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joey85
post Apr 2 2010, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(dmatthews @ Apr 1 2010, 08:25 PM)
Thanks again everyone!

The lawyer and the bank agreed to display the selling price in the S&PA.  They explained that the reason to put the loan amount is to lower the stamp duty fees and to show the real value of the property.  They understood though my concern so all is well now.  The lawyer will amend the S&PA before the seller and I will sign smile.gif

Many thanks again!

Joey85, glad to know that there is another bank that have lower BLR.  I guess, I'll pass now because of the time spent in this purchase has put my energy somewhere already LOL
Now planning to do renovation and might apply for Personal Loan to other banks or Home Xtra by OCBC.  Will see if Affin will be able to provide such loan with great rate too.
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QUOTE(leongal @ Apr 1 2010, 10:45 PM)
rclxub.gif dun be too excited yet; there's still a long way to go; what you need to do - is to monitor your lawyer closely and get them update you on the progress (most of the time, they won't call you, so it is better if you take the initiative to follow up with them)

smile.gif congrats too...
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yeap agreed... but my S & P lawyer is better than my loan lawyer.. they will keep me update tongue.gif instead my loan lawyer need me to call them for updates... sweat.gif

QUOTE(riz50 @ Apr 1 2010, 11:35 PM)
Noob Question
10k d/p need to pay to vendor or lawyer?

looking for housing loan too. i need to pay 10% from 150k n
i got 15k rite now. but dunno  to whom i need to pay d/p to
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Down payment will pay to vendor through lawyer... btw can i know have u pay any deposit to vendor and to secure the house already?? coz im quite confuse about ur Q... normally the step is ... 1. Go to see the house, 2. I like the house, 3. Nego the price, 4. both party - vendor and purchaser agree the price, 5. Purchaser pay some deposit / down payment (some vendor request to get down payment directly) to secure the purchase, 6. Find lawyer and banker, 7. Lawyer will follow up for down payment / other things

this is my experience... maybe there are different situation ?? tongue.gif

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post Apr 2 2010, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(riz50 @ Apr 1 2010, 11:35 PM)
Noob Question
10k d/p need to pay to vendor or lawyer?

looking for housing loan too. i need to pay 10% from 150k n
i got 15k rite now. but dunno  to whom i need to pay d/p to
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booking fee of 2-3% is usually payable to the property agent (never pay to the owner directly, because you might not noe the owner is under bankruptcy)

the remaining 10% deposit (after minusing the booking fee) is payable to your s&p lawyer
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post Apr 2 2010, 10:36 AM

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Thanks again to all of you who replied in this topic. I'm indeed excited biggrin.gif
Hopefully I don't have to chase the lawyers after signing of the S&PA but they are updating me so far on needed documents.

Many things on my head right now biggrin.gif.
Renovations and I'm also thinking of taking advantage of Account 2 in EPF to recover some money I'm paying for this purchase (10% payment to seller, 4.1K to lawyer). I need to wait for S&PA and loan agreement to be signed, I believe.
Also the MLTA or MRTA. Not sure which to get yet.

joey85, your procedure is the exact procedure I am doing or was asked to do. Booking fee is made to the lawyer then the rest of the deposit is to be paid during signing the S&PA. That's what the lawyer told me to do. Paid and will pay by cheque too so it's black and white, they said.

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post Apr 2 2010, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(dmatthews @ Apr 1 2010, 08:25 PM)
Thanks again everyone!

The lawyer and the bank agreed to display the selling price in the S&PA.  They explained that the reason to put the loan amount is to lower the stamp duty fees and to show the real value of the property.  They understood though my concern so all is well now.  The lawyer will amend the S&PA before the seller and I will sign smile.gif

Many thanks again!

