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post Apr 6 2010, 05:04 PM, updated 16y ago

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Im mostly into Recon so sniping is my main skill.. to the head.
In PS3, BFBC2 Beta, the sniper bullet arch.. the bullet drop on distance which make it fun cause i can shoot people hiding behind walls at a certian angle. But in BFBC2 for the PC, the bullet goes straight, i do mean straight like the dot on my scope.

1. Does BFBC2 need PHYSX by Nvidia card? sad.gif

2. I use HD5870 ATI mean i dont have PHYSX. unsure.gif

3. Any option so can turn on the bullet arch or its own "PHYSX"? cry.gif

Anyone can help? Especially one using the Nvidia GPU. Are your sniper bullet drop in distance?
Just wanna find out.



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post Apr 6 2010, 05:39 PM

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eem just to remind u physx card is not designed to do physic calculation. its more to partical rendering and eyecandy details.

the bullet drop dont need sophiticated hardware to calculate. dice has made it simple for a single core to run.

for the bullet drop thing, i m pretty sure its the same for consoles and pc. i played it on pc and x360, and its the same, other than the its very buggy on pc.
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post Apr 6 2010, 06:55 PM

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But i played it on the PS3. I can see the bullet drop but when i bought for the PC.. it was straight. I thought they port this stuff to the PC. Maybe, i should Q&A the EA regarding this un-port bullet drop.


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post Apr 6 2010, 07:08 PM

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got bullet drop.
once i played with bullet drop to kill a sniper hiding behind a hill biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Miri-Sarawak @ Apr 6 2010, 06:55 PM)
But i played it on the PS3. I can see the bullet drop but when i bought for the PC.. it was straight. I thought they port this stuff to the PC. Maybe, i should Q&A the EA regarding this un-port bullet drop.
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there is bullet drop, after i pressed the left mouse button to shot, hold the left mouse button and dont move, then you will see the bullet drop, if you want more obvious bullet drop, get a semi-auto sniper rifle or M24 equipped it with 12x optic then try some long range shot, the drop will be more obvious

M24 with 12x optic without magnum can drop up to 3 mil dot in arica harbor from attacker base to the tower at the hilltop in defender base
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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 6 2010, 07:16 PM)
there is bullet drop, after i pressed the left mouse button to shot, hold the left mouse button and dont move, then you will see the bullet drop, if you want more obvious bullet drop, get a semi-auto sniper rifle or M24 equipped it with 12x optic then try some long range shot, the drop will be more obvious

M24 with 12x optic without magnum can drop up to 3 mil dot in arica harbor from attacker base to the tower at the hilltop in defender base
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once i was using M24 with 12X optic, got 2 attacking snipers hiding behind the rocks on the very far end. all i kasi bunuh, but must aim higher, so the bullet does arc. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Apr 6 2010, 07:19 PM)
once i was using M24 with 12X optic, got 2 attacking snipers hiding behind the rocks on the very far end. all i kasi bunuh, but must aim higher, so the bullet does arc.  rclxms.gif
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i thought M2 is better? tongue.gif
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post Apr 6 2010, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 6 2010, 07:24 PM)
i thought M2 is better? tongue.gif
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wats a M2?
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post Apr 6 2010, 07:30 PM

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This is where the scope with many triangles come in handy.under certain longer range,u no longer cn rely on the 1st triangle

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 6 2010, 07:28 PM)
wats a M2?
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i only long to play M95 or M24, other sniper rifles are meh ~ shakehead.gif
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post Apr 6 2010, 07:38 PM

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i prefer GOL
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post Apr 6 2010, 07:42 PM

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Any sniper rifle is same to me actually,as long as i get a headshot,its a kill.except for those semi autos.i used the t88 once and ditch it,same for sv98 short.cnt get used to the recoils
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 6 2010, 07:42 PM)
Any sniper rifle is same to me actually,as long as i get a headshot,its a kill.except for those semi autos.i used the t88 once and ditch it,same for sv98 short.cnt get used to the recoils
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its the opposite in CSS, u get a Commando u can str8 kill guys with a headshot thru double doors laugh.gif
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M24 + MGNM AM sudah...!
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 6 2010, 07:42 PM)
Any sniper rifle is same to me actually,as long as i get a headshot,its a kill.except for those semi autos.i used the t88 once and ditch it,same for sv98 short.cnt get used to the recoils
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i use those as assault rifles, stick on red dot and attack, well i forced myself to use them just to get the bronze stars tongue.gif
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i love that snaiperskaya... no really...
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Good to use in mid or close combat.but if u wanna snipe far,u will fuuuuuuuu


