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TakanoKyohei
post Jun 5 2010, 07:07 AM

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Let Stick to the Original discussion guys hehe.. em i believe it will be release days after the wwdc in june 7.

@aztechx: its free and for the ipod touch user i think its 9.99 as usual..

and they said OS4 will not be reoease on iphone 2G..
TakanoKyohei
post Jun 8 2010, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(iDontCare @ Jun 8 2010, 09:49 AM)
I think not so fast. Shud be expecting this next year. Microsim need to bring in duno how long. I think a 4G phone without 4G network is quite useless
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The Iphone 4 is does not use 4G signal bro, its just the name of the phone where it is call iphone 4..
TakanoKyohei
post Jun 8 2010, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(skool87 @ Jun 8 2010, 11:36 AM)
it is really video call over wifi only?
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Yes it is, is just WIFI via WIFI for the time being as he mention in the keynote.

anyway. TS, I believe that we should put all the info at the first page of this thread because a lot of people ask the same Q over and over again,

just 2 my cent.. smile.gif
TakanoKyohei
post Jun 8 2010, 01:03 PM

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i believe the FaceTime will use some special app like iChat in mac os( as i say most likely). where when they want to make video call they have to open the app and start FaceTime calling etc etc.

and most probably after 2010 they will add a function where it can call via 3G network into other phone like SE, NOkia, Samsung etc.


@shanecross: lets just wait for its info regarding the price as we all dont know exaclty price and if we all assume. price will be around the same price as 3GS where 3GS will be price as 3G.

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post Jun 8 2010, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(s3an_looi @ Jun 8 2010, 03:39 PM)
WTF?! Microsim!? Cut my sim card?! ... o.. m.. g.. who'll take the risk?

Also, I read that video record is 720p but will not be able to use the stereo microphone.
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if i not wrong. maxis offer to change you normal sim into microsim with a fee of rm25 if you are current maxis customer and free for new customer,

but cutting the simcard sometime have its risk. the risk where we accidently cut it wrong etc. sweat.gif

here is the info

http://www.lowyat.net/v2/latest/micro-sim-...axis-users.html

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post Jun 8 2010, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(rheza02 @ Jun 8 2010, 04:27 PM)
someone should get iPhone 4 from UK, its unlocked UNIT.

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which carrier you say unlocked unit? i believe all carrier in UK locked its iphone bro. smile.gif
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post Jun 8 2010, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(-_- @ Jun 8 2010, 05:05 PM)
you can unlock your iphone if your phone is from o2
prepaid pay 15 pounds to unlock  contract will be free
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Woh.. really? where do you get the info dude, i seriously want to get it from UK if we can pay 15 pounds to unlock it since i got relatives staying there and he can get it 1 i think.
TakanoKyohei
post Jun 8 2010, 07:08 PM

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Lol Bro String. See there is 1 more forumer asking 1 liner post regarding upgrding the firmware that is not yet release officially..

To Samchong87, the firmware still not release yet and please do read info regarding iOS4 before blindly asking here,,. =.="

as for the suggestion of String, I Vote agree with him.

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post Jun 9 2010, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(vexus @ Jun 8 2010, 10:40 PM)
the stainless steel band that act as an antenna. WIll we get electric static shock?
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i dont think so because antenna emit low charge and it wont have any electric static so i think it is safe for it, and i was really impress about apple engineer making it as an antenna where it make it fully useful for that part. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(yong_lc @ Jun 9 2010, 03:18 AM)
come together. lets try to get consumer power to get iphone 4 for cheaper
price.

if we can get a list big enough/quantity enough... we as consumers might have the power to get it at a cheaper price.

so lets start it. 

