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post Apr 10 2010, 01:35 AM, updated 15y ago

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Hi guys,

my car installment has finally settled and i am thinking of getting a bike next.

now, budget is below 20k, but i wouldnt mind to top it to 30k if i find something which perfectly suits me.

i perfer smtg like:
- brand new sportsbike or naked/streetbike. (not a chopper/cruiser/tourer fan here.)
- 250 to 650cc
- 4 stroke
- as an alternative daily commute (car is still my main), 30mins city ride to work.
- occasional weekend "getaway" ride
- strictly non European machine.


I have actually shortlisted a few bikes, but.....

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1. Kawasaki ninja 250R - RM23K (fuel injection '10 model)
Pro:
- good beginner bike
- decent handling
- resell value
Con:
- kindda small for a 6' man like myself, not comfy for long legs. handle bar almost knocked my knee when making sharp turns.
- pricey for a 250cc.
- skinny and similar looking as the smaller 150cc NSR, TZM and super KIPS 150  hmm.gif



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2. Kawasaki ER6N - RM34K
Pro:
- one of the cheapest 650cc
- badass & muscular looking
Con:
- seriously beyond my budget
- no windscreen, fighting the wind at >120km/h will put much load on both arms unless sticking the chin on the tank. might not suitable for weekend cruising.
- poor ergonomics for 6 footer. crampy for long legs



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3. Honda VTR250 2010 - Price TBA
Pro:
- V-twin
- great ergonomics
- quality built (its a honda rolleyes.gif )
- italian style like a baby ducati monster
- price tag fits my pocket (in thai, VTR is 5000baht cheaper than kawa 250R)
Con:
- yet to be launched, will it ever reach Msia?  wink.gif
- 3hp less then kawa 250R ( VTR 29hp, 250R 32hp). it may sound insignificant, but thats 10%hp less, do the math!
- missing 6th gear
- could be expensive if CBU (Kawa 250R is rm21k because its CKD, if this VTR isnt CKD.... doh.gif 
(until today there is still no news about this bike, i guess we should forget about the VTR)



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4. Honda CBR250 2011 - Price TBA (Est RM20k+)
Pro:
- Honda = built quality, reliable & durable, plenty of spareparts icon_rolleyes.gif
- ABS (optional)

Con:
- single cylinder OMG doh.gif  this one is killing me.
- CBU from thai unless Boon Siew localize it
- only 13L tank (ninja has 17.4L)


there are other bikes that i have looked into like the Naza blade 250 and 650 but none have really draw my attention yet.

so sifus & gurus, please give me some suggestions and recommendations on what do u think that might suits me.

i want a bike that looks good, sounds right, feels fun.
looking forward to join you guys for convoy, soon enough i hope! thumbup.gif

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honda VTR added into the list

edited:
honda CBR added into the list

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post Apr 10 2010, 01:45 AM

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post Apr 10 2010, 01:46 AM

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er6f? the hottest bike now.
anyway, you can install windscreen on er6n easily.


Added on April 10, 2010, 1:48 amhmmm. dont get 250r. Few months of riding you would feel like throwing it away. Underpowered, unable to join certain convoy due to lack of speed/power. Just choose between er6n or er6f. If you dont mind 2nd hand bikes, there are more to choose from.

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post Apr 10 2010, 01:50 AM

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post Apr 10 2010, 10:14 AM

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Instead of er-6n, how about er-6f?
Basically an er-6n with fairings.
http://kawasaki.com.my/productpage.php?do=...tail&pro_id=105

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post Apr 10 2010, 11:08 AM

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if for me i will got for er6n or er6f, may be save a few more month to get enough money. the 250 likely you will feel underpower soon after riding it.
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post Apr 10 2010, 11:34 AM

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if u can consider used, used kawa zxr 750 L model should be below rm25k.. J model should be below rm20k..

or used aprilia rs250.. rm13k onwards.. but its a 2-stroke and parts might cost u a bomb..

go HERE.. u might be poisoned.. lol
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post Apr 10 2010, 12:28 PM

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with your budget, i would suggest er6f

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not much u can choose for a price range of RM20 to 30k.

er6n too common liao, everywhere also got.
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 10 2010, 12:28 PM)
er6n too common liao, everywhere also got.
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of cause common, which new 600 cc bike you buy for 32k new? thank to our wonderful tax and AP system.
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Apr 10 2010, 12:54 PM)
of cause common, which new 600 cc bike you buy for 32k new? thank to our wonderful tax and AP system.
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Thats true....since there is no other 600cc that you can buy new with 30k range,unless you opted for second hand bike.

50k range can get you second hand 05-06 ZX636 or GSX-R600 K4-K5(but other brand than kawa is quite rare to find especially Suzuki)


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post Apr 10 2010, 07:30 PM

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how about 2nd hand bike?

zxr 250cc

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post Apr 10 2010, 09:01 PM

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oh come on, the er6f is 40K+ beast, and its a supersport.
i dont need a fast bike. speed is my least concern as i have mentioned that the bike is just for me to get to work zapping through urban traffic.

and thx for the continental or used bike recommendations, i prefer brand new jap or CKD ones. hassle free, cheaper to maintain and wide range of aftermarket parts.


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Wah the VTR. I also want it sad.gif
I love nakeds.
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post Apr 10 2010, 09:28 PM

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KSR 110? it may be small, but looks very nice. only 7k
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post Apr 10 2010, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Agent717 @ Apr 10 2010, 09:20 PM)
Wah the VTR. I also want it sad.gif
I love nakeds.
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yup. sexy it is.

im praying that this baby is going to CKD and available in the market by 3rd or 4th quarter this year. but i dont have high hopes coz 250cc have a tiny market in malaysia. (kawa 250R and blade 250 are the only 2 choices we have now)

150cc is rm8k-10k. 10k/150= rm67 per CC
250cc is rm20k. 20k/250=rm80 per CC
400cc is...(where are the 400s in msia?)
650cc is 35-45k+. 40k/650=rm61 per CC

250 is vastly overpriced, not to mention if CBU cry.gif


Added on April 10, 2010, 9:43 pm
QUOTE(bluears @ Apr 10 2010, 09:28 PM)
KSR 110? it may be small, but looks very nice. only 7k
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hah, i have nvr thought of it.
7k is pretty easy going but it looks more like a toy then a real bike. is it capable to bring me to genting on any weekend joy ride? i doubt so shakehead.gif

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post Apr 11 2010, 01:50 AM

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If speed is not the main concern, kawa 250r is a good choice. It can go up to 170/180 and i think its already enough for cruising on highways.the seating position also quite relaxing as it is actually a sport tourer, so ur body will be on quite an upright position.