Joey85, glad to know that there is another bank that have lower BLR.  I guess, I'll pass now because of the time spent in this purchase has put my energy somewhere already LOL
Now planning to do renovation and might apply for Personal Loan to other banks or Home Xtra by OCBC.  Will see if Affin will be able to provide such loan with great rate too.
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Now u need to monitor the process makesure they don pay your developer or seller late otherwise you will be charge interest of 10% per annum. Remember to protect yourself by writing them a letter stating you will not bear to pay the interest in the events of late disbursement due to their mistake - bank & lawyer. smile.gif
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post Apr 2 2010, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Apr 2 2010, 01:44 PM)
Now u need to monitor the process makesure they don pay your developer or seller late otherwise you will be charge interest of 10% per annum. Remember to protect yourself by writing them a letter stating you will not bear to pay the interest in the events of late disbursement due to their mistake - bank & lawyer.  smile.gif
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no use la...i could not argue for my "rights" at the end of my property transaction and i got to pay the late penalties despite their faults (both seller's and buyer's lawyers)
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post Apr 2 2010, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Apr 2 2010, 01:47 PM)
no use la...i could not argue for my "rights" at the end of my property transaction and i got to pay the late penalties despite their faults (both seller's and buyer's lawyers)
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u didn't try hard enough! why u didn't enforce your right according to your S & P ?

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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Apr 2 2010, 01:52 PM)
u didn't try hard enough! why u didn't enforce your right according to your  S & P ?
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give up on them! treat it as a lesson of my life! thanks anyway smile.gif
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post Apr 2 2010, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Apr 2 2010, 01:57 PM)
give up on them! treat it as a lesson of my life! thanks anyway  smile.gif
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post Apr 2 2010, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Apr 2 2010, 01:59 PM)
doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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but i wun make them go easily; contemplating of reporting them to the bank and BNM....
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post Apr 2 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(dmatthews @ Apr 2 2010, 10:36 AM)
Thanks again to all of you who replied in this topic.  I'm indeed excited biggrin.gif
Hopefully I don't have to chase the lawyers after signing of the S&PA but they are updating me so far on needed documents.

Many things on my head right now biggrin.gif.
Renovations and I'm also thinking of taking advantage of Account 2 in EPF to recover some money I'm paying for this purchase (10% payment to seller, 4.1K to lawyer).  I need to wait for S&PA and loan agreement to be signed, I believe.
Also the MLTA or MRTA.  Not sure which to get yet.

joey85, your procedure is the exact procedure I am doing or was asked to do.  Booking fee is made to the lawyer then the rest of the deposit is to be paid during signing the S&PA.  That's what the lawyer told me to do.  Paid and will pay by cheque too so it's black and white, they said.
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u r most welcome.... yes issueing cheque is better coz u can track ur own statement and as u mentioned black and white, for me i even photocopy and let them acknowledge receipt hehe...

QUOTE(Tohsan @ Apr 2 2010, 01:44 PM)
Now u need to monitor the process makesure they don pay your developer or seller late otherwise you will be charge interest of 10% per annum. Remember to protect yourself by writing them a letter stating you will not bear to pay the interest in the events of late disbursement due to their mistake - bank & lawyer.  smile.gif
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yes agree... btw.. sometimes when comes to worst... still need to pay the penalty so that the process wont delay more due to not paying penalty doh.gif being experience before that even not my fault is both party lawyer (S&P lawyer) fault - his license couldnt renew, bla bla bla.. make our case delay... bank force us to pay penalty bla bla bla... cry.gif

QUOTE(leongal @ Apr 2 2010, 01:47 PM)
no use la...i could not argue for my "rights" at the end of my property transaction and i got to pay the late penalties despite their faults (both seller's and buyer's lawyers)
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same with leongal sad.gif

QUOTE(Tohsan @ Apr 2 2010, 01:52 PM)
u didn't try hard enough! why u didn't enforce your right according to your  S & P ?
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QUOTE(leongal @ Apr 2 2010, 01:57 PM)
give up on them! treat it as a lesson of my life! thanks anyway  smile.gif
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me too~~ tongue.gif
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post Apr 2 2010, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(joey85 @ Apr 2 2010, 04:17 PM)
u r most welcome.... yes issueing cheque is better coz u can track ur own statement and as u mentioned black and white, for me i even photocopy and let them acknowledge receipt hehe...
yes agree... btw.. sometimes when comes to worst... still need to pay the penalty so that the process wont delay more due to not paying penalty doh.gif  being experience before that even not my fault is both party lawyer (S&P lawyer) fault - his license couldnt renew, bla bla bla.. make our case delay... bank force us to pay penalty bla bla bla...  cry.gif
same with leongal  sad.gif
me too~~ tongue.gif
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maybe ur word not "LOUD" enough tats why they get away tongue.gif laugh.gif
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post Apr 2 2010, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Apr 2 2010, 04:49 PM)
maybe ur word not "LOUD" enough tats why they get away  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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hmm.gif maybe... aikssss.... no choice liao $$ already paid... so this 2nd round (2nd purchase) will learn to be smarter... tongue.gif
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post Apr 2 2010, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Apr 2 2010, 01:44 PM)
Now u need to monitor the process makesure they don pay your developer or seller late otherwise you will be charge interest of 10% per annum. Remember to protect yourself by writing them a letter stating you will not bear to pay the interest in the events of late disbursement due to their mistake - bank & lawyer.  smile.gif
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Noted that, Tohsan. Thank you again for the very useful advise notworthy.gif
I will make a letter today and will give it to lawyer and bank on Monday. Monday is the day of signing of S&PA.

