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English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, 15/4 03:00 TOT v ARS | FT: BAR 4-1 ARS

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lostasylum
post Apr 8 2010, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Apr 8 2010, 10:21 AM)
so? that is HIS VIEW... dun like? ignore la...

who started that Kris Casav stuff? go bang ur head plz... defamaming others and making other's to bash beramai ramai will contribute to open discussion? is that wat u all gonna do from now on? wat kind of discussion will there be if all just blindly agree on things? sooner or later everyone will scare to voice out their opinions, particularly those negative to the club coz if that happens, everyone will boikot and worst still calling unwanted names on them... is that where this forum is heading right now??

thanks Kimhoong... i can tell u that u ain't doing ur job right here... plz warn those prick here who stop others from voicing out their opinions, be it good or bad. I dun see the problem here wif Casanova prediciting the downfall of Arsenal in 10years time..

Kimhoong is a SAP programmer right? heard of Data mining? Statistical driven test? i'm sure u understand wat i'm talking if u put in the past 5years data as Training set data and compare wif the Test data...
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i don't usually post too often in here, but i read almost everything. i feel that your attack on kimhoong is pretty unfair. how can anyone say that kimhoong isn't doing his job right? he's been doing a fantastic job in here even though he's not a mod, and he has my utmost respect. he has almost ALWAYS maintained neutral ground, but i believe that his response to cassanova88 is absolutely within his rights. he is also a member of this forum, and he has his rights to voice out his opinions.

and by the way, from your definition of a forum:

QUOTE(maximus85 @ Apr 8 2010, 10:00 AM)
based on The Free Dictionary, the defitnition of FORUM:
A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.

u dun like wat others say then just STFU la... no need quote and bash... and wat? i even saw defamation here...

Mr.Kimhoong, i can tell u, u failed big time as a mod here... u joined the others in bashing anyone who disagree wif the majority view here... warning SHOULD be given to those who defame others.... terrible moderator shakehead.gif
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i think the main ingredients that make a forum interesting is discussion and ideas, both of which i find terribly lacking in cassanova's posts. i don't think you were here when cassanova made his debut in this subforum. i can tell you that many in here, initially tried to discuss and debate with him. however, whenever he is wrong, he refuses to admit it, mostly sidestepping the issues or just deflecting it back to the overall failure of arsenal. but when he is right, he comes in here posting things that are pretty inflammatory. it is sad that many of the forumers in here give him exactly what he wants by responding to him and getting upset, but it doesn't change the fact that he's not contributing in the spirit of a forumer, and more importantly, i believe, as an arsenal fan. i honestly can't remember any arsenal supporter who would keep predicting his team to lose and then gloat about it. there have been many times that i fear that arsenal will lose, but i hope for the best. and even if arsenal did lose, proving my instinct somewhat correct, i am too sad to gloat about it, except hope that things will get better.

so, if cassanova88 should be allowed to carry on spewing his so called "ideas" (which kimhoong has been very gracious to allow), then the people who bash him should be allowed to respond however they see fit. if the rule must apply to one (i.e. cassonova's posts), then the same rule must apply to all right (those who respond to him)?

and finally, i must note, kimhoong's responses to cassanova have been decent, and in previous times, he has always requested the other members to respect those who do not share their view. in my book, kimhoong is doing one hell of a job. i personally don't believe he has done anything wrong, but even if you think he did, he's only human. but even then, his one "mistake" is more than made up by the good work he's been doing around here.

if you think you can do better, you can always ask the moderators to let you be in charge instead. if you can't do better, then i think you should throw your support behind someone who has been doing it.


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post Apr 13 2010, 09:19 AM

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morning folks... things are happening at arsenal off the pitch...

Arsenal take step closer to takeover - reports

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Arsenal price too high for Kroenke and Usmanov?