If u want something cheaper maybe u can try naza blade 250r. those early model had some QC issues but the new 1 has improved. i'm using one and satisfied with it. but it's quite hard to find spareparts and aftermarket parts if u are not in KL smile.gif
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QUOTE(yamato @ Apr 10 2010, 09:39 PM)

Added on April 10, 2010, 9:43 pm

hah, i have nvr thought of it.
7k is pretty easy going but it looks more like a toy then a real bike. is it capable to bring me to genting on any weekend joy ride? i doubt so shakehead.gif
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Say that to the myksr community lol
They have been travel from KL to Perak. Very good bike. I own one actually.

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@kapalterbang 737
im glad that u share your biking experience with us. the infos are sincere & will definitely help me in choosing the right bike. notworthy.gif

@agent717
pls dont get me wrong, ksr is a decent machine, but it doesnt fit my case.
eg. ksr, c70, hayabusa or V-max all can travel from point A to point B without a prob, in fact there are thousands of bikes out there that can do the same, but im looking for the right bike, which can only be just one.

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if u like that kind of sound on the 250 try get er6n sounds more powerful and faster than 250r.

honestly if i have no choice i wud rather choose er6n or klx150, dtracker 250 over ninjz 250r, they sounds better than 250 ninja. but i wud preffer inline 4 cylinder sound like cbrf4i


or you can opt for kawasaki dtracker 250 (supermoto), with extra cash if u want to, try mod it with accessories and tune the bike better.

supermoto front fender, rear fender and seats. high handle bar. etc etc

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QUOTE(enjoice @ Apr 11 2010, 05:04 AM)
if u like that kind of sound on the 250 try get er6n sounds more powerful and faster than 250r.

honestly if i have no choice i wud rather choose er6n or klx150, dtracker 250 over ninjz 250r, they sounds better than 250 ninja. but i wud preffer inline 4 cylinder sound like cbrf4i
or you can opt for kawasaki dtracker 250 (supermoto), with extra cash if u want to, try mod it with accessories and tune the bike better.

supermoto front fender, rear fender and seats. high handle bar. etc etc

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hmm... i think many of you are actually recommending bikes that u favoured laugh.gif j/k
i wouldnt buy a bike based on the 'sound'. and words like 'powerful' or 'faster' dont work on me, im not a young chap that fancies flashy bike. i need a practical bike (not kapchai) as a daily commuter.
L4 for 20k? brand new? be my guest yawn.gif

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lol off course ppl recommend bike that they favour, then if majority rules either u opt for it with pros and cons.

Dtracker is pretty nice and versatile for daily commute, check review here

http://blogs.nst.com.my/man-on-wheels/kawa...cker-250-review

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It used to be the motorcycling crowd could be divided cleanly between superbikers and off-roaders.
The superbikers hang around at Hard Rock Cafe and go riding to Genting on the weekends.
The off-roaders on the other hand spend most of their time jumping in the jungle and are rarely seen.
But now, a strange hybdrid of the two is forming on the fringes of the local biking scene.
Supermotos, or also known as supermotards are fast gaining popularity.
For those who don't know much about bikes, a supermotard is basically a scrambler with superbike tyres.

You would think that a tall scrambler would be horrible to ride around twisty roads.
But as I rode the Kawasaki D-Tracker around some sharp bends in the neighbourhood - this myth was quickly proven to be untrue.
The D-Tracker is basically a Kawasaki KLX-250 'scrambler' with 17-inch street rims.

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well just finished reading the blog, interest yet convincing.
i was bias against motard but it does proved me wrong.

but the tank is small 7.5L for just 100km meaning it could run out of gas in just an hour ride on highway doing 100km/h! thats not gonna help on my weekend 'makan angin' trip :/
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you can have aftermarket parts/ extra capacity for gas tank. hey even malaysia have everything.. but too expensive for some stuff ... rclxub.gif
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go with the Er6n (yes I know its over your budget, but in the long run, you'll be happy you took the 650.

extremely reasonably priced for a big motorbike in Malaysia compared to its "luxury" brethren.

I dont think you plan to ride 250+ kmph right?
This bike will cruise at 150 perfectly for hours. 17L full tank might take you around 300 km (but this one gotta confirm with the owners first)

The er6f to me is just not worth the extra 7k for the fairing.
If I wanted speed so badly I'll just save more for a CBR 600.


Going for the 250 R is fine if you feel you're a beginner and absolutely in no hurry when you makan angin. And doesnt lose out on looks either.
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QUOTE(junbecks @ Apr 12 2010, 11:16 AM)
go with the Er6n (yes I know its over your budget, but in the long run, you'll be happy you took the 650.

extremely reasonably priced for a big motorbike in Malaysia compared to its "luxury" brethren.

I dont think you plan to ride 250+ kmph right?
This bike will cruise at 150 perfectly for hours. 17L full tank might take you around 300 km (but this one gotta confirm with the owners first)

The er6f to me is just not worth the extra 7k for the fairing.
If I wanted speed so badly I'll just save more for a CBR 600.
Going for the 250 R is fine if you feel you're a beginner and absolutely in no hurry when you makan angin. And doesnt lose out on looks either.
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well said.

as for me, i'll still take the KSR. u can go very far without filling up. but if u plan to makan angin then, this is where u lose out. u still can do it, but on highway, this bike seems to small. just nice for city tho.
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not sure which shop allows you to take it out for a test ride but my personal preference is always a bike without fairings... looks nicer (to me) and less hassle (and cheaper) when it comes to servicing it.
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QUOTE(junbecks @ Apr 12 2010, 11:16 AM)
go with the Er6n (yes I know its over your budget, but in the long run, you'll be happy you took the 650.

extremely reasonably priced for a big motorbike in Malaysia compared to its "luxury" brethren.

