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Discussion Away goal rule - Should it be abolished?, Fair or unfair?

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TSGolden
post Apr 8 2010, 07:29 PM, updated 16y ago

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I think the away goal rule should be abolished simply because its unfair to the team that score same amount of goals compared to their opponents yet got knocked from the competition.

Yesterday night Man Utd was leading Bayern Munich 3-2, (on 4-4 aggregate). it should be a great win for man utd, unfortunately its not.... simply because bayern munich scored more away goals...

When both teams got the same aggregate, the competition should be continued to extra time and then penalty shootout.. just like the competition in world cup..

I think theres a flaw on away goal rule, the "winner" don't really win "fair and square" by scoring more goals then their opponents. No wonder nobody celebrated the 3-2 win, it just doesn't make sense.

What does everyone else think? Should away goals be abolished?

for those who have no idea what away goal rule is, here is link for explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Away_goals_rule
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post Apr 8 2010, 07:32 PM

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post Apr 8 2010, 07:33 PM

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i am a man utd fan and i am ashame of fans like you

just because the team you support lose and you blame the system?

sigh, no wonder the people who hates man utd grows faster than ever....sigh
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post Apr 8 2010, 07:35 PM

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georgraphical advantages??? Well...Both teams gonna faceit anyway.
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post Apr 8 2010, 07:36 PM

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The away goal rule is one of the geniuses of the UCL.
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post Apr 8 2010, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 8 2010, 07:33 PM)
i am a man utd fan and i am ashame of fans like you

just because the team you support lose and you blame the system?

sigh, no wonder the people who hates man utd grows faster than ever....sigh
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I am not blaming the system... but don't you think drawing on aggregate yet still knocked out from competition a bit not making sense...

it should go into extra time and then penalty shootout... just like most of the competition...


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post Apr 8 2010, 07:43 PM

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No! Just keep the rule smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2010, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Golden @ Apr 8 2010, 07:38 PM)
I am not blaming the system...  but don't you think drawing on aggregate yet still knocked out from competition a bit not making sense...

it should go into extra time and then penalty shootout... just like most of the competition...
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no i dont think so.

okay, lets say the situation reverse, man utd vs bayern, 1st leg at OT where man utd win 2-1

2nd leg at germany where bayern win 3-2

aggregrate is 4-4 and man utd shud had win it due to away goals

however, if there aint any away goals rules, the game will go to extra time and penalty.

and if the upcoming league match man utd lose a game and cost them the EPL title, surely you guys, or even SAF will say that its because of fatique, we play more minutes in CL thus players are tired, we will win if theres the away goals rules....
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post Apr 8 2010, 07:45 PM

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for a team to be able to score more in a foreign stadium than they concede at home is a fair way to determine the tie. Even though i can't remember Man Utd win a tie through away goals (only lose), i think the rule is good since it has been in use for years and years.

I would rather the Goal Line technology to be implemented than to abolish the away goal rule if FIFA or UEFA have another meeting.
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post Apr 8 2010, 07:46 PM

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yes, the goal line tech is really indeed something to be implement


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post Apr 8 2010, 07:50 PM

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There is nothing wrong with the away goal rule. Sure it sucks to get KO-ed by the rule but there's a reason why it was introduced.

In the older European games before the rule was introduced almost every away team tend to just set up shop, park the bus and aim for a clean sheet. The rule was introduced to encourage away teams to go for the jugular and try to get a goal. This in turn creates more open games and more excitement for spectators.
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post Apr 8 2010, 07:53 PM

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n the reason is becos manu lose?.doh.gif

anyway i dont see anything wrong wit the current system, it is perfect the way it is..if the opposition scored away goals, it put pressure on the other team to perform n not trying to b defensive all the way..isnt that wat we all want?..nice attacking game of football smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2010, 07:53 PM

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something ain't broken so no need to fix it.

Yes id sometimes moaned when my team were knockout by away goal rules...but we try not being hypocrite here. Verx did made a point...back to the old days the team dat lead/narrow lead tend to sit back almost entire match. With dis rule...the team dat won narrow at home can went to opponent ground and try to win da match..
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post Apr 8 2010, 07:56 PM

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I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I totally agree with the rule and it has nothing to do with this morning's result. In my opinion, away goals are more valuable than home ones because they are harder to come by. How many teams do you know score more away goals than home ones? How many do you know conceed more at home than away? Not many I reckon.

The away goal rule also serves as an incentive for visiting teams to venture forward. It is logical to think that teams playing away in the 1st half, would approach the game with caution, preferring not to lose rather than to win. Knowing that an away goal is more valuable however, teams have the option of killing the tie off in the first leg. Fortune favours the brave.

Away goals also give teams who have lost at home in the first leg, a chance of making ammends in the 2nd more daunting away leg.

My 2 cents. I think it is a good rule to have.
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Apr 8 2010, 07:52 PM)
LOL. This kind of thread at the appropriate time eh?
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QUOTE(ELm_ELm @ Apr 8 2010, 07:53 PM)
n the reason is  becos manu lose?.doh.gif

anyway i dont see anything wrong wit the current system, it is perfect the way it is..if the opposition scored away goals, it put pressure on the other team to perform n not trying to b defensive all the way..isnt that wat we all want?..nice attacking game of football  smile.gif
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sigh...now i know, why man utd was hated so much so much sad.gif

i always thought arsenal fans do that ( no offense, as this is what my friends does, everytime their team lose, they blame everything but not their players/managers)

but now.......

nice attacking football is good, like arsenal vs barcelona biggrin.gif
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bear in mind there is no perfect or 100% "fair" way to determine winners in such deadlocks. The governing body has to have seomthing to decide the tie and i think the away goal is a good balance - u encourage the away teams not to go to foreign grounds and "sit out a 0-0 draw". The italians of the old were the masters at these. But now, this opens up the match a little (of cos some teams will still do the park-the-bus tactic la).

How is a penalty shootout "fairer"? the amount of luck in that would be greater.
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Apr 8 2010, 07:47 PM)
now man utd lost want to abolish away goal, why so many years the format is like this no complain?
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wenger also complain earlier in the comp when they were going to play in porto.


i voted no btw
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post Apr 8 2010, 08:03 PM

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if wanna blame the rules,,better blame Platini lar cos he is anti english teams.
For the match referee's perfomance,I really think he is followed "someone" order,bayern main kasar & harmful to the opponents, no red cards no player sending off meh???Unbelieveble !!
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 8 2010, 07:56 PM)
sigh...now i know, why man utd was hated so much so much sad.gif

i always thought arsenal fans do that ( no offense, as this is what my friends does, everytime their team lose, they blame everything but not their players/managers)

but now.......

nice attacking football is good, like arsenal vs barcelona biggrin.gif
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i sensed a bit of sarcasm there.. or am i wrong?
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post Apr 8 2010, 08:04 PM

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just like the one point for a draw and three points for a win rule, anything that encourages teams to actually 'play football' is much appreciated laugh.gif

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