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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Apr 6 2010, 07:52 PM)
i love that snaiperskaya... no really...
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Short or the normal.i love the normal,but meh for short

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 6 2010, 07:52 PM)
Good to use in mid or close combat.but if u wanna snipe far,u will fuuuuuuuu
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thats why if u read the description for one of the 'sniper' rifles...it says its more of a marksman rifle...so nothing too far tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 6 2010, 07:30 PM)
This is where the scope with many triangles come in handy.under certain longer range,u no longer cn rely on the 1st triangle
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triangle no good la, actually mil dot is the best for me if they got no barrel wander, the crosshair in gol is good for short and medium, super far range you need estimation, while mil dot is good for long range because of the dot, you can have a rough estimation, same goes to the triangle, but triangle got no vertical and horizontal line like the one in gol and mil dot.

QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 6 2010, 07:52 PM)
Good to use in mid or close combat.but if u wanna snipe far,u will fuuuuuuuu


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Short or the normal.i love the normal,but meh for short
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sniperskaya short is good for short and mid range, damage is very good in short, i get a lot of kills with it, but still i like assault more, my friend good in recon class, but not me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 6 2010, 08:15 PM)
triangle no good la, actually mil dot is the best for me if they got no barrel wander, the crosshair in gol is good for short and medium, super far range you need estimation, while mil dot is good for long range because of the dot, you can have a rough estimation, same goes to the triangle, but triangle got no vertical and horizontal line like the one in gol and mil dot.
sniperskaya short is good for short and mid range, damage is very good in short, i get a lot of kills with it, but still i like assault more, my friend good in recon class, but not me tongue.gif
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M95 pawns all laugh.gif
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:36 AM

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I like both Gol & M95. They both seem like they have the same range, so I'm kinda used to it's range/bullet drop. Though the M95 is slow, the sound effect makes me come back for more. Gol is a great substitute for faster firing rate.

But in all honesty, Gol > M95.
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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Apr 7 2010, 01:36 AM)
I like both Gol & M95. They both seem like they have the same range, so I'm kinda used to it's range/bullet drop. Though the M95 is slow, the sound effect makes me come back for more. Gol is a great substitute for faster firing rate.

But in all honesty, Gol > M95.
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but M24 dmg pawn GOL laugh.gif
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IINM, M24 doesn't have the range like Gol & M95. Besides, it's headshots that gives you the instant kill not body shots. Besides, I think the damage differences between gol and M24 is negligible.
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post Apr 7 2010, 10:13 AM

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I pick the M95 because you can damage choppas with it.
Also, with Magnum ammo even a bodyshot will do something like 95%, enough to kill someone who has suffered minor damage.

Protip: Picking Magnum ammo reduces your bullet drop.
GOL has zero sway and the bolt action is faster though. So it's really up to you. I did snipe out a blackhawk pilot with the GOL once though. Loled.
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Apr 7 2010, 06:52 AM)
but M24 dmg pawn GOL  laugh.gif
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Shaddap tongue.gif
GOL pawns ALL! icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 8 2010, 11:02 AM

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Confirm PC BFBC2 got bullet arch.

Coz I'm a pretty good sniper in MW2 but totally suck donkey nuts in BC2.


Added on April 8, 2010, 11:04 am
QUOTE(chipmunkey1992 @ Apr 7 2010, 12:30 PM)
Shaddap  tongue.gif
GOL pawns ALL! icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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M2 pwns all sad.gif

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might try GOL soon, since i need the accuracy for 1hk pratice.
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so does that means GOL just basically just aim at head, no need to compensate for bullet drop?

Tried GOL but not used to it, keep aiming upwards to compensate for bullet drop. at the end hit no one. Dont like the thick scope haha
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Still need to compensate at longer ranges.
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IMO, for GOL / M95 it depends on the scope you are using and how far is the target. I estimate the range through the size of the target that appears on the scope. Most of the time where the traget is juz beyond 100meters I aim just right above the head. You can take a look at this video for reference, that is how i got to learn the characteristics of both Gol & M95:




When watching the video, pay attention to the distance and the size of the target. Watch the size of the target when scoped and the distance when not. It's also important to know the height of the target; like is the target on a hill heigher above you? That is what I usually consider when aiming.