I dont think you plan to ride 250+ kmph right?
This bike will cruise at 150 perfectly for hours. 17L full tank might take you around 300 km (but this one gotta confirm with the owners first)

The er6f to me is just not worth the extra 7k for the fairing.
If I wanted speed so badly I'll just save more for a CBR 600.
Going for the 250 R is fine if you feel you're a beginner and absolutely in no hurry when you makan angin. And doesnt lose out on looks either.
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+1 to a very thorough reply.

after reading your comment, i have finally go down to a showroom and check out the er6n. like any other bike shops, no test ride is allowed, so i mounted my butt on the stall bike while chatting with the salespersonal.

few things i have noticed while i sat on it:
1) er6n doesnt give the feel of a 650 biggie should. its slightly lower, shorter and thinner than others in the same class.
2) the foot pegs are annoying for a 6 footer. they are designed like those on sportbikes. my hip & knee are uncomfortable after resting on the pegs for 5mins. maybe its not the pegs, i suspect the culprit is the lowered seat that kawa designed to suit lady bikers.

this pic is very much self explained, just look at his leg, i believe hes about 5'8"
the riding position is ok on a sportbike or a racebike, but not er6n, its a naked streetbike which should have great ergonomics sweat.gif
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Which showroom did u went to? Didn't try Ninja 250r while u were there?
the ninja riding position not too radical so it's quite comfortable..sat on it before..if u are around pj area we can have TT and i can let u test my bike biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Apr 14 2010, 07:50 PM)
Which showroom did u went to? Didn't try Ninja 250r while u were there?
the ninja riding position not too radical so it's quite comfortable..sat on it before..if u are around pj area we can have  TT and i can let u test my bike  biggrin.gif
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well it isnt really a showroom, its more like an ordinary bike shop selling 2 wheelers with repair services.
it is in rawang, near the toyota showroom.

im now less interest in the er6n, the price tag is something i can compromise, but not the ride comfort. ohmy.gif
will narrow down the bike hunting to 250R. theres not much option atm.

and thx again for offering me to test your bike, i seldom travel to PJ but if i do, will pm you some time earlier (hope it doesnt trouble you too much) thumbup.gif notworthy.gif thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

btw, the shop has white er6f for sale, brand new for 36k. i always tot it is >40k.
whats the OTR price actually?


Added on April 14, 2010, 9:30 pmno 250R avail.
there are 3 kawas, the er6n er6f and a....cruiser....shadow? i didnt really look at it, lol

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well it isnt really a showroom, its more like an ordinary bike shop selling 2 wheelers with repair services. 
it is in rawang, near the toyota showroom.

im now less interest in the er6n,  the price tag is something i can compromise, but not the ride comfort.  ohmy.gif
will narrow down the bike hunting to 250R. theres not much option atm.

and thx again for offering me to test your bike, i seldom travel to PJ but if i do, will pm you some time earlier (hope it doesnt trouble you too much)  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif

btw, the shop has white er6f for sale, brand new for 36k. i always tot it is >40k.
whats the OTR price actually?
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if u are in rawang maybe u can go to gombak and give WELLY a visit..they have most model of superbikes, new and used. No problem, just trying to help, and give poison a bit tongue.gif give me a buzz if u in PJ

ER-6f price OTR is around rm35.5k-rm36k..those model that priced at rm40k++ is a CBU model, this one is CKD model..er-6f looks cool with the fairing thumbup.gif
Ninja 250r is around rm21k OTR..the design really have the superbike feels but it's quite small..

Here is a comparison of Ninja 250r and Blade 250r
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A 5'10'' rider still looks ok riding it, although anyone over 6 feet may want to consider something a bit bigger or risk looking clownish.



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Then u have to go with Blade tongue.gif

That's if u are over 6 feet, and u ngam2 6 feet right? hmm.gif
Don't worry lah, those Americans riding Ninja still looks ok..i bet they are over 6 feet..u should check out the bike first and sit on it. smile.gif
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yup, definitely gotta drop by welly someday.

i hope 6 footer isnt too bad on a ninja. i saw lotsa 6' on cubs & scooter but still look ok. (some are 5'10" but 120kg) haha.

the pegs about the same height as er6n? hmmm
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But becareful when u wanna go to Welly, maybe u will end up buying zx6r tongue.gif tongue.gif
I think u'll be fine with Ninja..the bike received good response all over the world. IF my memory served me right , the foot pegs on Ninja is non-adjustable. My bike footpegs is adjustable one icon_idea.gif I think height won't be a problem but rider body size may affect a bit on the appearance of the bike. I think la.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(yamato @ Apr 10 2010, 01:35 AM)
now, budget is below 20k, but i wouldnt mind to top it to 30k if i find something which perfectly suits me.

i perfer smtg like:
- brand new sportsbike or naked/streetbike. (not a chopper/cruiser/tourer fan here.)
- 250 to 650cc
- 4 stroke
- as an alternative daily commute (car is still my main), 30mins city ride to work.
- occasional weekend "getaway" ride
- strictly non European machine.

ER-6 series are gud. fairing@no fairing, depends on you.
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TS, ER6n/f is your only choice.

I owned er6f (sold recently), 250R and YZF-R6 coming.

ER6F is all round winner. Foot peg, Seat height is adjustable dude!

Happy hunting.
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huh? pegs & seat on er6f are adjustable????
can some1 confirm this pls, im really keen to know.
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Yes, er6f seat is adjustable. Here's my 6f with pannier. Love the fc and performance though it can't match superbike. OTR 36k but after May, it will shoot up to 37k according to Kawa.

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Are you riding a moped now? those big cc bike (i mean 650cc) will make you spend a lot more on fuel, insurance and road tax, not to mention normal service yet. Insurance + road tax alone is RM1600+ IIRC.

If you get 250R you might join those who wanna sell their ninja for a bigger cc bike after few months.

My 2 cents is, go to Mudah page and then pick up some 250R/ER6N seller contact to test their bike, since its a used bike i think they will let you test it. After that you make your decision, dont rush.

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http://blog.zeemp.com/20-super-sport-bikes...ur-inspiration/

pick your poison?

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QUOTE(eddychstu @ Apr 16 2010, 01:40 PM)
funny, if those are within Ts budget, i bought SOME of them long time ago smile.gif
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laugh.gif my bad, just thought these are some cool rides to share
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yes, foot pegs & seat is adjustable lah dude! I've adjusted it for my liking!
Adjust rear shock to get ur right seat height with the tool provided.

Yes, insurance + r/tax is definitely more expensive than kapchai due to the market price insured.


