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post Dec 12 2010, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(spid3rx @ Dec 12 2010, 09:07 PM)
I just bought some stareit up to keep since its the lowest price in all the reits counters.
if monkeyking are right. if the next dividend is low, the price might drop again? is divident payout in Feb 2011 ? how to check?
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Huh? Your reason on the price is lowest in reits seems to be unreasonable. The price are about RM1 for all of the reits and the different is not like RM20 and RM1. Lowest price or not does not means cheap or not. It should not be based on just the amount of $ to evaluate it.

STAREIT next dividend payout should be around Feb 2011. Will need to wait for the company to announce it on end of January 2011 then only public can know and check it.
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post Jan 2 2011, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 2 2011, 08:51 PM)
I am kinda agreed with what you said here.
I had done some research on some REITs share prices, and it is only in an increasing manner (except if that company is having mismanagement, or global economy is really bad bad bad, that is other say).

So far, it had been a consistent climb. Slow and steady.
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It has been consistent climb because when economics not good (about 2 years ago), people allocate lesser $ in stock market. Then when economic is getting better, people starting to worry if their $ staying with fd or cash. People wants to earn more when stock market seems to be a lot more profitable.

Anyway, REIT history in Malaysia was still short. Malaysia started with REIT since 2006 only. There will still be risk with REIT if people are too confident with REIT performance. However REIT bubble should be unlikely to happen with current Malaysia situation.
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post Jan 14 2011, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(sixshot @ Jan 13 2011, 09:14 PM)
guys, i have a few question. normally before investing in REIT, what factors one should consider?

- potential return?
- risk?

any other important factor?
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Not much factors to consider. Buy/invest just depends on the return, risk and your willingness.

At least know some background of the REIT that you want to buy and the advice before simply buying anything is to keep some portion of $ in cash just in case that you need it in emergency.
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post Jan 22 2011, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jan 22 2011, 09:46 PM)
minimum is 100 shares.
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I don't think that he/she will know what it means by 100 shares.

100 shares actually means 1 lot. For example, the REIT worth RM1.11. Then minimum investment will be 100 * RM1.11 + Net transaction costs = RM111 + Net transaction cost
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post Feb 13 2011, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 12 2011, 10:14 PM)
So can I assume Kris Asset is the next upcoming big REIT IPO that is going to launch in this year?

Thanks for the quick assessment on STAREIT and ARREIT.. Appreciate those input.
But I would personally like REITs that will have future expansion rather than keeping still. Although ARREIT injection of new asset will result in more shares, it is definitely a good exercise in the long run. I am sure you guys know REITs is not for goreng, right?

SUNREIT is definitely a good choice, and I had a substantial amount of shares there already. Would not mind to continue injecting in more shares into SUNREIT as I really can see a lot of potential in the coming years, as Sunway is actively developing their existing stronghold, and expanding their territory, which is a good move. And with this, I believe anything that are linked with them will benefit from it, such as SUNREIT.

I think I will wait for a while and see if Kris Asset is going to get listed this year. Any information on Kris Asset is most welcomed.
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Kris Assets is already a public listed company (but not REIT). Buy it from the market if you want to. I don't think that any people would know whether will it turn into REIT this year or it may not turn into REIT also.
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post Feb 15 2011, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(Peter_APIIT @ Feb 15 2011, 04:33 PM)
How to invest in Reit ?

Thanks.
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It is just the same way as buying stocks.

Or you don't even have any online trading account yet? Open an account if you haven't. Then you can buy any REIT that you want.
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post Feb 17 2011, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(ripalo @ Feb 17 2011, 08:15 PM)
Can do online trading and need rm30 only......zzz....f***ing maybank and cimb guys....now i wasted my money on fd....f*** them.
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You can cancel your fd.. Don't need any money to cancel it (just lose few days interest = less than RM0.50).
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post Feb 17 2011, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(ripalo @ Feb 17 2011, 09:41 PM)
Oo...don't need to pay anything?

So wait, if i want to register for itrade or something, can someone tell me the PROPER PROCEDURE so i can teach those noobs?
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To cancel your FD, just click for "FD Upliftment/Withdrawal" if you are using online banking eFD. Else if your FD is placed via branch, you will need to go back to the branch to cancel it by telling the staff you want to "FD Upliftment/Withdrawal". (Of course that you don't need to pay anything to cancel your own FD. It is your $ after all.)

The best way for you to check and open cds account is to search for those topic titles related to online trading in this forum. I am sure that those remisier are very willing to answer your question.
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post Feb 21 2011, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Evening @ Feb 21 2011, 10:19 PM)
Cherroy,

So it is Trust ? less risky than shares ?
For example, if shares that we bought in and then the price of shares drop,
then we need add on extra money in order to cover the shares pricing drop from the price we 1st time bought in.

So, how about for Reits ?
What's the differ in between Trusts & Shares ?
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Lol. You are writing as you are playing FKLI futures.
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post Feb 21 2011, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Evening @ Feb 21 2011, 10:32 PM)
FKLI futures ?  sweat.gif
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Don't need to be confused by the word trust. Just need to know that REIT is not something like unit trust such as Public Mutual Uniti Trust.

Generally, there is just some difference between REIT and stock by the way of doing business, tax and regulation. Other than that, stock and REIT are almost equal.smile.gif
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post Mar 4 2011, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(connectkey @ Mar 4 2011, 06:28 PM)
any REIT go bankrupt or delisted before?
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I think got 1 being delisted on year 2009.