BTW, I usually equip 12x scope and magnum rounds(for the extra range; less bullet drop)

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another variable for bullet drop is of cos whether ur firing from top down or other way round.
if firing from bottom to top seems to have to adjust for more bullet drop.

im using gol more now, but m95 is definitely more accurate...probably due to less bullet drop.
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Ooo. I learned many tips here. Prepare to be sniped by uncle tonight! Muahaha.
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i prefer GOl in BC2, but in BC1 i love M95, ever shoot a heli pilot with it. wakakaka
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 8 2010, 06:22 PM)
another variable for bullet drop is of cos whether ur firing from top down or other way round.
if firing from bottom to top seems to have to adjust for more bullet drop.

im using gol more now, but m95 is definitely more accurate...probably due to less bullet drop.
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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Apr 8 2010, 11:02 AM)
Confirm PC BFBC2 got bullet arch.

Coz I'm a pretty good sniper in MW2 but totally suck donkey nuts in BC2.


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M2 pwns all sad.gif
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MW2 sniper is easy, just like CS, and they got no bullet travel time

i like the m24 scope, but dont like the barrel wander of m24 and m95, i wish i can their scope and place it on the gol so that i get gol with m24 scope with no barrel wander laugh.gif
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haha i havent tried MW2 so i dont know, but CSS sniping is hella easy.
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i'm gonna put a different argument here:

sniper rifle bullet speed and drops are all the same, regardless whether u use magnum ammo or not. magnum ammo only enhances damage by 25% as well as extending the 1hk range. it doesnt do anything else.
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i saw on the measurement base on animation of reloading and changing bullet round. M24 have higher rate of reload speed than GOL.
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eish, using m95 makes me feel heavier and slower -.o
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QUOTE(itsClois @ Apr 8 2010, 11:36 PM)
eish, using m95 makes me feel heavier and slower  -.o
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if u wanna hold big guns,u gonna sacrifice a bit la tongue.gif .not evry1 in BC2 is rambo
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 9 2010, 02:55 AM)
if u wanna hold big guns,u gonna sacrifice a bit la  tongue.gif .not evry1 in BC2 is rambo
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even if want rambo also not rambo in big open field map, like arica harbor, stay on open field could get you kill anytime
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Woohoo! Thx to you guys, I had my best ever sniping round in fragnetics.

9 kills (crap I know, but still it's my personal best so far)
5 headshots
Not to mention quite a number critical assists.

Not bad for an uncle eh? smile.gif

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post Apr 21 2010, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(chipmunkey1992 @ Apr 7 2010, 12:30 PM)
Shaddap  tongue.gif
GOL pawns ALL! icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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You fail to prove that to me. GOL is nothing to me but M95 is my baby. rclxms.gif nod.gif
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post May 27 2010, 06:04 PM

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not much difference between GOL and M95 to me, i play out the 2 and just depending who get the aim first and shoot. That's all and not much to debate to it. Even using M24 also the same, don't feel any different in it. Aim first and shoot first (of course got the aim correct already first) then you win
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M95 ftw,


I play as recon since BC2 release, always first weapon, until unlocked M95 then dont use other sniper

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pawn enemies from any range with M95, shoot like a Ghost Recon, XD
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QUOTE(nightsatan @ May 27 2010, 06:04 PM)
not much difference between GOL and M95 to me, i play out the 2 and just depending who get the aim first and shoot. That's all and not much to debate to it. Even using M24 also the same, don't feel any different in it. Aim first and shoot first (of course got the aim correct already first) then you win
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but i think m95 has higher power.... can shoot longer range and does more damages. I shut down the UAV a few time with just 1 bullet - 1 shot 1 kill. I doubt GOL is as good. But if compared on accuracy, both are on par. I am sux with SVU, piece of shit for me.