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post Apr 13 2010, 02:53 PM

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i think i will echo the majority of the sentiments about RVP... he's back and that's great, but i don't think he'll come back and instantly be our saviour though.

he'll probably come on as a substitute and i don't expect to see the best out of him till we start next season. for now, we have to forge ahead with bendtner, vela and eduardo. these guys all have a last chance to stake their claim before RVP comes back as the alpha male striker.

i'm hoping that spurs extra time defeat against pompey will work in our favour...
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post Apr 14 2010, 11:05 AM

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for once.. i actually agree with what I read in soccernet by Harry Harris:

"At the top, Manchester United and Arsenal can forget about the championship if Chelsea are going to survive such clear-cut handballs."

John Terry gets one hand on the double

and I would add in "if Terry is able to get away with disgusting tackles like the one he made against milner..."

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post Apr 14 2010, 11:20 AM

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i mean, it's one thing to make a good, strong challenge, but to be reckless and mindless and call that good defending, it's no wonder the english are famous for being rough thugs and nothing else...

as for the handball, sigh, it would seem that the comedic refereeing in the BPL is really no laughing matter anymore, especially this late stage in the season when there are 3 teams who are all still able to win it...
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post Apr 15 2010, 12:29 AM

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apparently, barca are gonna lay off fabregas... dunno whether can trust them or not.. heheh..


Hill-Wood: Barca gave assurances over Fabregas

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post Apr 15 2010, 05:11 AM

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RVP has brought back everything that arsenal has forgotten since the invincibles....

1. if you have a chance to shoot, do it - notice that only after RVP came on and started shooting, the rest of the players also started to take shots. it's no coincidence that our first shot from distance all night happened after the 80th minute.

2. be effective with the ball - his incisive passes and through passes prove that having majority possession don't count for squat if you can't make effective passes. again, it's no coincidence that our only goal started from RVP's beautiful incisive pass.

3. take up good positions - most of the arsenal players were running their heart out, but positioning wise, rubbish. he comes on, takes up really good positions and suddenly, arsenal were dangerous instead of just having possession.

gripes.....

i've been saying for quite awhile, and i'll said it again, our defensive frailties will be our achilles heel. this season, the leading culprit defensively has been almunia. make no mistake, he's a good shot stopper, but his decision making and dealing with crosses / high balls is very poor. his punch that lead to the first goal was poor, and the shot that rose scored although powerful, was right at him. wenger has given him more than enough chances to prove himself, but i think the time has come to get a proven goalie while waiting for the young keepers to be ready.

rosicky was also very poor. so was diaby. both failed miserably on points 1, 2 and 3 above while eboue was seriously guilty of being way too over elaborate. denilson i felt did a decent job. silvestre did was we've always known he could do, be a liability.

so yeah, we deserved to lose tonight. let's hope we learn from it and win the league next season. =)
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post Apr 15 2010, 05:14 AM

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Apr 15 2010, 05:02 AM)
Seriously, I've really lost it over Almunia. How the feck is he even wearing an Arsenal jersey let alone the number 1.

Then again how great was RVP and poor Sol. What a performance from Campbell today. Sorely let down by his teammates. Eboue was just, well Eboue. Another Jekyl and Hyde performance from Diaby. Rosicky was pretty decent in the 1st half apart from his final balls but offered nothing at all in the 2nd. Nasri, anonymous and Bendtner wasn't getting any service.

Sigh. Simply not good enough. I was especially annoyed at how the players prefer to do catwalks outside the area instead of attacking the ball and flooding the box with options and support. This even after more than a weeks rest.
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that's the part i really don't understand... spurs just finished an exhausting energy sapping game against pompey a few days ago and yet arsenal were the ones who played like they had lead feet.... that's just not good enough for a team that wants to win the EPL. and yes, like my previous post, terribly disappointed with almunia....

