software wise, can't compare aspen 1-to-1 with b7330. aspen=WM Pro, b7330=WM Std

These 2 WM version are differ very much now. Back to your preference / experience either to have touchscreen or not.

I am very glad with Office Mobile 2010, we can create Word & Excel on b7330, which is not capable with the stock Office Mobile.

any1 tried gps
on this phone? does it work well?
and any1 can teach me where to download applications for this phone?
and also,how do i delete the internet cookies and clear history?
any sifu can guide me?

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This post has been edited by uan: Jun 24 2010, 12:51 AM

Just bought my B7330 yesterday. I used a Samsung i600 previously, so basically it's the same phone except better specs. In fact, in just one night, I have customized my B7330 to exactly the same feel as my old i600 LOL. I'm writing this on my B7330. Here's my list of Pros & cons I've accumulated so far after a day of use:
Pros:
1) Windows mobile Standard. I just like the seamless integration with Desktop outlook, no touchscreen hassles, longer battery life (probably because no touchscreen), exchange server, internet sharing, softkeys, physical qwerty (what's the deal with all touchscreen nowadays anyway?), many apps (yes iphone has thousands of apps, but too much of something can be bad too; I just need fundamental apps) etc.
2) Bigger RAM. In i600, I can only open 2 or 3 apps (especially if using Opera mobile or tcpmp), but now with bigger RAM, I can open so many apps at the same time
3) Alt+alphabet is shortcut assignment to apps. Love it. Makes it easy to open hard to open apps which reside in folders upon folders like Docs to go or Tasks.
4) video call quality is much better than i600.
5) bigger screen. can see so much more now in one page
6) Garmin. love it
7) louder speaker.
8) better quality camera pictures
9) bigger storage memory
10) Battery lasts so long, even with GPS on. I was on GPS for 4 hours today, & battery still have 4 bars left
11) copy & paste are now integrated in most windows native apps like Contacts, Tasks, Calendar. This was sorely missing in i600, which makes me almost jumped to WM professional, but now with the integration, I don't need to be jealous of the capabillity of my touchscreen copy & paste friends, although, there's still one app which is sorely missing of this: Opera mobile
12) 7.2mbps HSDPA as opposed to i600's 1.1mbps. Definitely makes a lot of difference in terms of surfing speed. Although Malaysia's broadband never exceed 3.6mbps.
13) Most apps I used in i600 (which was 4 OS versions earlier (WM5, WM6, WM6.1, WM6.5)) can still be used in B7330! amazing. Saves me so much time searching for newer apps version
Cons:
1) the symbols above the letters buttons are terribly coloured & thus hard to see at night
2) it's hard to type symbols now compared to i600. With i600, there is a dedicated symbol button, where if u press the symbol button with ur left thumb, u can quickly press required symbols using ur right thumb, but now, the button is gone. Now, to choose symbol, u either hold the required symbols' buttons (which takes longer time) or toggle the Alt button between alphabets, chinese or symbol (even longer)
3) the envelope button opens a 'new message'. wish it maintained i600's which opened the message app. Now, needs a few steps to open message app. I resolve it finally by using Alt+button assignment, but requires both hands to achieve this
4) no flash, so, poor quality pictures at night
5) graphics are no match to new phones (AMOLED, higher resolution, million colours etc). At the shop yesterday, I almost bought samsung wave just because of the screen, but i restrained because of WM simplicity out of the box, & since I had been so invested in WM standard, & i can't stand customizing new phones to the way I like
6) Garmin. I'm not sure whether this is isolated to me only, but it's so hard to get a fix in my car. Probably it's the vkool elite tint's fault, but it dropped satellite signals a lot, & sometimes when it's engaged, it showed me being in indonesia. If anyone also has this problem, & knows how to resolve it, please contact me
7) like i600, it also cannot auto-record phone calls. Wish somebody can develop this app, like the guy who develops ACR for windows mobile professional
Guess that's all for now. Will update if there's anything else

welcome emy_77! you are now in the owner list.

sorry didn't reply your PM. tried VITO audio notes (as you suggest) yet still wonder why it can't record calls, as advertised.

on the pinyin (chinese character) thing, i try to play around with the registry but yet no success. i can remove the pinyin option, but it cause SYM button not working. i think it looks like the SYM function is loaded into pinyin dll file.

on opera mobile, there is option for 'select text' when you press and hold the middle button.

on GARMIN, try to load XTRA Data before you go out travel. anyway, it would be lovely if this phone support A-GPS.

any good software to share with?

