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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadbrand Thread V4, Latest:NO cap 4 unifi packages 4 now ^_^

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billytong
post Mar 27 2010, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Mar 27 2010, 08:16 AM)
So, between the HSBB 5 Mbps and the 4 Mbps package, which is more worth it?
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4mbps streamyx, since there do not have any monthly bandwidth cap issue.

HSBB 5mbps "have this no cap" "FOR NOW" thing. That means they can easily cap it in the future. Unless they agree on signing a 2 year contract with NO CAPPING or Reasonable cap bandwidth that most agree on. Dont bother signing up. Promise from word from the Tm CEO alone cannot be trusted, trust ur signed agreement. Black & white sign only talk else ask them fly kite.
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post Mar 27 2010, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Mar 27 2010, 09:23 AM)
If i subscribe for the 5 mbps package with a 2 year contract, the monthly fee is still RM149?
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That u have to read the contract urself. I seriously do not recommend getting HSBB until they have proper draft in the bandwidth cap issue in 2year contract agreement where it is reasonable.

60GB per month is NOT enough even for simple youtubing. It should be 5 times of that, say 300GB.

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post Mar 27 2010, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(bluephoenix87 @ Mar 27 2010, 02:57 PM)
So wouldn't offering users to choose their packages be a more better option???

Like for example;
1) 5 Mbps - 30 GB (RM XXX)/60 GB (RM XXX)/90 GB (RM XXX)
2) 10 Mpbs - 60 GB (RM XXX)/120 GB (RM XXX)/180 GB (RM XXX)
3) 20 Mbps - 120 GB (RM XXX)/180 GB (RM XXX)/ 240 GB (RM XXX)

Additional incentives
- IPTV (RM XX/month)
- Phone packages (RM XX/month)
I would prefer something like above... That way, the bandwidth usage is controlled, and at the same time, everybody compromises...

I believe the main reason why people are pissed right now is because consumers can't choose what they want... lol!
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I actually prefer Rising the cap, and charge extra according to per gigabyte. And allow to bring forward the cap.
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post Mar 27 2010, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(weeluvmal @ Mar 27 2010, 05:07 PM)
capping is simply wrong.

if you can't sustain the bandwidth, don't bother to offer such package.
offering package that can't be fully realized, is call "con".

FUP is just another pathetic way of scrxwing with consumer so that they can over-commit to consumer with bandwidth that they don't already have / can't sustain.
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Which is what I am saying all say, it is like selling a plate of High grade chow keoy Tiao but you can only eat 10% of it then they replace u the lower grade one.
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post Mar 29 2010, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Wan @ Mar 29 2010, 02:45 AM)
RM140 for 4mbps.
RM159 for 5mbps and IPTV.
Basically it's free. Not sure why people are complaining over it.
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Unless they offer decent channel, I cant see what is the reason I need IPTV. Even with Astro, I barely watch it anymore. If it is not because of my parents need to watch it I already cancel Astro looong ago.
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post Mar 29 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(saiaha @ Mar 29 2010, 10:05 AM)
to enhance broadband penetration, lower price of 512/1 MBps streamyx and not 4 MBps. People who are using 1515 (dial-up) wont be using 4 MBps anytime soon.

Only heavy downloaders are complaining about 4 MBps prices as far as I can see.

you dont really need youtube or movie downloads to increase the economy (even though for students there are videos which are beneficial)..

my 2 sen..
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Yeah I need that, who need a big broadband when everything is cap and throttled.
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post Mar 31 2010, 02:19 PM

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So i guess.... Unifi = HIGH speed @ local link..... but 1mbps @ international link?
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post Apr 2 2010, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Apr 2 2010, 10:40 AM)
But I don't like how they force you to take IPTV and voice as well. I guess there's no way else they would've persuaded anyone to take up those plans as the current HSBB-ed homes would probably have Astro already
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Bundling IPTV into different field like broadband service, its like Microsoft bundling IE explorer into their Window. Just look at what Microsoft got themselves into after doing that. If there are anti-trust law here, Astro would have been suing them already. But oh wait nvm... we are in a country that run by a failure government for over 50years.


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post Apr 2 2010, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(bluephoenix87 @ Apr 2 2010, 03:09 PM)
Wonder why the government never looked at awarding it to few ISPs to make it a "Joint effort" between the ISPs... lol!
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Because their intention from the first place is to make sure TMnet is no1 by far from any competitors.
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post Apr 2 2010, 07:08 PM

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I still waiting ISP like P1, metrofon or any of them offering similar package using this backbone. Unless otherwise this public funded fibre backbone is only use to provide TMnet more money, which is already wrong.
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post Apr 3 2010, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_yit @ Apr 3 2010, 01:41 AM)
If the price on offer is not affordable by average malaysian, what about those who lives in te rural area. I got some relatives that are from those area n their household income is sometimes less than 1k/month, How the hell are they gonna afford the 5mb plan?? ask them to fork out rm150 for sumthing they might not know or even use? Heck, they might not even bother to get a HD tele. IPTV for them would be useless. 50% penetration??? Not a chance
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Given the price of 5mbps is RM149, I personally think the low speed broadband like 384kbps should go as low as RM20, not RM60 doh.gif or might as well intro a 256kbps line RM15/month.