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post Mar 4 2011, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(connectkey @ Mar 4 2011, 10:30 PM)
thanks for reply


Added on March 4, 2011, 10:31 pm

known of wt reason?


Added on March 4, 2011, 10:33 pmif it will run into financial problem,it is not safe for those retiree to put their pension fund into reit right?
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Did not check about the details on it. But higher risk will always exists if any people try to sought for higher return.

REIT income is usually based on rental and they usually borrow loans from bank to buy property. Some possible situation that may harm a REIT is that they are not able to rent their property / the rent price are lower than expected / force sale on their property / the property being bomb by terrorist(never seen this happen in Malaysia but who knows)....
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post Mar 7 2011, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(ripalo @ Mar 7 2011, 07:31 PM)
Hmmm, I tried buying REIT today. Had a few problems though.

1) I checked eDeposit in my Cimb iTrade account. Apparently I deposited RM1500 but it did not come out in my Cimb eSettlement. And of course my credit limit = RM0.00

2) The transaction cost for RM100 is RM29.03, RM1000 is RM 29.30. Why is it so much? I thought they said Brokerage fee is 0.44% only?  It looks like net transaction fee starts from RM29? Why so?
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You have to check with itrade customer service on your account. The transaction cost showed in the itrade account may not be true. Ask them whether how much is your minimum brokerage fee.
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post Mar 8 2011, 10:19 PM

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If the REIT able to survive, then no need to sell also. Just wait until you recover and earn $ is an option too.

Other than that, you can choose to buy more during crisis (but make sure that you are not buying a REIT that got financial problem that time).

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post Mar 9 2011, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 9 2011, 08:04 PM)
Not as simple as rental. We need to consider interest hike which will affect the net profit.
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Then should include the comparison of interest rate and dividend also. (If FD rate is 6% per year, who would want to buy a REIT which provide 6.5% dividend per year?)...

Too many things to consider if really want to.
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post Mar 9 2011, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Mar 9 2011, 09:03 PM)
6% It can hardly even happen in my dreams.
If there are such offerings, I reckon the depositor need to lock $$$ for a long long period..

REIT is liquid smile.gif And have some good capital appreciation if the covered places are good..
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I remember year 1997 got once hike up to 6+% FD..zzz. Then market crash

Just checked on malaysia fixed deposit rate history. It seems like my memory was not wrong. In fact, FD rate was very high for many years. Just that starting from year 2000 government let OPR to be low. Then time has passes more about 10+ years and we forgot that FD can be high.

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post Mar 10 2011, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 9 2011, 10:53 PM)
The market crash is because of Asian currency crisis and being under "attacked", which force central banks to raise interest rate to attract/defend their currency.

It is not because rate went higher that crash the market.

You need to look at economy situation. With ample liquidity around, it is very unlikely FD rate can go very high.
The max I can see is around 3-4% for near term only or next 2-4 years time.

Back before 1997, economy was running hot, money was not enough, financial system was "hungry" for money.
Now situation reverse, banks have too much money.
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Banks currently have a lot money so they loan a lot to the customers. Individual and companies borrowed a lot since interest are low. Banks in Malaysia looks healthy now but when a lot of individual and companies don't pay back their money(installment) to bank. When it happens, Malaysia will be lacking of money, FD rate will increase because the system is lack of money, borrowing rate is high and REIT cannot earn much compared with FD.

Not sure whether how reliable is BNM/Basel II/Basel III.

I am not saying REIT is not good but we cannot deny the possibility and its impact. Who able to predict terrorist hijacked a plane and crashed it to World Trade Center in New York? There will still exists the possibility that FD rate to be very high (people may say it is negligible chance but it is actually not negligible when you evaluate the impact).

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post Mar 15 2011, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(HJebat @ Mar 15 2011, 01:43 PM)
REIT dividend is about 7-8%. Minus withholding tax, should around 6-7%. Almost the same as ASW / ASM. This should be a better comparison than FD, no?
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REIT dividend is something like fixed income (it is mainly depends on rent except BSDREIT) as compared with ASW / ASM.

REIT / FD / Bond are almost like fixed income (although REIT / FD / Bond are different).

ASW / ASM provide dividend which was quite constant but it still depends much on the investment profit that year. So people usually compare REIT with FD.
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post Mar 16 2011, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(HJebat @ Mar 16 2011, 12:01 PM)
ya, the quota thing is the limitation. Still, ASM & ASW offer zero risk (almost), which is why i post the question. With REIT, as long as you have bullets to shoot, it's fire all the way til you run out of ammos  laugh.gif
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Impossible almost zero risk for ASM & ASW. I know that they constantly pay good dividend but they are still investing in stocks market.

We can only say that ASM & ASW have skillful trader / portfolio manager.
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post Apr 5 2011, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Apr 5 2011, 12:55 PM)
susahlah to be a small trader,nobody seems to want to sell 1-2 lots.started trading yesterday,is this normal?
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I think that you have been seriously misunderstood. If you want to buy 1-2 lots, you can buy it if you queue at the correct price or you queued longer duration than others people. You do not need to wait for a seller to sell 1-2 lots to match your order.

Let say you queue to buy at RM1 for 2 lots and there is a seller to sell at RM1 for 100 lots. Then it will happen that you bought 2 lots at RM1 while the seller still remaining 98 lots to sell.

If you do not want to queue at a stingy price, then just buy at higher price.

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