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TSmaru
post Apr 10 2010, 11:11 AM, updated 15y ago

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Hi guys,

Just wondering what is the price they currently offering?

Well i've been 2 year into this sales engineer market but one thing make me sad is the basic pay.

Recently i thinking want to change my job but guess what 6 out of 8 company offer me basic 2.0-2.2k

With my 2 year experience, as a degree holder, i getting 2k average? seem like not a very good future in this sales engineer line...

While my girlfriend, degree holder in business, working in public bank, getting 2.8k as basic?

Its really demotivated me...feel like joining bank industry

Did try to apply other job than sales line but due to my past experience, they will take me as fresh.

Seem engineering not really a good career in KL...

In penang my fren getting 3k as start...here? less than 2.5k


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post Apr 10 2010, 11:31 AM

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TS, basic salary for a Sales Engineer is always lower
ur target is doing sales for your company
in return you'll get commission (2-4% depends), allowances, claim & etc

sometimes all your claims will be more than your basic salary
everything depends on your sales
better ask again all benefit offered by the company
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post Apr 10 2010, 12:04 PM

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maru, what are u selling? Its time to move to higher level to management or business development.
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post Apr 10 2010, 12:40 PM

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yes,what r u selling?
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post Apr 10 2010, 12:54 PM

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oops

those industrial automation la...

like inverter,plc, sensor etc

currently applying for those business development but seem more likely scam lolx

like newflex or infinitebiz

sell saving plan for telekom
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post Apr 10 2010, 01:04 PM

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Question: Are you a good sales engineer?

When it comes to convincing people to pay you more, that is a more relevant factor than whether you have a degree or not.

You are worth only as much as what people are willing to pay you. Not what you think you need or what you think you deserve.
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post Apr 10 2010, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(maru @ Apr 10 2010, 11:11 AM)
Hi guys,

Just wondering what is the price they currently offering?

Well i've been 2 year into this sales engineer market but one thing make me sad is the basic pay.

Recently i thinking want to change my job but guess what 6 out of 8 company offer me basic 2.0-2.2k

With my 2 year experience, as a degree holder, i getting 2k average? seem like not a very good future in this sales engineer line...

While my girlfriend, degree holder in business, working in public bank, getting 2.8k as basic?

Its really demotivated me...feel like joining bank industry

Did try to apply other job than sales line but due to my past experience, they will take me as fresh.

Seem engineering not really a good career in KL...

In penang my fren getting 3k as start...here? less than 2.5k
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I ask a candidate why you want to leave the company. The first word from his mouth is i want higher pay. His current is RM1.8k and ask for RM2.5k. That is fine when you have a baseline what you want. But when i perform the measurement whether he worth that much, he don't even can speak proper English and yet is a degree holder.

A candidate with request salary of 2.5k basic, but i told her you are worth more than the request salary after screen through her resume as she is skilfull and good. The impress moment is my CLIENT would like to give her the OFFER LETTER on the spot of 1st interview. So this kind of candidate im more than wiling to help her. She finally get an offer of 2.9k. Actually im fight for her 3k, but the employer put into agreement of increase after probation.

IN short, in order other to help you, first you must help yourself first. Look at your skills first, then only get into what pay you deserve, not vice verse.

Just my humble opinion.
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post Apr 11 2010, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Apr 10 2010, 01:27 PM)
I ask a candidate why you want to leave the company. The first word from his mouth is i want higher pay. His current is RM1.8k and ask for RM2.5k. That is fine when you have a baseline what you want. But when i perform the measurement whether he worth that much, he don't even can speak proper English and yet is a degree holder.

A candidate with request salary of 2.5k basic, but i told her you are worth more than the request salary after screen through her resume as she is skilfull and good. The impress moment is my CLIENT would like to give her the OFFER LETTER on the spot of 1st interview. So this kind of candidate im more than wiling to help her. She finally get an offer of 2.9k. Actually im fight for her 3k, but the employer put into agreement of increase after probation.

IN short, in order other to help you, first you must help yourself first. Look at your skills first, then only get into what pay you deserve, not vice verse.