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ok guys, i have come this far & kinda firm to get a Kawi 250R. of coz i have taken many of your advice to get a better & powerful bike, but CC is not what im after. leisure riding & economic are my only concern. so a 250 is the winner, hands down ^^

i have been busy searching in the web & found several adjustable foot pegs & custom made seats for 250R. there are plenty of after market parts in the web (especially ebay US), now all i need is few more grand for moding the bike wink.gif

current buying list:
slip on muffler
slider bar
adjustable gear lever (if long distance ride is frequent)
adjustable foot pegs (if long distance ride is frequent)
undertail/eliminator

but first thing first, i gotta settle the busy work which will probably last until june or so. then i will get 250R out of the shop. hehe


Added on April 19, 2010, 9:49 pmabout the kawi 250R engine spec, those in US are carburetors & theres also fuel injection for europe & thai... but why not malaysia? hmm.gif

kawasaki msia <<click on the "SPECS" tab
is that 2008 outdated model? or the 2010 ones are fuel injection?

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Looks like u've decided which bike u wanna go, Kawasaki 250r is a good choice thumbup.gif
In Malaysia they still selling carb version... i think they won't bring in EFI model to Msia..dunno why...Limited Edition for 2010 also not selling here laugh.gif
For more info, u should join Ninja250r Msia forum HERE
U can have lots of info's in there...and also a lot of aftemarket parts they got from Indon..quite cheap..looking forward to see u with ur bike icon_rolleyes.gif
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thx bro, kawi 250R is the only one that gives the biggest band out of my limited budget.

carbs are ok too, but still i prefer the injecton x_x

thats a very good link, gotta dig into it right away. im quite surprised that indon now produce so many 250R parts especially for appearance mod. m'sia is sure lacking comparing to them :/
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make sure you wont craving for more power after you got the small ninja, or 250R wont last you for long biggrin.gif
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everyone likes the bigger (or the biggest) bike, im no exception. As in reality, everyone dreamed to drive a bmw, if not a ferrari, but most of us ended up with a persona or myvi.

for now im getting a practical bike based on my financial capability & current needs, im not buying a fancy litre bike for track racing, showing off or drawing chicks attention.

trust me, i know what im doing. thx for the advice tho.
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how about 2nd hand bike?

zxr 250cc

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its a powerful 250 bike compared to the latest 250r. but 250 with 4 cylinders and 16valve..the parts is too small thus leading to reliability issue. cry.gif
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QUOTE(theanswer @ Apr 19 2010, 11:12 PM)
its a powerful 250 bike compared to the latest 250r. but 250 with 4 cylinders and 16valve..the parts is too small thus leading to reliability issue.  cry.gif
what issues? no issues over here. the problem does not come from the bike, i assure you. it's always the owner.

maintenance is the main thing here. every bike treat like whore oso won last long.

treat it like your youngest child, no prob will come meh!
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i have no doubt, last time the 250 was much better with 4 cylinders. feel like superbike too. definitely going to get this one when i got my license!
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QUOTE(VarioCam @ Apr 20 2010, 08:32 AM)
what issues? no issues over here. the problem does not come from the bike, i assure you. it's always the owner.

maintenance is the main thing here. every bike treat like whore oso won last long.

treat it like your youngest child, no prob will come meh!
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YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!! biggrin.gif
I have had my ZXR250 for more than 2 years now, it rides like a dream, hehe... I only let my one trusted SBK mechanic maintain it, quality advice, quality oils & lubricants + parts, etc... It is indeed more powerful than the 250r (and sounds much much better too!) but the 250r is NEW and has a wide appeal due to more modern & practical approach to its design.

Yamato - given your situation, it looks like you will not go wrong with the 250r. But I have a feeling you might 'outgrow' the bike in just a few short months (if not weeks), many do, and end up selling their 250r for a bigger bike. You might really want to consider forking out a little more $$ and go for the ER6f (or ER6n), it equally as practical & behaves very much like the 250r, except that it is more powerful & heavier, & bigger. They all run on similiar engine configurations - liquid colled DOHC parallel twin, and thus sound the same...
Give it some further thinking, ride safe, and all the best to you!!
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uh, I have a question..
why is that I cant find any new suzuki GSX-R 600-750 in mudah? but so many yamaha R6 and kawasaki ZX-6R. where's the GSX-R? doh.gif
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QUOTE(tictac @ Apr 10 2010, 07:30 PM)
how about 2nd hand bike?

zxr 250cc

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This one is much better than the stripped of Kawasaki ninja 250R biggrin.gif
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dude seriously

Iam an er6n rider and i can tell you it is better to go straight to 650cc compared to 250cc..

250cc is completely underpowered, the topspeed is the same as 1.3l car... not worth it..

The er6n on the other hand has very fast acceleration 0-100kmh 3.8s..
and a nice top speed of 210kmh stock.. and it will accelerate to 190kmh effortless making cars on highways looks like kapchais haha

and plus it has a fabulous FC too 10sen per KM...
but ninja is better in this but you will get a slower bike

BTW i my former bike was zzr 250 which is the bike in my avatar so i know what it's like to ride a 250..

haha just my 2 cents

The only downside of ninja250r and er6n is expensive tyres/chain + sprockets and insurance...

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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Apr 21 2010, 11:51 AM)
250cc is completely underpowered, the topspeed is the same as 1.3l car... not worth it..

The er6n on the other hand has very fast acceleration 0-100kmh 3.8s..
and a nice top speed of 210kmh stock.. and it will accelerate to 190kmh effortless making cars on highways looks like kapchais haha
not flaming anyone, but which 250cc you're referring to lerr?
a zxr 250's acceleration is by all means not that great, but on traffic light sprints i reckon can keep up wif any 2.0cc if i want to.

2 stroke 250cc lagi lerr.. tongue.gif

here's my li'l pocket rocket, btw. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(VarioCam @ Apr 21 2010, 12:13 PM)
not flaming anyone, but which 250cc you're referring to lerr?
a zxr 250's acceleration is by all means not that great, but on traffic light sprints i reckon can keep up wif any 2.0cc if i want to.

2 stroke 250cc lagi lerr..    tongue.gif

here's my li'l pocket rocket, btw. tongue.gif
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nice zx2 bro
all 4t 250cc.. im not insulting 250cc riders but if u have ridden bigger CCs bikes u will feel as i do...
once i have tried my frens cbr 929 and it's acceleration was insane and after that when i went back to my bike i felt that 650cc acceleration is slow haha.. just my 2 cents

btw i dun care which bike u ride as long as we are all bikers ..


