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post Apr 24 2010, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 22 2010, 10:36 PM)
Stay away from pain. Muscular pain is good. All other pain, is NOT.


Added on April 23, 2010, 1:07 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6mRbQG-PL4&feature=player_embedded

You guys have GOT to watch this. A 320KG squat for 5, a 250KG squat for triples in less than 4 seconds, a 200KG snatch and a 230KG bench press. The best part? His training regime consists of snatch, clean and jerk and squats, twice a day, to maximum, completely annihilating normal sport principles. He doesn't deload, he doesn't periodize, his training is not even a dual-factor training or single-factor training method, it's just max max max.

And he doesn't even bench! That's why he's not so good at it, as you can see when his legs moved up. And 19 months ago, he was only squatting 220KG.
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no doubt big numbers on the squat, but how come his legs look kinda small.
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post May 2 2010, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ May 1 2010, 06:58 PM)
Had 15 sets of squats yesterday. Got up this morning, felt like having a fever for abit, then everything went fine. No one wants to tag along sheiko with me? sad.gif

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hey shane, wat's your leg training like?

QUOTE(david890701 @ May 2 2010, 07:57 PM)
yeah me! Squat hit new PR at 145kg and deadlift at 170kg! wooohooo.
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PR 145kg x 1? what's your leg routine?

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yes yes.. i'm a leg person smile.gif
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post May 3 2010, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ May 3 2010, 11:08 AM)
Sure can. I think more interval rest sorta helps for me. after every set of squats my knee feels like a biatch. I totally understand this because this pain came back when I used to road cycle for donkey kilometers. So yea, I can't afford that much of recovery supps, I have fish oil and magnesium tablets. some vit E. Thats about it. Maybe I should consider some joint support supps. So should you. So, no roses for you. haha
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 3 2010, 11:20 AM)
My knees felt best when I use about 15Gms of fish oil (Jarrows 1200MG type. Can't afford Flameout or Poliquin's), multivitamins and about 50 reps of bodyweight squats a day after training. Just to get those quads working overtime.

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just to share, started taking fish oil and do notice improvement in energy level. Feeling Grrreaaat! (dono if it's just mental)

EFA

Essential fatty acids are necessary for maintaining high testosterone levels. They also keep the energy levels up and are necessary for fat soluble vitamins. They take a long time to digest and so they are great for people that are hungry all the time because it keeps them full even during workout.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek37.htm

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/now8.htm

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post May 28 2010, 04:34 PM

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thot of sharing a vid on strength smile.gif



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZsAj4qpGoc

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post May 30 2010, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(dzulxx @ May 30 2010, 12:06 PM)
Wow after 2 weeks off, no longer can squat my PR.. heck not even close... and I hurt my knee as well.. what a shitty workout..

Do I really need to build it up again!!
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sometimes, i do question this myself.. what is true strength? if skipping 1wk or so results in losing so much poundage. (continue pondering)
anyone else have any thots on this?

QUOTE(dzulxx @ May 30 2010, 06:22 PM)
Yeah I knew that. I reduced 25kg from my PR hoping to get higher rep...but only managed to get my normal 5 reps... n less

But my knee injury... I dont know where it came from... my full squat normally doesnt strain the knees...
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maybe the 25kg reduction is too much?
i've tried the lowering weight + up the reps. works for me

regarding the strain. i guessing cld be u didnt maintain tight-ness? abs, glutes, back

btw anyone know how to fix my youtube link above so it displays properly?(......searching)

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post Sep 15 2010, 06:38 AM

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came across this interesting article on General Physical Preparedness (GPP)

what i got from it is basically 'having more gas in the tank'... and more gas is what i actually NEEEDD *pant pant*
so how has GPP exercises helped help u in your training & what are your GPP exercises? do share your experience

hmm, think i shld be incorporating back HIIT or complexes.

Are You Strong But Out Of Shape?

The concept behind General Physical Preparedness (GPP) is the development of basic fitness skills-flexibility, strength, endurance and speed-by doing mostly functional exercises or movements that involve multiple muscle groups. It's basically all about balance in your body and building a good solid base using old school exercises that involve as many different muscle groups as possible. GPP is not a "style" of training but rather, it is a component of training-and it doesn't require and special training or fancy equipment.

If you are interested in developing balance among fitness, strength and size, then you ought to be taking a good look at GPP. For example, a guy can lift and lift and lift until he's as big as an ox with bulging muscles of steel but be short of breath from a climb up a flight of stairs.
Or, if you are into competitive sports, adding the GPP component to your training mix can really give you a competitive edge. Guys also use GPP to improve weak spots, to be more adaptable, improve their overall fitness levels and to boost and speed up their bodies' capacity to recover.