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1451320
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i dont think we can get cheaper price in just creating bulk because apple control its price but good luck. smile.gif
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post Jun 9 2010, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(kaiwen1210 @ Jun 9 2010, 02:14 PM)
this will work on ipod touch 2nd gen ?
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PLease Read at the first page because there a FAQ there standing for user to read instead of asking the same question over and over again =.="
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post Jun 9 2010, 02:46 PM

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@String,

Yeah i also think like that. if they ask simple question without reading etc, then i should just ignore it.. sometimes it feel irritated but nvm. gonna look forward and this this simple question is a no go for me.
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post Jun 9 2010, 03:26 PM

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Lol so being Sarcastic laa you guys haha..and they even think it was a real serious question,

anyway back to the topic,


QUOTE(Jimsee @ Jun 9 2010, 03:10 PM)
Is this true iOS4 will have let us customize our ringtone directly in our Iphone ?

Just curious
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i dont think so because if iOS4 have that function Steve Jobs will add the talk in his speech already in the WWDC or maybe put the function details in apple site.
also there is no app to make the ringtone directly from the iphone because of the music copy issue i presume, it is state that only song that we buy from apple store is where we can directly it convert into the ringtone while others music need to do it other way. ( correct me if im wrong)


@xaw5126

yeah i agree with that, apple product is where they care about the pro and contra of the business world.

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post Jun 9 2010, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(kae_ae @ Jun 9 2010, 03:21 PM)
Wtf? Thats b.s.

Initial reaction i was very impressed but after getting over the hype the only thing im looking fwd is the lowering of prices for 3gs version. I do like the new casing design n the higher res screen n cam is great but doesnt look like worth early adopting. But thats just me considering anything towards 3k is exorbitant for h.p.

But if its really only iphone to iphone is crap lah. For 3rd of the price a nokia can do that which fits the demographic of ppl who work/live away from family. Youre atuk/nenek sure terkial2 trying to work the iphone to talk to their cucu tongue.gif The front n back cam video calling feature is pretty neat tho.

Edit: n while im at it the need for flash is overrated lah (keep in mind adobe who absorbed macromedia was originally apple native) whaffor jobs bow down to tech oredi 10 years, most of u prolly were still in primary. The chance of others porting to apple more likely, not the other way around considering apple is so far the major player, as big potential as google phone we can be sure itll never overtake iphone in terms of market share. Ill stick with something thats ubiquitous rather than go for something niche (at least here in my lah) use iphone oredi call hipster kalau googlephone lagi lah uber hipster tongue.gif
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dude, im dont want to be rude or or offense you or anything but seriously if you think its crap or anything, don't buy it because iPhone is not meant for you

Buy Android phone maybe?

and again the price is overprice because of its technology that make people "wow" on the technology, im not saying the technology of calling via 3G or front camera or dual sim card or send file via bluetooth etc, im saying the technology of "wow" in its creation and simple function that make user life become more easier, does that function make people do like iphone anyway.?

QUOTE(frozzbyte @ Jun 9 2010, 03:29 PM)
There are other criteria that make a phone a smartphone. If you definition of a smartphone is having the ability to customize a ringtone on the phone, than I also have nothing to say about your definition of a smartphone. If you think it's not smart enough, then you might consider other smart phone (as some of us here thinks, customizing ringtone on your phone is not that of a BIG issue).

p/s - Apple can't please all segments of the phone markets. Later people will say "iPhone can't be call a smartphone because it can't fetch coke from the fridge". If you like it, you buy. If you don't, buy other smartphone.
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Frozz... i want i wannt that fucntion haha... drool.gif



Anyway guys, lets back to the topic and have a serious discussion shall we..smile.gif

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post Jun 9 2010, 04:43 PM

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I have a question that need you guys to share an opinion. since the antenna is divide into 2 side where 1 for it is for UMTS and and the other side is for wifi, bluetooth, what will happen if both antenna make a contact, i mean if we put in our pocket then suddenly both antenna connect via our key or etc, does it will short circuit and burnt our component in the iphone? or maybe there are small electricity flow through the antenna goes up to the component?