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oh noes, ts take the new 250 .... not only sounds not nice, but rather small and short not speedy enough, better take dtracker coz its taller and look bigger


Added on April 21, 2010, 12:30 pmit look like sport bike but doesnt sound like sportbike and does not goes like one though, why not opt for d tracker ?

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QUOTE(enjoice @ Apr 21 2010, 12:27 PM)
oh noes, ts take the new 250 .... not only sounds not nice, but rather small and short not speedy enough, better take dtracker coz its taller and look bigger


Added on April 21, 2010, 12:30 pmit look like sport bike but doesnt sound like sportbike and does not goes like one though, why not opt for d tracker ?
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ninja 250r is still not bad but the only problem is the acceleration...
but the dtracker is a bit overpriced la for me.. 24k, add 8k more and ull get er6n or er6f which is way better.
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Apr 21 2010, 12:23 PM)
nice zx2 bro
all 4t 250cc.. im not insulting 250cc riders but if u have ridden bigger CCs bikes u will feel as i do...
once i have tried my frens cbr 929 and it's acceleration was insane and after that when i went back to my bike i felt that 650cc acceleration is slow haha.. just my 2 cents

btw i dun care which bike u ride as long as we are all bikers ..
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no offense taken. i own a 750 oso, difference in acceleration is night and day. tongue.gif

only TS can decide wad he wan mehh. gud commuter like the ER6 series really would do nicely!
if we suggest zx10R he might consider quit biking after a test-ride rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Apr 21 2010, 12:32 PM)
ninja 250r is still not bad but the only problem is the acceleration...
but the dtracker is a bit overpriced la for me.. 24k, add 8k more and ull get er6n or er6f which is way better.
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lol, 8 k more to get er 6n if can afford 35 k bike then why not add 10 + k to get better 600 cc bike ...

i was thinking to get d tracker, shud i add 8 k more to get er 6n, that means i have to save another 6 more months and monthly payment will be like hell ... shakehead.gif


Added on April 21, 2010, 12:55 pmi like the er6n coz abit fast and the head lamp, so big that if two ride side by side u gonna think its a truck behind u.

I dont like it coz the engine/exhaust sound, sound weak, that kind of sound i rather have supermoto sound or ducati 916 sound

will easily do 180 kmh




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First saw er6n in 2003 even than malaysian ppl dont even know er6n exist, saw it from the leet stunter, angyal zoltan.

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QUOTE(enjoice @ Apr 21 2010, 12:39 PM)
lol, 8 k more to get er 6n if can afford 35 k bike then why not add 10 + k to get better 600 cc bike ...

i was thinking to get d tracker, shud i add 8 k more to get er 6n, that means i have to save another 6 more months and monthly payment will be like hell ...  shakehead.gif


Added on April 21, 2010, 12:55 pmi like the er6n coz abit fast and the head lamp, so big that if two ride side by side u gonna think its a truck behind u.

I dont like it coz the engine/exhaust sound, sound weak, that kind of sound i rather have supermoto sound or ducati 916 sound

will easily do 180 kmh


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First saw er6n in 2003 even than malaysian ppl dont even know er6n exist, saw it from the leet stunter, angyal zoltan.

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or better just buy second hand er6n.. 09 model second hand price is about 27~28k oni...

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I dont like it coz the engine/exhaust sound, sound weak, that kind of sound i rather have supermoto sound or ducati 916 sound
ducati sound makes me steam ohh hehe tongue.gif
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or better just buy second hand er6n.. 09 model second hand price is about 27~28k oni...
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hmm... why is everyone talking bad about kawi 250R?
this started to worry me if i make the right choice earlier. hmm.gif

performance is always the main concern, but comparing a 250 with a 650 totally unfair.

i have heard valuable comment from owners of blade 250, er6n, zx2, etc. Now i wish there are 250R owners that can share his experience here.
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QUOTE(VarioCam @ Apr 20 2010, 08:32 AM)
what issues? no issues over here. the problem does not come from the bike, i assure you. it's always the owner.

maintenance is the main thing here. every bike treat like whore oso won last long.

treat it like your youngest child, no prob will come meh!
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the issue i mean is when comparing with latest 250r. thats the reason why kawa come out with twin engine 250r(already been use with zzr and el250)..if the 4 cylinders were 'that' good..why they stop producing it. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(yamato @ Apr 24 2010, 09:49 AM)
hmm... why is everyone talking bad about kawi 250R?
this started to worry me if i make the right choice earlier. hmm.gif

performance is always the main concern, but comparing a 250 with a 650 totally unfair.

i have heard valuable comment from owners of blade 250, er6n, zx2, etc. Now i wish there are 250R owners that can share his experience here.
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never heard anything bad abt 250r except it's a beginners bike..the design look decent enuff for starter or ppl why doesnt need speed. rclxms.gif

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how much is the insurance & roadtax for 250 & 650cc respectively?
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The only downside of ninja250r and er6n is expensive tyres/chain + sprockets and insurance...
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I believe one can only expect to pay for parts like tyres, chains, sprockets, etc since these aren't kapchais...
It's like buying a Kancil or BMW, performance comes with a price. smile.gif
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yea, its more like a weekend bike, so low mileage = less scheduled maintenance.. haha
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I also would like to get kawa 250r...... I don't really need speed.... Just want to have a good bike that suits my body size 164cm and 90kg (fatty)...


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QUOTE(pokjak @ Oct 24 2010, 09:49 PM)
I also would like to get kawa 250r...... I don't really need speed.... Just want to have a good bike that suits my body size 164cm and 90kg (fatty)...
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same here, speed is not my concern. i dont think imma bring it onto the highway. usually when i travel that far, i would be driving my car instead.

as today, my dept (car loan) already cleared. & my plan to get a baby ninja has never faded. however i have changed my mind abit, i would get a used carb by next year, coz it would cheaper by 1-2k consider the machine is a year older ;p

then i would spare some cash for an aftermarket exhaust, or maybe repaint it white, powdercoat rims.

anyway, the bike sales personal told me that the injection can go up to 200kmh, not like the carb that top at 170kmh. i wonder if thats true? hmm.gif
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yeah. that would be a good move. by then, lots of 250r price range jaz between 15-16k. u can say all kawasaki owners who let go of their baby really take care em really damn well. so its quite safe to say, u aren't gambling n wont regret buying a used 250r. Coz i'm riding one. hehe.
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heyhey, ninja owner, nice! what year is urs? u bought it new or used? if used, what clock(km) in what price?

share us ur thought & experience about the bike, i havent been riding much since 2003, would like to hear some from you wink.gif


Added on October 26, 2010, 8:17 pma ninja 250r review, one of a kind.