Btw, why is VSS a sniper rifle? It is an awesome assault rifle - silent and deadly. rclxms.gif


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i use that M24 all the time...
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post Jun 18 2010, 10:01 AM

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M95 is something like a tank in a sniper form XD
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even though M95 is more powerful, there's something about it that i dont like. It feels sluggish when you want to zoom, feels like the gun is very heavy and the soldier has a tough time holding the gun up to his eye level. Get what i mean?

GOL is much more responsive (like M24) and i can normally zoom and kill within 2 sec of enemy sighting at mid range. Somehow the feell and sound of GOL reminds me very much of AWP (which i was also good at) in CS. Does anyone feels the same? Maybe that's why i feel much more comfortable using GOL.

Lastly but not least, semi-auto aka snaiperskaya = fail. at least for me, LOL. never able to get it right.

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At the moment M95 is NOTbetter in terms of power or damage. It's the same as any other sniper rifle; it does the same damage as Gol, m24 or sv98. All 4 sniper rifles does the same maximum and minimum damage. There is however only a small difference in terms of scoping sway, fire rate, scoping speed. The reason why most of you ppl say that m95 feels sluggish is because it's slightly slower to scope in, slower fire rate, and slower reload speed.

THE ONLY THING THAT SET M95 APART FROM THE REST IS THAT IT DOES DAMAGE TO LIGHT VEHICLES (UAV, helicopters, hummers, quad bikes) and it penetrates through thin covers.

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wow awesome table, thanks for clarifying.

what is buckshot and slug damage under shotgun?
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wah... nice info!
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buckshots is your standard circle crossair where you get individual pellets that does e.g. 12.5 damage each pellet.

slug is where your cross air is the cross in the middle of the screen where it shoots one single slug. example:



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If you refer the the damage table ALL bolt action sniper rifles do 50 damage at range.

And for further clarification all weapons used to have different ballistic bullet drop properties but after god knows which patch all bullet drop over distance is now the same.

Another thing I must place emphasis on is that even though the Magnum Ammo spec claims to increase bullet velocity and decrease bullet drop it actually doesn't.

So if you're a recon who just prefers to go for headshots forget about Magnum Ammo.

Another thing to not is that they reduced the 1HKO range for all bolt action sniper rifles during the last patch.

Another note is that with the current patch the M95 WILL NOT kill anyone with a headshot if he's using the Body Armor spec.

The only reason I'm still using the M95 is just because I want to Platinum Star it. 254 kills more to go...
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The only reason that the M95 is worth using is the ability to dmg light vehicles and choppers and able to OHK the UAV.Another thing is the insane penetration.

Even though all the bolt action snipers have the same dmg but they do have a lot of differences among each other.
The SV98 have the highest ammo cap,fastest bolt action cycle,fastest reload speed and unique chevron style scope.
The GOL is considered to be the most accurate bolt action snipers because of the thin crosshair and fastest scope in.
The M24 would be in between the 2 bolt action snipers.Good sniper for starters.

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Maybe after reading this I feel more confident to try Recon again. :l

I gave up coz most of the time far range couldn't snipe anything at all. Rarely got the lucky headshot but that's about it (Coz agak agak bullet drop). >_>

Right now, Recon makes KD ratio ugleh. D:
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haih... nama thread pun pesla sniper tongue.gif

anyway... i would love to see some map with extreme long range sniping >800m like in BF2, damn i'm so liking it - play with bullet drop and so on... and also, when mortar strike not possible due to too far flex.gif
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QUOTE(Miri-Sarawak @ Apr 6 2010, 07:55 PM)
But i played it on the PS3. I can see the bullet drop but when i bought for the PC.. it was straight. I thought they port this stuff to the PC. Maybe, i should Q&A the EA regarding this un-port bullet drop.
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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Jun 18 2010, 04:41 PM)
At the moment M95 is NOTbetter in terms of power or damage. It's the same as any other sniper rifle; it does the same damage as Gol, m24 or sv98. All 4 sniper rifles does the same maximum and minimum damage. There is however only a small difference in terms of scoping sway, fire rate, scoping speed. The reason why most of you ppl say that m95 feels sluggish is because it's slightly slower to scope in, slower fire rate, and slower reload speed.

THE ONLY THING THAT SET M95 APART FROM THE REST IS THAT IT DOES DAMAGE TO LIGHT VEHICLES (UAV, helicopters, hummers, quad bikes) and it penetrates through thin covers.

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