IMO, as long as the broadband minimum price remain high, the penetration rate wont go up much

the best would be Unifi replacing streamyx and streamyx going for lower price, targeting lower income group.

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post Apr 3 2010, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeiser @ Apr 3 2010, 07:53 PM)
If after bandwidth quota, you can still get the above mentioned speed, better don't even give a bandwidth quota.

The point of throttling your bandwidth quota was to discourage you from downloading excessively. A 5Mbps line throttled to 1.5Mbps, may as well not throttle at all. You can still download without a care in the world. It defeats the who idea of bandwidth capping.

To me 512kbps, is considered very very good on the ISP part. If i am the ISP, i will throttle you down to 256kbps or slower, so you does not kill the rest of my user base.

At the end of the day we all have to adjust to the fact that there is no "unlimited" bandwidth and adjust our download habits accordingly.
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Actually no, the best way to stop excessively is to charge every GB over the monthly quota, the extra money is good enough to allow TMnet getting extra Internet backbone to coupe with the demand. You dont stop people from doing what they like to do, u charge them for what they do excessively, if they are happy to pay for it, let them be. if they are not happy to pay for it or they cannot afford to pay for it, they will stop themselves.
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post Apr 3 2010, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(almaty @ Apr 3 2010, 08:40 PM)
i am all for download caps as well. however i do not agree with the current 60Gb cap for VIP5.
5Mbits per sec = 5,000,000 bits per sec / 8 =  625,000 bytes per sec

Theoretical Max Usage Per Day:
625,000 bytes per sec x 60 secs x 60 mins x 24 hours = 54,000,000,000 bytes or 54 gigabytes per day

so in essence, the 60Gb quota is equivalent to 1 day ++ of full usage.

i would be more agreeable to a quota of 150Gb per month for VIP5.
ie. roughly 3 days worth of full downloads in a month (30 days) or 10%

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i assume that tm's calc of the download quota will incl both local and overseas bandwidth. we do tend to use more intl bandwidth vs local, say at 80:20 ratio. that 20% local bandwidth costs tm substantially less than intl but is included in our quota.

anyway that 150Gb cap for VIP5 is just my opinion. i think others should start saying how much they think a reasonable cap should be and not just that they want a bigger cap.

for those that do not want a cap at all, maybe you should specify how much you would pay for package like that...
but use BIZ5 as a guide wink.gif
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if ur calculation is right.... even if u pay for 30days of internet but only able to use 3 FULL days still sound extremely cheating and unreasonable to me. What TMnet should be offer is to provide at least 10 Full days of bandwidth. Not 3 days.
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post Apr 4 2010, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(Raven-X @ Apr 3 2010, 11:15 PM)
it's because of pricks like you my connection sux.
u don't own the connection. u just payed for the rental and furthermore, it's your daddy who paid for your internet connection not u so STFU pls.
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I dont think u qualify to post here, especially the whole statement u said is full of personal Attack directed to only the individual poster u quoted.

Report button clicked.
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post Apr 4 2010, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(cshong @ Apr 4 2010, 10:35 AM)
I can't believe you say this.

Are you retarded? Do you really believe that TM or our government cannot afford the cost of upgrading bandwidth? If you really believe that, that means TM or government successfully brainwashed you. I pity you. So kesian.

Many people in this world know that TM and our government want to take our money and put in their own pocket, only those brainwashed or ignorant person never know. Don't tell me you don't know. If you don't know, lol, I just know that their ability of brainwashing people are so powerful. If you know about it, based on your post, you are just the same as those evil who help other evil to brainwash or bully people.
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Dont need to bother with him just hit report button, let to Mod deal the trouble.
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post Apr 4 2010, 06:22 PM

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To make things even discouraging. Who would want to keep downloading the content from International when the Capping measure is "soon to implement in the near future"?

Unless TMnet remove the local content from the capping counter. I dont see this local distribution going anywhere.

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post Apr 4 2010, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Apr 4 2010, 09:14 PM)
the cap is lifted....fren.. doh.gif
i agree with rizvanrp..though how many users are actually going to support this or even contribute to a local peer to peer scene.. nod.gif
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Thing is local to local connection are STILL counted in that CAP thing, which is silly since it is within TMnet network. Dont bother sharing locally since anyone who do will end up reaching that *soon to implement 60GB cap easily. Unless TMnet CLEARLY stated that the *soon to implement 60GB cap is only applies to International Link, which they didnt till now.

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post Apr 10 2010, 11:13 AM

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Lol, those Unifi cable guys are starting laying cables @ Desaparkcity this morning already. tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2010, 06:34 PM

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ok, this is something really makes me wonder. I would still ask here anyway.

We all know Unifi give free fix phone line call right? That means most unifi user would have canceled their copper phone line service. The real question is, does the legacy old school FAX service work on Unifi?(because someone outdated still use fax machine)

It seems not possible as i didnt see any relation between these 2 technologies or any statement TM say it will work with Unifi.
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post Apr 18 2010, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Apr 18 2010, 07:08 PM)
Put the jokes aside.

Did you know that in Japan, Taiwan and South Korea the isps there are sometimes using porn to promote their packages?
They promote with ideas like "view your porn movies smoother with our high end packages as such.."
If you surf to their isps sites somettimes you see very interesting banners.

When will we have such kind of openess?
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