hi uan
Thanks for the welcome
Do you know there's new firmware for B7330? You can find it here (need to register 1st to be able to go the page): http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/WEBPROTEC...sungwmb7330.htm
I haven't upgraded to the new firmware yet, because I'm afraid it will brick my phone. If you dare, you can try it. If you tried it, do inform me the results I asked in the forum what the new firmware does, but nobody has replied yet. Maybe the firmware can resolve some of the problems I'm facing.
On Audio Notes, yes it's disappointing that it can't auto call record
On chinese character, thanks for trying, I'm getting a hang of it, so, maybe after a few more weeks of use, I'll get used to it
On Opera Mobile, what version are you using? I'm using 8.65, & there is no feature that if I press center button, I can select and copy the text. At the moment, copy can only be done on links, where you click Menu then copy text or copy link.
On GPS, I saw the XTRA option, but never tried. Will give it a try. I think it's like QuickGPS in HTC phones. On A-GPS, I thought it has it? Isn't that why google maps can locate me even without turning on my GPS?
I have more pro's & cons of the phone after a few more days of use of the phone. I'll post it next

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Added on July 21, 2010, 7:51 pmmore pros & cons:
pros:
1. Have LED Indicator: green: wifi, gps, battery full, purple: new email, red: charging, connecting to 3G, blue: bluetooth
2. wifi don't disconnect when screen's off (because there's option to 'don't disconnect wifi when screen's off'). & even when we choose to off wifi when screen's off, when screen's on again, wifi quickly reconnects (which i600 doesn't do)
3. can play youtube directly from opera using arcsoft streaming player
4. when watching using youtube player via wifi, video is clear & don't stutter (in i600, video is clear but stutters)
5. can use keyboard letters to go directly to desired names (in contacts & phone), filenames (in explorer (except s), link (opera), except resco registry & tasks
cons:
1. cannot use tpcmp
2. no scroll wheel
3. 7.2mbps HSDPA speed is not noticeable, max 400kbps only. This is more to Celcom capping policy
4. no back slash symbol. need to use smiley in SMS app. Add~text~emoticon~3rd page,* (\)
5. when searching in sms, button z & b cannot be used, showed square. Also, in general, SMS app is also very slow.
6 Sometimes, setting doesn't respond
7. wifi disconnected in the middle of surfing internet. And the icon completely disappeared. Need to restart the phone to get the wifi icon back. This is one of the biggest bug I am facing at the moment. Hope the new firmware resolve this problem.


This post has been edited by emy_77: Jul 21 2010, 07:51 PM

thanks emy for the info!

i've managed to flash my phone, 4 times actually! flash with latest firmware B7330DXJE1. funny things is that after it reboot, then some preconfiguration and the phone ask (force) to restart. after restart then the language change to vietnamese!

after some reading and experimenting, B7330DXJE1 actually contain english and vietnam language. find your way to languange setting, set to english and restart again, you will get English again. for those who need chinese, sorry guys.

just playing around a little, Alt key changes from abc to 123 (no pinyin). Sym key is default (meaning to launch ie you need to press n hold).

other differences i'll update later. it's 230 now. need to load back all software and PIM tomorrow.

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Added on July 22, 2010, 2:34 amah, default font is different now. not segoe condensed anymore. not sure what font is it. i'll explore more and report.

This post has been edited by uan: Jul 22 2010, 02:35 AM

Wah so quick. You're so adventurous uan. Hope you'd give more feedback about it before I try it. Are you going to keep the firmware or will you flash back to the old firmware? Some questions:
1) Is it confirmed that the pinyin is gone with this firmware? Will definitely will give it a try if it is. But you're Chinese, aren't you? With the pinyin gone, wouldn't it be hard to write chinese?
2) Does the new font look ok? Any screen capture? I like the current segoe condensed font actually
3) Do you use wifi a lot? Is there a problem of it disapperaring in the middle of surfing with the firmware?
4) Can you try AudioNotes on it to auto-record calls? Does it work?
Thanks for the feedbacks
Regards

seems like only we 2 having the fun rite now...
1) pinyin is gone. vietnamese dont use pinyin. i'm not chinese, i am malaysian!
2) screen capture as below. still dont know what is the font. in registry still stated font name is segoe condensed.


3) aha. i had the problem once today. restart and until now wifi missing thing is OK.
4) sorry emy, try audio note but still the same. 0B and 01-Jan01 at the below bar. I wonder what is the problem.

improvement /findings so far:
1-feels like menu navigation is a lot snappy. or just my feeling?
2-StartUp folder was empty. no those unused application (i.e.Mobile Tracker process)
3-not much difference in other aspect. still looking for update log...