Himalayas tour on a ninja

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we share the same situation brutha..yea i might get myself a ninja 250r soon..thanks for this thread
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Alright just in time! was looking at naza blade and kawasaki ninja, now i decided to go for HONDA CBR250, got the look and its more reliable than NAZA. tongue.gif
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is honda cbr250 out yet? i dont think so ..

http://www.gofurtherwithhonda.com/event.html

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well but are you getting this year? Im planning to get a bike next year around Feb or March. haha i hope they are out by then.
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ah ic. yea it should be out by then then.
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QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 25 2010, 10:15 PM)
heyhey, ninja owner, nice! what year is urs? u bought it new or used? if used, what clock(km) in what price?

share us ur thought & experience about the bike, i havent been riding much since 2003, would like to hear some from you wink.gif


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Mine is year 2009, bought it on April, mileage clock was 20k, n price is Rm17.5k at Welly Batu Caves. These place is highly recommended. Its a used bike tho. And i'm the 2nd owner.

Well, after i got my bike on the first day, i already change the muffler into AHM carbon. U can say the original setting was very...dull. So to add some fun, i need a good sound coming from my bikes. and AHM did really pull it off.. it sounded more like easy rider compare to superbike tho... not sure if u guys like that kind of setting. Well most people prefer Yoshimura. It have this higher note sound. Not that it sounded like 600cc superbike above.. laugh.gif

N did some test at Genting. My bike sometimes semput or not that powerful when it comes to climbing Genting road.. u know Carbs rite? If its an Injection model, it would be a diff story already. The RPM meter when i rev it to the metal, it will stuck to 9k..while evyone else gets 10-12k... maximum is 14k.. i went to Genting with this outcome for almost a month, once a week. Always kena tinggal one..coz slow. haha. damn 250.

only solution would be changing the whole pipes into FUll system. that cost me Rm450. Total change including muffler was Rm1.3k. I did it at NKS Sentul thumbup.gif
n the result of the performance... is so bloody diff. u can say if i go head to head drag with another 250, i can tinggal him like 1 tiang or 2. Changing into full system really gets all those sleepy RPM into WORKS! N that time, Genting was fun. Going to uphill ofcoz. Downhill is diff story coz it really tears off ur balls. One wrong move, could be fatal. haha...

N afta a while, i change back the whole thing into original setting. Its all becoz i live a peaceful and silent neighbourhood (Hartamas) n that exhaust is damn one of a annoyance. Its too LOUD. Well, since i did rasa all those racing n thrill at Genting, i dun really mind taking it off and start to ride slow onwards. n i really did. But, somehow, the fun is diff. I mean, u can say the original setting are definitely Better. Smooth, not so loud and feels jaz nice. Best thing is? In my 5 months of owning the bike, it never breakdown, gives a crap or ROSAK at all.

Kawasaki definitely a good choice notworthy.gif

If u guys arranging a TT, i might as well join u. If u guys wanna go to Genting, no problem. Its been a while since i go there brows.gif

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is honda cbr250 out yet? i dont think so ..

http://www.gofurtherwithhonda.com/event.html
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still no latest news about CBR250R coming to Malaysia...
but you can check the picture first.. drool.gif

http://world.honda.com/CBR250R/?r=rR
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Oct 30 2010, 12:25 AM)
still no latest news about CBR250R coming to Malaysia...
but you can check the picture first.. drool.gif

http://world.honda.com/CBR250R/?r=rR
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satu piston je???sedih bce...klu ninja 250r org kte bunyi mesin jahit singer,ni bunyi ape plak?
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QUOTE(ridox_orimabu @ Oct 29 2010, 11:36 AM)
Mine is year 2009, bought it on April, mileage clock was 20k, n price is Rm17.5k at Welly Batu Caves. These place is highly recommended. Its a used bike tho. And i'm the 2nd owner.

Well, after i got my bike on the first day, i already change the muffler into AHM carbon. U can say the original setting was very...dull. So to add some fun, i need a good sound coming from my bikes. and AHM did really pull it off.. it sounded more like easy rider compare to superbike tho... not sure if u guys like that kind of setting. Well most people prefer Yoshimura. It have this higher note sound. Not that it sounded like 600cc superbike above.. laugh.gif

N did some test at Genting. My bike sometimes semput or not that powerful when it comes to climbing Genting road.. u know Carbs rite? If its an Injection model, it would be a diff story already. The RPM meter when i rev it to the metal, it will stuck to 9k..while evyone else gets 10-12k... maximum is 14k.. i went to Genting with this outcome for almost a month, once a week. Always kena tinggal one..coz slow. haha. damn 250.

only solution would be changing the whole pipes into FUll system. that cost me Rm450. Total change including muffler was Rm1.3k. I did it at NKS Sentul  thumbup.gif
n the result of the performance... is so bloody diff. u can say if i go head to head drag with another 250, i can tinggal him like 1 tiang or 2. Changing into full system really gets all those sleepy RPM into WORKS! N that time, Genting was fun. Going to uphill ofcoz. Downhill is diff story coz it really tears off ur balls. One wrong move, could be fatal. haha...

N afta a while, i change back the whole thing into original setting. Its all becoz i live a peaceful and silent neighbourhood (Hartamas) n that exhaust is damn one of a annoyance. Its too LOUD. Well, since i did rasa all those racing n thrill at Genting, i dun really mind taking it off and start to ride slow onwards. n i really did. But, somehow, the fun is diff. I mean, u can say the original setting are definitely Better. Smooth, not so loud and feels jaz nice. Best thing is? In my 5 months of owning the bike, it never breakdown, gives a crap or ROSAK at all.

