250 FPS target is due to a peculiarity in the CoD4 engine, which derives from a peculiarity with its parent engine, the Q3Arena engine, where physics is calculated with the same precision as the rendering FPS. 125 and 250 are the 'peak points' just due to how the engine works - you jump higher/further, can move at a slightly faster speed before making footsteps, and actually take less fall damage when your FPS is solidly one of those two. Incidentally Q3A patched the issue so that it calculates physics at 125 ticks per second regardless of FPS, but Infinity Ward never bothered.

Probably because they already considered CoD a console franchise back then. Fagggots.

This post has been edited by Falk: Apr 15 2010, 02:13 PM

^

falk rant +25

btw...where is falk's dik?



This post has been edited by rotisejuk: Apr 15 2010, 10:38 PM

^

Nevermind,we'll just wait for the new game made by Respawn then.

Screw you,Activision.

Just to add, 24fps isn't sufficient to render a game smoothly as each frame is rendered individually instead of being part of a "motion" which is what is used in a regular video. Hence, for a game to look "smooth", a minimum of 60fps is required.

60 FPS is not smooth lol. Maybe for casual yes, but competitive 60 fps is suicidal lol!

60 fps pwn..ak 47 recoil become mp 44 recoil

The problem is, to have a monitor or TV thats capable of running at 120 Hz is very expensive wei.

After entering the command "com_maxfps 125" Im surprise there were no screen tearing on my 60hz monitor even though it's indicated on the xfire fps that the screen is refreshing at 125 fps.

Where is the screen tearing? or is the game still juz running at only 60fps max?

Tell me WHY must there be screen tearing in the first place?

he *scratch* hates *bash* screen *tear*

This may be outside the realm of practical discussion but people can easily tell the difference between 60, 200 and 1000 distinct still frames per second when we're talking about pre-rendered footage (i.e. when rendering for animated film, or more related to the discussion, CoD4 engine rendering for frag movies) even if the final output is 30 or 24fps with each of those being a composite of several frames of footage.

60/75fps is visually acceptable in our culture today as 'smooth' because that's what monitors have been running at for decades, i.e. what we're used to. Or maybe they became the standards since that's what people perceived as smooth. Whatever works.

Well considering how some ppl still have a hard time differentiating between 480p and 720p (And some with 720p and 1080p), its not exactly safe to assume that anyone can tell the difference between 60 and 200 fps so easily.

I said "people", not "everyone"

Like, in the "people have climed Mt. Everest" sense.

It dramatically changes the tone of the statement when you add the word "easily" to the mix (As per your original statement). But I get where you're coming from now.

yay English lessons

well, I think I will just play at the current fps that my computer is capable or running (125fps according to xfire). Usually on other games, Anything above 60fps, I will start to see screen tearing.

Anyway, after playing 10 hours of multiplayer. I think im getting the hang of the pace. Running around blindly looking for kills mostly just get me killed. What I learn - I think is that I gotta slow-down alil and do lots of "peekaboo". Having said that I now know why lean is actually a useful tool.

Knifing ppl in cod4 is so much more rewarding compare to BC2 even though you get to collect their dogtag as a souvenir.

you can type "cg_drawfps 1" in console without using xfire.

Just bought my copy of CoD4.

Saw it cheap at GAME today.

Also pick up Mirror's Edge for 4AUD.

@ JuzJoe

Yours truly being a bloodlusted, trigger happy, menacing, son of a gun by nature also got fragged often for being overly offensive in CoD4, however I think and felt that’s not the case when I’m playing CoD5 because I don’t remember getting irritated much by camper(s) in CoD5.

@ Cheesenium

Let’s rendezvous MY BOLEHVPN then! Go! Go! Go!

I guess i'll see you in July then.

If i play on MY BOLEHVPN, PB wont like me and it will kick me.

Anyway,how many patches do i need to download?

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Apr 20 2010, 05:32 PM

aobut 7 patches i think

shit,should have bought Steam version.

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Added on April 20, 2010, 6:40 pmMy currrent copy is 1.0.525, so which patch do i need to bring it up to the latest version?

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Apr 20 2010, 06:40 PM

bolehvpn is basically a hardcore mode server right? COD5 is still active in this part of the region?