QUOTE(leongal @ Apr 2 2010, 01:47 PM)
no use la...i could not argue for my "rights" at the end of my property transaction and i got to pay the late penalties despite their faults (both seller's and buyer's lawyers)
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Sorry to hear this, leongal. Now, I will make sure the letter that Tohsan has suggested will be done today and received by them on Monday (in case, something is screwed by them or error/mistake at their end). Will give the seller a copy of the letter as well (just copy).

QUOTE(joey85 @ Apr 2 2010, 04:17 PM)
u r most welcome.... yes issueing cheque is better coz u can track ur own statement and as u mentioned black and white, for me i even photocopy and let them acknowledge receipt hehe...
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It makes sense. I am used to paying anything online or online transfer and seldom use my cheque book but now, there is a usage (legal matters) biggrin.gif
Good idea to photocopy and make them sign a receipt of it thumbup.gif
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post Apr 4 2010, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(dmatthews @ Apr 2 2010, 05:54 PM)
Noted that, Tohsan.  Thank you again for the very useful advise notworthy.gif
I will make a letter today and will give it to lawyer and bank on Monday.  Monday is the day of signing of S&PA.
Sorry to hear this, leongal.  Now, I will make sure the letter that Tohsan has suggested will be done today and received by them on Monday (in case, something is screwed by them or error/mistake at their end).  Will give the seller a copy of the letter as well (just copy).
It makes sense.  I am used to paying anything online or online transfer and seldom use my cheque book but now, there is a usage (legal matters) biggrin.gif
Good idea to photocopy and make them sign a receipt of it  thumbup.gif
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yes... this is what i learn from my working hehehe tongue.gif
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post Apr 8 2010, 12:38 PM

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Just an update biggrin.gif
S&PA has been signed. Waiting now for the lawyer to do the stamping on documents so I can get a copy then proceed to EPF office for Account 2 withdrawal.
The seller got the cheque already and was photocopied by the lawyer to acknowledged receipt of the checque. My bank account shows the seller have encash the cheque already LOL.
Hopefully the lawyer will do their job without delay so the bank will release the rest of the money to the seller. I paid the lawyer already via cheque too but they have not encash it. Got the apartment key also (yay!).

Thanks again for helping me on all these stuff especially the amount in the S&PA smile.gif

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post Apr 8 2010, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(dmatthews @ Apr 8 2010, 12:38 PM)
Just an update biggrin.gif
S&PA has been signed.  Waiting now for the lawyer to do the stamping on documents so I can get a copy then proceed to EPF office for Account 2 withdrawal.
The seller got the cheque already and was photocopied by the lawyer to acknowledged receipt of the checque.  My bank account shows the seller have encash the cheque already LOL. 
Hopefully the lawyer will do their job without delay so the bank will release the rest of the money to the seller. I paid the lawyer already via cheque too but they have not encash it. Got the apartment key also (yay!).

Thanks again for helping me on all these stuff especially the amount in the S&PA smile.gif
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wow so fast...congrats ya smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2010, 09:56 PM

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Thanks again to you and everyone!
It's indeed fast. The solicitor said I will need to wait for 2 days for the S&PA to be stamped. I hope to proceed next week with EPF withdrawal so I can get some cash without any interest. Was thinking of applying for renovation loan but realized money in EPF should be enough for little renovation only.


 

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