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post Apr 15 2010, 05:21 AM

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Apr 15 2010, 05:17 AM)
as far as i can recall, long break from football always do more harm than good to us. we always looks like losing the momentum after long break, even though this time around it was not that long. just over a week gone since our last match
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we will need to address this problem if we want to be serious contenders. right now, which has been happening since we last won the league, we have been the perennial nearly men of the EPL.


QUOTE(toshio14 @ Apr 15 2010, 05:17 AM)
how good was Robin tonight? it's like he never been away
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robin, is exactly like what i said...

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post Apr 15 2010, 05:24 AM

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Apr 15 2010, 05:22 AM)
Same goes for those who suddenly "knew" everything 5 months ago "oh i knew our title was over since we lost to chelsea back then, oh i knew we have no hope after losing to chelsea" bla bla bla.
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did you also notice that his prediction of 1 - 1 for this game was absolutely wrong, and yet he says nothing about it. instead, he then gloats about the fact that he predicted arsenal would lose..... he'd make a terrible fortune teller... his miss ratio is way higher than his hit ratio... =)
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post Apr 15 2010, 05:39 AM

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Apr 15 2010, 05:27 AM)
the thing is i think we will be a lot better even if we only do 1 thing i.e. get a good goalkeeper ala Jens who organizes and manage his penalty area well. how is the clown on goal tonight wearing our #1 and armband is beyond me at this stage of the season
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yup... he's had his chance to prove himself, which he hasn't, so it's time to move on.


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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Apr 15 2010, 05:28 AM)
i actually noticed that, but choose not to mention it because orang bodoh kalau dilayan makin menjadi2
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kalo biasa, memang pun i tak layan. tapi yang tuh dah ketara sangat, tak bleh nak diam... hahahah... =)

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post Apr 15 2010, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Apr 15 2010, 08:08 PM)
no, i do not think Arsene has to go because considering the circumstances i am satisfied with our performances this season. the very least i expected at the start of the season was to challenge for the league title and we did just that. and the improvements showed this season are already enough to convince me we are on the right track. what i hope for and i think our players should feel obliged to do is finishing the season strongly as a platform for next season. and by that i mean us winning convincingly our remaining matches and given us the performances that we were capable of just like what we did earlier this season
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i agree that wenger shouldn't be sacked, but i can't agree that i'm satisfied with our performances, especially since the new year. for me, i believe that the only reason why we're still in the hunt was because the other main 2 dropped points... all the top 3 teams have been pretty inconsistent this season. makes for good popcorn viewing for the neutral, but terribly exasperating for fans of arsenal...

especially the last few games, we've always been keeping it late to score goals... sure, that is a sign on mental strength, but i feel that if we could play for the first 80 minutes how we usually play for the last 10 minutes, we would be free scoring. we seem to always start trying to cross, shoot and play direct in the final 10 minutes.. before that, we're pretty contented to play 30 passes in the opponents' penalty box before trying to score, which is why i said that RVP's return yesterday showed the entire arsenal team what they had forgotten to do. i outlined 3 main points, but i'm too lazy to copy and paste it here... can you guys remember the first game of the new season when we totally whooped everton's sorry @$$? we were shooting from everywhere and then suddenly we would pass it.. we mixed it up and everton had no idea how to handle us... we need to play like that every game...

and that, i believe is the very thing that keeps us from being great like barca. messi is skillful no doubt, almost messiah like sometimes, but if you notice, he knows when to shoot and when to dribble. case in point, the first goal against arsenal in the second leg. he knew that he would have one chance and it was to shoot, and he did that. their midfield also know how to mix it up, when to pass it around, and when to play direct. i think our wenger and especially our young crop of players must learn to do that... players like diaby, walcott, rosicky and even arshavin have all been too inconsistent.... we have become kinda too dependant on fabregas sometimes.

i would also like to put some blame on wenger for NOT buying reinforcements for song. we have been so badly exposed in his absence. he also chose to keep faith in almunia which has come back to bite us in the behind. but oh well, hopefully we'll all learn from this and that we'll come back stronger next year.




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