The sled pull, tire flip, farmer's walk, wheelbarrow push and plate lifting are some of the more common GPP exercises around. In doing any of these exercises you start out with a goal of doing it for maybe ten minutes or so, with a long-term goal of working up to about 30 minutes. It's important to remember this part: Once you reach 30 minutes, don't keep striving to be able to do longer stretches of time. Rather, enhance your capacity by increasing the weight, not the amount of time you're doing the exercises. This is where you'll really see improvements in your performance

One of the great things about GPP is that it involves compound exercises that require you to use multiple muscle groups and multiple skills (balance, coordination, etc.) at the same time. By doing compound exercises you're not only improving your all around fitness level but you're also significantly lowering your risk of injuring yourself. Lots of bodybuilders get totally caught up in building size, focusing on doing the same exercises over and over again. By keeping the focus just on the muscles that you see in the mirror (the "beach muscles") and not training the core, they are setting themselves up for injury.

Powerlifters are equally guilty on totally concentrating on their maximum strength without paying much attention to their hearts or work capacity. If you can squat 700 pounds you should be able to squat 225 for 15 reps without getting totally winded. Many powerlifters myself included could use the fat burning benefits of incorporating some GPP training. Maybe there'd be a little more gas in the tank by the time the deadlift rolls around on meet day.

the rest of the article below

http://www.fitnessatlantic.com/general_phy...reparedness.htm
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post Oct 3 2010, 09:03 AM

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anyone selling tractor tire?
btw cool DIY sled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLCbX89Ut5w


anyways appreciate some feedback on the below scenario
"increasing load consistently is key to increasing muscle mass"
so which is better? and to do it consistently 3x a week

option 1
squatting
5 x 12 @ 100kg
total weight - 6000kg

option 2
5 x 6 @ 120kg
total weight - 3600kg
*progressing with higher load altho at lower total weight
*weekly incremental weight possible or less rest time

option 3
10 x 6 @ 120kg - 7200kg
*recovery & the fatigue carried over

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post Oct 9 2010, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 4 2010, 11:56 AM)
Increasing load consistently, is key. However, you cannot increase load constantly, as the body plateaus after a certain amount of time. Also without, changing the other variables that contribute to the total tonnage of the squat, deadlift and bench, you would be training very boringly and sometimes, these "dark times" can last for months (Up to 12 months), where you constantly do the same thing, but see no results whatsoever.

The better way of training is to switch the variables such as tempo, rest timing, exercise selection, weight selection, deload, load. Also your  repetition ranges are extremely odd for someone hoping to build strength instead of muscle.

Personally I subscribe to the conjugate periodization methodology, and I arrange them between 4-16 week blocks depending on the length of training of my lifting clients. 4 weeks for more advanced lifters, 16 weeks maybe even up to 20 weeks for newbies. Also as the maturity changes, the load and set/rep scheme changes. I change to a lower repetition method as the lifter progresses, but usually once every fifth session, there will be a change in main exercise selection. Some recommend, 3 some 4, I prefer five.

That way the lifter will constantly see progress in the squat, bench and deadlift.
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reading on this.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjugate_method
http://danjohn.net/pdfs/ii15.pdf
http://westside-barbell.com/westside-artic...te%20Method.pdf

makes sense to strengthen other muscles which in the end lead to better lift
train multiple qualities at once.. hmm

pizzaboy
any particular exercises you can reco & implement?

Reverse Hyper
Pullthrough
Box squat


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post Oct 10 2010, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 9 2010, 04:58 PM)
Before I can recommend anything, I need to know, what movement is it, you're trying to better on? Where are the specific points of weaknesses? You need to talk movement and muscle.
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the down & up movement of the squat. don't know my weak points? perhaps can hv a meet to share your expertise? smile.gif
where do you train?

basically looking for other support exercise to strengthen the other muscles to improve the above movement

http://stronglifts.com/how-to-squat-with-p...ommon-problems/
http://stronglifts.com/50-ways-to-increase-your-squat/

QUOTE(Syd G @ Oct 4 2010, 04:16 PM)
Anyone brave enough to admit of urine incontinence during lifting?
personally have not gone that heavy before OR i make sure to go to the loo before squatting smile.gif
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post Dec 4 2010, 08:38 PM

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share your mobility, activation & SMR routine.
do you implement them in your pre/post training?

i got this from a vid by eric cressey

1. Lying Knee To Knee Pull Ins http://ericcressey.com/exercise-of-the-wee...to-knee-stretch
2. Split Stance Kneeling Adductor Mobs
3. Wall Hip Flexor Mobs http://ericcressey.com/exercise-of-the-wee...or-mobilization
4. Wall Ankle Mobs
5. Squat to Stand w/diagonal reach
6. Walking spiderman w/hip lift and overhead reach

and some SMR recently - quad & ham
so what's your?

 

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