Unfortunately uan, B7330 isn't as popular as Nokia E71, so, that's why not a lot of responses to the posts
1) You know what I mean Anyway, good to know pinyin is really gone. Very good reason to upgrade the firmware now. I'll probably upgrade next week. Got some things to do this week, and need the phone in working order
2) Font looks similar. I don't notice any difference
3) So, the wifi bug is still there
4) Disappointing

About the findings:
1- Nice
2- Should I be worried Startup folder is empty? What's Mobile Tracker? I didn't know it existed until you brought it up. Is it used to track our phone if it went missing? How do I track it?
3- Good luck with looking for the update log. I've been searching and asking around for weeks but nobody seems to know it huhu.. Seems like Samsung just made the firmware but never bothered to inform what it does

Also, for SMS, when I first had the phone, I found it laggy, but now, it seems ok to me. I don't remember what I did to make it ok. However, if you read the forum in the firmware website, they mentioned the new firmware has the SMS laggy problem again. However, if you read post no 6 in this thread,
http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/apps/foru...e-b7330dxjc2-fw
it mentions about using a different csc file. If you have SMS laggy problem, you might want to give this a try

yes. sms is a bit lag on repositioning cursor position. but i'm OK with it. dont want to take the risk combining asian pda file with european scs file. anyway, those post were in may.

StartUp folder (in \windows\startup) is where winmo load application and shortcuts when the system started. if you can browse to this folder, you can see 3-4 shortcuts available. this shortcuts launches application / process and some of it stay as background process. even a small process require the hardware resources.

Battery feels last longer. still need to confirm back on this.

Again, all home screen as what it had in previous firmware...

update:

i flashed once again my 7330 but now with different CSC file.


what i have:
1. default english language
2. no pinyin
3. back to segoe condensed font (hate this)
4. new sms button working again
5. back to normal speed when typing and cursor repositioning
6. different SYM window:


still haven't try call recording (sorry emy) but i think it would not work neither.

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Added on August 1, 2010, 1:23 pmon vito call recording:

"Does VITO AudioNotes record phone calls on all devices?
VITO AudioNotes doesn't record phone calls on Pocket PC due to OS and hardware restrictions. It records phones calls only on Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphones. Sometimes it also doesn't record phone calls on Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphones due to hardware restrictions. Currently VITO AudioNotes does not record phone calls on Moto Q and Samsung BlackJack"

source: http://vitotechnology.com/support.php#2

so, vito audio notes does not record call on wm6.5...

This post has been edited by uan: Aug 1 2010, 01:36 PM

Hi uan,
Thanks for the update. I still haven't upgraded the firmware yet. Looks like the most functionalities that I want are all there in the new firmware except auto-call recording. Will give it a try soon
Just want to ask one thing. What app do you use to show the digital clock at the top-bar? Thank you
Regards

it is clock on top. link: smartphone-freeware.com/download-clockontop.html

Hi uan,
Are you still on the new firmware? Am finally thinking of upgrading it next week. From your feedbacks, everything looks good except the lack of mobile tracker. Should I be worried this is not present? I lost my phone once & having mobile tracker might be helpful
Thanks!

hi emy. if you have no problem with current firmware, my advice is just stay with it. unless you want to try something new.

the reason is that i can't find the firmware file for the factory installed firmware. in case for fallback plan. second, i can't find what is the update log for those said 'latest' firmware.

mobile tracker i've never activated it because nothing i hear so far somebody had trace their lost phone from the service.



This post has been edited by uan: Oct 2 2010, 03:06 PM

1 month+ without post, i think b7330 not that popular...
but person who choose function over style would appreciate this phone.

this thread is so quiet.

i have some questions to ask.

1.i'm using Digi. when i go setting->connection->gprs, how come it shows celcom internet, celcom mms, and celcom wap gprs?

2. how do i use zero facebook on this phone? i change to connection to my wap already. still not working. any idea?

proud owner of b7330 reporting in!..

after 2 weeks of using this phone :

-good battery life
-Nice gps locking signal (currently using garmin mobile)
-Great texting device
-Nice keypad layout..using mobile word a lot.


cons:

-browser seems sux..i cannot register the wifi mcd 1st time login..cant browse btm..unable to hit register..duno why.=P
-No custom rom? i google around n show nothing..all using stock factory rom ha?

bro, try opera mobile (not the java opera mini). it's free and better user experience.