Thanks for the info bro. I guess I have to adjust my mindset to for the higher FC as I am mostly city driving with an average 24 km/h . I had already accepted that the car will have higher FC compared to my previous vios but didn't expect to be this much

I thought puchong SC had the worst reputation among all the SC based on previous posts. Have their services improved so much in the past one month?

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This post has been edited by ruth1977: Apr 23 2010, 09:10 AM

Tell your toyota SA about this article and ask him for FULL GUARANTEE that toyota will not depreciate so much. I was a former vios owner and the Forte is a much a better ride. The only thing nicer to me about the vios was FC (which I should not compare as vios is 1.5 and my Forte is 2.0). From the looks of things, the toyota depreciation will sky rocket now if Malaysian mentality can change. Good thing I sold of mine before this article came out


Toyota plummets down Forbes' top companies list



TOKYO — Toyota Motor, beset by huge safety recalls and a host of lawsuits over deaths linked to its cars, tumbled from third to 360th[[U] on the annual Forbes list of the world's leading companies.

The car maker trailed far behind rivals Ford, Honda, and Hyundai in the 2010 listing, which ranks 2,000 of the world's best corporate performers based on an equal weighting of sales, profits, assets and market value.

Toyota ranked third last year and 10th five years ago.

US car makers General Motors and Chrysler, which are currently turning around their businesses after filing for bankruptcy protection last year, were absent from the list.

Germany's Daimler was ranked 388th and Volkswagen dropped off the list due to the complexity surrounding its 2009 merger with Porsche.

Toyota, which dethroned General Motors as the world's biggest car maker in 2008, has recalled around 10 million vehicles worldwide due to accelerator and brake defects, which have been blamed for 58 deaths in the US.

In the latest blow, international ratings agency Moody's Thursday downgraded the beleaguered car maker because of uncertainty over "product quality" potentially hitting sales following the mass recalls.

Earlier this week the company agreed to pay a 16.4-million-dollar fine, the largest for a car maker in the United States, for hiding for at least four months accelerator pedal defects blamed in the US deaths.

Toyota is facing at least 97 US lawsuits seeking damages for injury or death linked to sudden acceleration and 138 class action lawsuits from American customers suing to recoup losses in the resale value of Toyota vehicles.

Despite the world financial crisis, banks still dominated the list with 308 lenders in the lineup, mainly thanks to their assets, said Forbes Magazine which compiles the list.

US investment giant JP Morgan Chase topped the list, removing General Electric from the number one spot.

Forbes said its top 2,000 companies account for 30 trillion dollars in revenue, 1.4 trillion dollars in profits, 124 trillion dollars in assets and 31 trillion dollars in market value, up 61 percent from the previous year.










So, after reading the article, you still want to buy Toyota?

This post has been edited by ruth1977: Apr 23 2010, 11:00 AM

Empty barrels makes the most noise and the "monkey"' barrel is as deep as black hole. So Fortezens, lets us all unite and stick to discussing our beloved Forte and completely ignore and not respond to the monyet post

P/S: The monyet I am refering is "7" and not our bro iz

This post has been edited by ruth1977: Apr 23 2010, 04:12 PM

5 minutes to go for Driven BTW, I have just tested the shiftronic and when the power in 2nd gear is CARGASMIC . I just want to ask what are the ideal or recommended speed and rpm for each gear (1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th). Sorry if sounding like a noob but I never had a manual car and I do not want to spoil the gearbox with my abuse and lack of knowledge on the shiftronic function

This post has been edited by ruth1977: May 2 2010, 10:27 PM

Thanks bro StarGhazzer, I have a better understanding of the shiftronic and know what to watch out for . Plan to do a few more shiftronic "experiment" later. When I first used it, I shifted from 3rd to 2nd. So therefore, for downshifting, any tips for speed and rpm?


Thanks bro kfc. I will pm you for the "shiftronic" tuition once I have done my 1st service on May 15 (appointment set by Mr. Arul of Puchong), although lets call it a quick course and not a crash course as the word "crash" makes me . Anyway as I am going for 1st service, just want to get Fortezens input on which oil to go for. Read the "break-in" article earlier and mentioned that some cars are already breaked at 1000 km and some after 5-6 km. Hence, planning to go for semi-synth for 1st to make sure proper break-in done and fully synth subsequently. Heard that fully synth has better FC than mineral or semi-synth. So what do you Fortezens think/recommend for oil change for 1st and subsequent services?