Kawasaki definitely a good choice  notworthy.gif

If u guys arranging a TT, i might as well join u. If u guys wanna go to Genting, no problem. Its been a while since i go there  brows.gif
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fantastic feedback! have been waited so long for input from ninja owner.
where is AHM made? did u go jetting after changing the full system? torque & top speed both increase?

thx
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in term of top speed, should be ninja.
0-100m sprint? idk ;p
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post Oct 30 2010, 01:39 PM

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post Oct 30 2010, 01:53 PM

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aiyoh from the looks of it ninja 250r it better than cbr..
coz ninja got wider front and back rims..
2 pot engine..
top speed is with ninja 250r due to its higher redline at 13000 rpm compared to 10500 for the cbr but
acceleration wise the cbr should be faster as it can produce more torque hmm.gif

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Cbr 250r is such a looker !!!!.Hopefully when BoonSiew bring this baby in, it wouldn't cost much like Ninja. Fingers crossed....
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hey any news when the cbr250rr is comin in .
i hope they have competitive pricing for this bike , looks nice , dunno hows the speed though , hope its faster than ninja 250r XD


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blade 250 injection OTR RM14,784.70

blade 250R injection OTR RM17,455.50

so far i only saw the white colour units at the naza showroom at kg baru. was told red is on the way. what i really like was the restyled rear giving it a much more 'today' look.

any riding impressions out there so far?
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What the different below the prices !!! hmm.gif
Extra R stand for ? blush.gif

blade 250 injection OTR RM14,784.70

blade 250R injection OTR RM17,455.50


QUOTE(lowpro @ Nov 12 2010, 10:31 AM)
blade 250 injection OTR RM14,784.70

blade 250R injection OTR RM17,455.50

so far i only saw the white colour units at the naza showroom at kg baru. was told red is on the way. what i really like was the restyled rear giving it a much more 'today' look.

any riding impressions out there so far?
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Oct 30 2010, 12:25 AM)
still no latest news about CBR250R coming to Malaysia...
but you can check the picture first.. drool.gif

http://world.honda.com/CBR250R/?r=rR
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that looks more like the cbr150 that is sold in thailand with an aftermarket muffler. here's the site for the new cbr150:

http://www.aphonda.co.th/product/allnew_cbr_150r/index.asp


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What the different below the prices !!! hmm.gif
Extra R stand for ? blush.gif

blade 250 injection OTR RM14,784.70

blade 250R injection OTR RM17,455.50

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the one without the 'r' is for the naked street bike with only one front disc brake. the 'r' is for the full fairing version with lower handlebars and twon front disc brakes.

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post Nov 28 2010, 04:13 PM

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Get a used Naza blade 650R for around 20k.

Got sufficient power for all types of ride (70HP v twin engine) hence no need to upgrade later and etc etc...but have to take B full ler...

Saying this coz I am a user and very satisfied with it smile.gif
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Oct 30 2010, 01:53 PM)
aiyoh from the looks of it ninja 250r it better than cbr..
coz ninja got wider front and back rims..
2 pot engine..
top speed is with ninja 250r due to its higher redline at 13000 rpm compared to 10500 for the cbr but
acceleration wise the cbr should be faster as it can produce more torque  hmm.gif
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FYI, CBR 250r got a wider rims than the ninja for both front and rear rim. Maybe Ninja is faster than the CBR, that is because it produce more hp than the CBR not because it rev higher shakehead.gif . EX: Mazda Rx-8 can rev higher than a Lamborghini Gallardo would but does that mean it is faster ? (I think what you type is typo tongue.gif )
Agree with you about the acceleration. icon_rolleyes.gif laugh.gif
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250cc four stroke sport bikes aren't that fun, the acceleration aren't big enough and the maintenance of these things jumped exponentially from normal 150cc four stroke bikes.

Naza Blade reliability sucks, the QC is bad too. Every bikes have different feel implying that the assembly is not standardized.

Best sportbike under rm20k for the "fun" is still the new 150cc KIPS 2 stroke, I think about rm10k. Acceleration is bigger than the 250cc four stroke sport bikes. It got around the same horsepower abd the whole bike is lighter, don't get fooled of those wide and big tires, smaller bikes tend to go faster in corners.

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luv the cbr250,gonna get it when release here later instead of ninja icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(masz94 @ Nov 30 2010, 05:08 AM)
FYI, CBR 250r got a wider rims than the ninja for both front and rear rim. Maybe Ninja is faster than the CBR, that is because it produce more hp than the CBR not because it rev higher  shakehead.gif . EX: Mazda Rx-8 can rev higher than a Lamborghini Gallardo would but does that mean it is faster ? (I think what you type is typo  tongue.gif )
Agree with you about the acceleration.  icon_rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif
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you're comparing cars of different power and displacement but both of these bikes put about the same power and the same displacement
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Dec 15 2010, 08:42 AM)
you're comparing cars of different power and displacement but both of these bikes put about the same power and the same displacement
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tgk cara type pon mcm budak bro nod.gif

why bother comparing something that is still not available in our market?
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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Dec 15 2010, 10:15 PM)
tgk cara type pon mcm budak bro nod.gif

why bother comparing something that is still not available in our market?
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why boon siew is still slow poking in bringing these bikes here..
i want to see more competition in the 250cc market.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Dec 16 2010, 08:30 AM)
why boon siew is still slow poking in bringing these bikes here..
i want to see more competition in the 250cc market..  brows.gif
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THey busy selling Wave 125 R without electric starter ler doh.gif
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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Dec 16 2010, 12:33 PM)
THey busy selling Wave 125 R without electric starter ler  doh.gif
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yalor, they even stop the production of cbr150r even when thailand is still producing it.. doh.gif
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post Dec 17 2010, 12:53 PM

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i dont think cbr150r sell that well in local market comparing to thai, could that be the reason boonsiew stop producing them?

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post Feb 27 2011, 12:42 AM

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sifus, wat is the main difference between ER6N and ER6F?
I am considering getting one. is 2nd hand one ok?

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wait...are u sure ninja 250 its a injection...cheak again...
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QUOTE(scoop7 @ Feb 27 2011, 12:42 AM)
sifus, wat is the main difference between ER6N and ER6F?
I am considering getting one. is 2nd hand one ok?
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just the body, one is Naked, another is Fairing


QUOTE(amie_the_fakes3 @ Feb 27 2011, 12:14 PM)
wait...are u sure ninja 250 its a injection...cheak again...
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yes, new ninja 250 is FI. check again..
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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Feb 27 2011, 03:05 PM)
just the body, one is Naked, another is Fairing

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thank you sifu. now i just realized.

any idea how much 2nd hand? i know new one is about 33k
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08 er6n should be around 24k
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Honda cbr 250

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CBR looks cool me likey
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CBR looks cool me likey
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me orderd d. wil receive in april... yay.
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QUOTE(accitzone @ Mar 1 2011, 04:37 PM)
me orderd d. wil receive in april... yay.
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Is it possible to ask Bon Siew to import VTR250 for those who want that bike?

any other alternative to get that bike?
what are the cost and procedures in order to import that bike by our own selves?
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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Feb 28 2011, 10:55 PM)
08 er6n should be around 24k
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found one ER-6N 2009 going for RM23k.
seems like a good bargain. is it?