somehow i think its kind of danger where it touches between both antenna.
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QUOTE(sokryswaslike @ Jun 9 2010, 05:03 PM)
Do you guys think it is possible to upgrade to iPhone 4 (when it arrives in Malaysia) by trading in my iPhone 3G[S]? I apologize if this question has been asked.
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not sure if this option available or not, but as far as i can remember last time maxis offer trade with iphone 2G but with a low price of trading, it is better to use our old phone rather than trade in because that time the price for trading is so low,

anyway just wait if maxis offer trading option or not, which will be know in "coming months" as maxis said.
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post Jun 9 2010, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 9 2010, 11:01 PM)
dear mods,
why is there another thread here? http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1450091

@string,
some rich fellers dont even wanna pay taxes yet complain when certain things go up in prices.
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because they can post in 1 liner and can ask the same price over and over again?..

i used to jailbreak my iphone because i need all the function like what Bro nokia said in his post, its true that people can add their cr4ck app but then it depends on them., i personally buy like bite sms and cyntact just make my iphone goes its full potential and i do really like that.
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post Jun 10 2010, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(epool86 @ Jun 10 2010, 08:20 AM)
Nothing special about iphone4, I'm expecting they come out with better product but I wrong. With the price u can actually get much more better device.

But one thing for sure, apple fanboy will buy it and proud with it on the street without knowing some people is actually laughing at them because trying to show off their lousy device.

No offense, just my opinion.
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no offense taken dude. the story is like this. apple do they stuff and people whining about it but the fact is, iphone user around the world become bigger and bigger as the time come. even a child or and old lady bought it, those people are fanboy too?
In US, UK, my eldest brother who are cabin crew who always flight around the world see at least 2 of 4 people use iphone. in airplane cabin, at least 3 of 18 customer in flight use ipad.

its true apple have limited function as others recall it has, bluetooth cannot send music etc, camera 5MP rather than others phone who have 12mp camera but the quality of the product? who win in this situation, im not apple fanboy my self but i do like apple product because of its design and the quality of its,
my eldest brother and his fellow crew friends use iphone also eventhough the are not apple fanboy.

if you think nothing special about iphone 4 and say with the price is you can easily get better device then go on. there are people who like the design and there are people who like the function and they can actually chose with device suitable for them and we obviously know that you dont like iphone at all do you?

btw discussing about iphone cannot have this function, others phone have this function. that function, apple fanboy, apple not so fanboy will continuously so i suggest that we discuss it seriously,

as again, No offense, just my opinion.

cheeers

taka.


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post Jun 10 2010, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(laowai @ Jun 10 2010, 11:05 AM)
Questions about iphone :

Does Iphone have radio functionality? Video output?

How much is ram in iphone 4? If same as ipad, there's problem for multitask/surfing.
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THIS link contains information about the question you ask. too much information that i cant explain it for you because i dont know where to start with. shakehead.gif
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post Jun 11 2010, 11:34 AM

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The Bumper Case for the iphone that been introduce by apple somehow make me feel want to but it with my iphone so that it can protect the aluminum side of the iphone, with a price of $29 i was thinking what material that have been use to create those bumper.

user posted image

Bumper+screen protector for front and back side of the phone=fully protection i presume.

p/s: and also because of the flat surface for the back side of the phone making us easy to apply screen protector for it wink.gif

Add: @ZeneticX, as for the leak picture around the web it seems that the ram is same as iphone 3GS(256MB of ram) but maybe faster cpu, but we all still cant confirm it as they all still dont get the actual product, maybe after the actually product release then someone will crank open it up then making a review on it, i assume annandtech will do it btw.

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QUOTE(sogoatticus @ Jun 11 2010, 12:32 PM)
u mean there's none unlock iphone in Canada market?
if theres a change to unlock it still the warranty not covered here?
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the warranty will be only covered by the telco it self, so basically if you buy the phone from canada the warranty only cover there, if got anything problem you need to send it to canada,

as for the software unlock, maybe, as i say maybe it will be around the net someday but if you ask me when, i cant give the answer because we all dont know when it will be release by unlocking team,

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