Just my humble opinion.
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I absolutely agree with your statement laugh.gif

Last month I went for an interview with a big MNC company
the session went well since the job is almost similar with what i'm currently doing
i'm asking salary for 2.8K, but later after 2 days they call me and offer 3.3K basic salary

now i'm feeling more confidence to secure a job with my current knowledge and exp
never thought that I can beat a few other candidates with 1st Class Degree Holder tongue.gif

Hope I'm not getting off topic..just sharing my point

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post Apr 14 2010, 09:40 AM

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Hi all,

For anyone with experience (or opinion), how do you compare being a sales engineer between various industry, especially telecommunication, oil & gas, and electronics industry?

Understand that the nature of the job & working environment is very much the same, but how about customer set/client base/level of competition and of course remuneration package?

Will anyone with business qualification instead of engineering find it too challenging (of course the person would be someone very enthusiastic and a keen learner too)?

Thanks~

TSmaru
post Apr 14 2010, 06:23 PM

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Sales engineer need some technical knowledge to backup due to technical issue...

so most likely they wont take business degree...unless u got 2-3 sales experience then they might consider you....


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post Apr 15 2010, 04:13 PM

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Splendid, thanks maru.

Anyone else care to add?
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post Apr 15 2010, 05:09 PM

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what type of sales engineer are you talking about?

sell parts? sell equipment? service?
i do sales for part before , those are more general sales job but also need some engineering knowledge on material and such

machine of course need to know how it works and support a bit
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post Apr 15 2010, 05:20 PM

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Thanks for that.

Okay let's be specific, oil & gas sales engineer. Sells and markets equipment/parts for refineries/plants/rigs. The person came from business background, instead of engineering.

No, I dont have an inside scoop of how it is done & thats why I'm curious. Very curious.

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post Apr 15 2010, 05:22 PM

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well if u know sales , then no problem one as long they willing to hire u.
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post Apr 16 2010, 12:13 AM

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Stingrest, you will still need basic technical knowledge when confronting with customer face to face. At least understand on the goods that you're selling. Knowing your goods means you can confidently converse & deal with customer while increasing chances of seizing more deals.
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Just to add, the word 'Engineer' means you're technically competent to answer the technical queries. I would say most of the time, they would hire people from engineering background or have experience.
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post Aug 12 2010, 11:00 PM

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Am wondering do sales engineer get commissions like insurance/bond sellers? Because 2-4% can be alot if the sales is by the millions.

Also most sales engineers work as a team, with other sales engineers & also their technical/commercial counterparts. Younger sales engineers usually do the follow ups from the seniors, and the fact that most jobs are not given by purely the effort of "selling" like insurance/bond/cosmetics etc, where it goes through series of screening & commercial competitiveness.

So in the end sales engineers are merely doing introductions, dealling with customers on sales/after sales services etc, while the success of getting a job depends on the whole team.

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post Jan 21 2011, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Apr 10 2010, 01:27 PM)
I ask a candidate why you want to leave the company. The first word from his mouth is i want higher pay. His current is RM1.8k and ask for RM2.5k. That is fine when you have a baseline what you want. But when i perform the measurement whether he worth that much, he don't even can speak proper English and yet is a degree holder.

A candidate with request salary of 2.5k basic, but i told her you are worth more than the request salary after screen through her resume as she is skilfull and good. The impress moment is my CLIENT would like to give her the OFFER LETTER on the spot of 1st interview. So this kind of candidate im more than wiling to help her. She finally get an offer of 2.9k. Actually im fight for her 3k, but the employer put into agreement of increase after probation.

IN short, in order other to help you, first you must help yourself first. Look at your skills first, then only get into what pay you deserve, not vice verse.

Just my humble opinion.
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post Jan 21 2011, 12:23 AM

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i'm sales engineer for OnG company... dip holder and i got better salary plus the allowance... may be i'm lucky guys...
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post Jan 21 2011, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(freedom2912 @ Apr 11 2010, 10:16 AM)
I absolutely agree with your statement  laugh.gif

Last month I went for an interview with a big MNC company
the session went well since the job is almost similar with what i'm currently doing
i'm asking salary for 2.8K, but later after 2 days they call me and offer 3.3K basic salary

now i'm feeling more confidence to secure a job with my current knowledge and exp
never thought that I can beat a few other candidates with 1st Class Degree Holder  tongue.gif