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QUOTE(Apache32 @ Mar 16 2011, 01:30 AM)
Is it possible to ask Bon Siew to import VTR250 for those who want that bike?

any other alternative to get that bike?
what are the cost and procedures in order to import that bike by our own selves?
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ask boon siew? distributor wont import one off items.

u can try grey importer, NAZA etc.
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QUOTE(scoop7 @ Mar 23 2011, 01:49 PM)
found one ER-6N 2009 going for RM23k.
seems like a good bargain. is it?
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my colleague just sold his er6n 2010 >12mths for rm24k sweat.gif
but selling price is of coz higher than buying.
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QUOTE(yamato @ Mar 26 2011, 10:32 AM)
my colleague just sold his er6n 2010 >12mths for rm24k  sweat.gif
but selling price is of coz higher than buying.
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now tis a good buy
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Apr 11 2010, 02:50 AM)
If speed is not the main concern, kawa 250r is a good choice. It can go up to 170/180 and i think its already enough for cruising on highways.the seating position also quite relaxing as it is actually a sport tourer, so ur body will be on quite an upright position.

If u want something cheaper maybe u can try naza blade 250r. those early model had some QC issues but the new 1 has improved. i'm using one and satisfied with it. but it's quite hard to find spareparts and aftermarket parts if u are not in KL  smile.gif
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Hi guys,

I'm very much in the same position as Yamato here with about the same budget, and looking at about the same bikes. Having said that, I don't mind going for a 2nd hand with some guidance.

My main consideration is this :-
I've rode 150cc 2 stroke bikes in my younger days (RXZ- 135cc and a Suzuki Gama - 150cc). These bikes could do 160-180km/h, and i can handle them quite well.

My research shows that 250cc bikes like the Ninja or the Honda CBR can do about the same speed as the 2 stroke 150cc. Is this true?

I was hoping that to do 200++. I could easily do 160 in my car so I don't think it will be exciting / fun to ride. What is the use of having a fierce looking superbike if a RXZ or Suzuki could pose a serious threat?

If I go straight to a bigger bike like a 600cc, will I be able to handle the power?

Thanks guys.
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QUOTE(anand0412 @ Jun 18 2013, 05:15 PM)
Hi guys,

I'm very much in the same position as Yamato here with about the same budget, and looking at about the same bikes. Having said that, I don't mind going for a 2nd hand with some guidance. 

My main consideration is this :-
I've rode 150cc 2 stroke bikes in my younger days (RXZ- 135cc and a Suzuki Gama - 150cc). These bikes could do 160-180km/h, and i can handle them quite well.

My research shows that 250cc bikes like the Ninja or the Honda CBR can do about the same speed as the 2 stroke 150cc. Is this true?

I was hoping that to do 200++. I could easily do 160 in my car so I don't think it will be exciting / fun to ride. What is the use of having a fierce looking superbike if a RXZ or Suzuki could pose a serious threat?

If I go straight to a bigger bike like a 600cc, will I be able to handle the power?

Thanks guys.
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It looks like u r intor speed. You should go for >600cc. 250s will not be able to satisfy your thirst for speed. I have owned ninja 250 and er6n. ninja 250r could not reach 160.. Maybe a few mod here and there.. Road condition bla bla..

Er6n can reach 160 ++ but the wind blast is bloody strong. If put windshield, will help a bit but not much. Bear in mind it s a naked bike. Versys might be able to do it but it is not for speed demon.

So, go for superbike but try to tame urself first in handling the bike. I am sure you will be able handle the speed after awhile.

Just my humble advise no matter what bike you get, be humble on the road no matter what bike u r riding and also no matter how much is ur bike. There are no price tag for life. So, appreciate other ppl's life on the road and also ur life.


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thanks ivanlim84,

I'm convinced i need a 600cc at least. Just not sure which one to get.
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600 cc is pricy wor.
i prefer kawasaki of any model as i rode few kawa scramblers and trailers before.
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Jun 19 2013, 02:37 PM)
600 cc is pricy wor.
i prefer kawasaki of any model as i rode few kawa scramblers and trailers before.
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I'm looking at a new Naza Blade 650 or a used ER6-n / ER6-f .... its kinda hard to make a decision. I love the CBR600RR but its way out of my budget.
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how bout xj6?
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QUOTE(ivanlim84 @ Jun 19 2013, 01:17 PM)
It looks like u r intor speed. You should go for >600cc. 250s will not be able to satisfy your thirst for speed. I have owned ninja 250 and er6n. ninja 250r could not reach 160.. Maybe a few mod here and there.. Road condition bla bla.. 

Er6n can reach 160 ++ but the wind blast is bloody strong. If put windshield, will help a bit but not much. Bear in mind it s a naked bike. Versys might be able to do it but it is not for speed demon.

So, go for superbike but try to tame urself first in handling the bike. I am sure you will be able handle the speed after awhile.

Just my humble advise no matter what bike you get, be humble on the road no matter what bike u r riding and also no matter how much is ur bike. There are no price tag for life. So, appreciate other ppl's life on the road and also ur life.
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Thanks for the info.. I'm a safe rider.. only speed on empty roads smile.gif
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Guys,

Between a used ER6f and a brand new Blade 650, which should I go for?

Will I have to spend much on a 1 or 2 year ER6F, i.e. tire change and other wear and tear.

Also, If i were to sell the bike after a year, also taking into account maintenance, which will be a better deal?
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QUOTE(K.H.A.I @ Jun 20 2013, 01:32 AM)
how bout xj6?
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out of my budget bro.. no used one yet
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Benelli TNT 600? its around RM32k OTR.
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QUOTE(anand0412 @ Jun 20 2013, 05:06 PM)
Guys,

Between a used ER6f and a brand new Blade 650, which should I go for?

Will I have to spend much on a 1 or 2 year ER6F, i.e. tire change and other wear and tear.

Also, If i were to sell the bike after a year, also taking into account maintenance, which will be a better deal?
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A lot of ppl say blade got issues. Not sure how real as I was considering 1 as well but after reading a few feedback, I am considering other bikes.

Go for second hand er6f if u have the budget. Try to avoid blade unless u have no choice.

 

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