Hope I'm not getting off topic..just sharing my point
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RM3.3k should be the standard rate for that position. for fresh graduates i interviewed, their expectation varied from RM2k all the way to RM3.3k.
end of the day, the ones successfully hired are all getting paid RM2.8k.
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post Jan 21 2011, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Jan 21 2011, 12:35 AM)
RM3.3k should be the standard rate for that position. for fresh graduates i interviewed, their expectation varied from RM2k all the way to RM3.3k.
end of the day, the ones successfully hired are all getting paid RM2.8k.
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Sounds like salaries might be on the uptrend again. Employees' market ahead?
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QUOTE(freedom2912 @ Apr 11 2010, 10:16 AM)
I absolutely agree with your statement  laugh.gif

Last month I went for an interview with a big MNC company
the session went well since the job is almost similar with what i'm currently doing
i'm asking salary for 2.8K, but later after 2 days they call me and offer 3.3K basic salary

now i'm feeling more confidence to secure a job with my current knowledge and exp
never thought that I can beat a few other candidates with 1st Class Degree Holder  tongue.gif

Hope I'm not getting off topic..just sharing my point
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how many year of experience u have in sales engineer position, since 3.3k as basic is quite high in my opinion.

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post Jan 21 2011, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Jan 21 2011, 12:35 AM)
RM3.3k should be the standard rate for that position. for fresh graduates i interviewed, their expectation varied from RM2k all the way to RM3.3k.
end of the day, the ones successfully hired are all getting paid RM2.8k.
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ur company mnc? or some sendirian berhad ?

need advise....

almost 3 year working experience in sales line....

now getting 3k only + 1k allowance....no commission.....

jump?
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TS, good topic~

For me, i'm a sales engineer myself too... Worked 1.5yrs but in different industry and my current company considered me as a fresh grad~ Even if i previously worked in a Sales&Marketing position in my ex-company.

So fine, i agreed with them on considering me as a fresh grad as they 'pushed' the fact that i'm a freshie in the engineering industry.

My previous job offered me 2k. Now i'm down to 1.8k without any %commission.....

For the past few months i managed settle deals amounting to 200k. (not much though i guess)... But apparently, i dont even get 1% out of it...

Whats best? I wouldn't be boasting, but one of my managers told me that my command of Eng is one of the best in the company, and they wanted me to do presentations to companies and in seminars. =="

I'm totally fine with that but the basic for the company is SERIOUSLY PATHETIC.....

As mentioned above by you guys, 2.8k-3.3k range is basic? got +%commission?

*Sighs~~ Wish my salary would rise~

On a side note, i think my boss saw the 200k took in for the company.... Now he's giving me a full year target~ 1.6m all the way to Dec'11. When i hit 1.6m, i ONLY GET 4months bonus and rm400/month increase in salary. Honestly 4months? Isn't it too little??

I dont know guys~ I may be ranting here but i really hope to get some feedback esp from other sales engineers. My company is dealing more with photovoltaics, capacitor banks, circuit breakers, contactors and many more... (if you guys know what i'm talking about)

cheers~ dont flame happy.gif
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post Jan 26 2011, 09:53 AM

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1.8k wif no comm is a low. usually sales eng basic low but its compensated with commission which can hit 10k in a good sales since u r dealing with cap banks,pv,cb,etc. 1.6mill shouldnt be hard to hit as the market has many projects now.

but ur 1.8k is basic only u still can claim mileage ? car maintenance? hp? right? ++ -- u can hit about 2.5k? no?
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post Jan 26 2011, 10:26 AM

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sigh, at most i can claim until 2.1~ no biggie lar ==" minus epf, my claims all in a way gone. left with 1.8k to bring home. T_T

so hard to live in KL somemore i Cheras--->ShahAlam everyday
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post Jan 26 2011, 10:39 AM

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well then tats low
since u r fresh mayb stay for a year for the xp then u can change/jump
get a hook on the equipmnt u r selling u can branch to many areas later switch board manufac, else u can join bigger players eg. abb, schneider in the future
good luck bro
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is there any woman sales engineer here..? rolleyes.gif
hehe becoz,im a fresh grad with a degree in engineering and im a woman icon_rolleyes.gif
i think i want to become sales eng as to become an engineer is quit though la,i think doing sales in much more fit me,as i like to meet people,chat2,i think sales eng is more relax ryte (i mean compare to process/project eng,etc..)?is it? whistling.gif whistling.gif




 

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