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post Mar 22 2010, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Mar 21 2010, 08:35 PM)
If the principal owner is successful why then should he franchised his business? whistling.gif
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Franchising his/her business does not mean he/she is not successful. It is merely another way to expand his/her business empire. Some people choose to franchise their business, some choose to open stores through their own funding, some choose to ask funding from Venture Capitalist, some choose to go public listing etc.

QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 21 2010, 10:45 PM)
DarkNite,

Do you know how to run a successful business in the first place? Successful people USE leverage, while average people work like a COW and never successful. That is why not everybody can be successful because they have average minds.

Keep in mind that franchising is NOT selling off a business.
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Well said. Franchising is merely another way in expanding the business empire. Leverage is always the key to business.
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post Mar 22 2010, 02:26 AM

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I'm seriously interested in Franchising McDonald.

Heard it is around RM3mil (30% have to be equity, the remainder 70% can be debt), got to have a good track record and helps if you have a recommendation from a fellow McDonald owner.

Anyone currently running a McD franchise?


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QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 21 2010, 10:45 PM)
junkeat,

Read up more about franchising and learn the meaning of it. If one needs field experience in the industry, why should he/she subscribe to the franchise?

By the way, not only F&B business can be franchised. ANY niche and unique business can be franchised. Haven't heard of franchised kindergartens? What about franchised salons? Or even franchised car rental business? I have advised you to read up to expand your knowledge.
DarkNite,

Do you know how to run a successful business in the first place? Successful people USE leverage, while average people work like a COW and never successful. That is why not everybody can be successful because they have average minds.

Keep in mind that franchising is NOT selling off a business.
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Read the tittle, TS is interested in F & B. and we are talking about F & B here.
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QUOTE(dopp @ Mar 21 2010, 08:57 PM)
Because, if the principal owner is located in KL and want to expand his business nationwide.. Who is he going to trust to handle money in Penang branch, KEdah branch, resources/planing ..etc.  And who else is better understanding the local market, then the local himself.

Easiest way out is to franchise... and earn constant income , initial income(ppl sign up with him, he already earn tons) and monthly income( income base on gross profit, rugi oso have to pay the principal owner).

Got it?
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Easier said than done. Do you know the failure rate for franchised in Malaysia? Whilst there maybe some truth in the local guy understanding the local market, many a times the local guy does not REALLY understand the business or being a franchisee.

QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 21 2010, 10:45 PM)
DarkNite,

Do you know how to run a successful business in the first place? Successful people USE leverage, while average people work like a COW and never successful. That is why not everybody can be successful because they have average minds.

Keep in mind that franchising is NOT selling off a business.
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You maybe right about leverage but business is not all about leverage. If the is no mutual understanding about the business, growth, roles that each other play and its ramification, then the symbiosis collapse! Partnership of franchiser and franchisee turns sour.


Added on March 22, 2010, 10:19 am
QUOTE(douchebag2 @ Mar 22 2010, 02:26 AM)
I'm seriously interested in Franchising McDonald.

Heard it is around RM3mil (30% have to be equity, the remainder 70% can be debt), got to have a good track record and helps if you have a recommendation from a fellow McDonald owner.

Anyone currently running a McD franchise?
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Do you have RM3mil cash in the Bank?
Where do you intent on opening your outlet or taking over from the principal holder?
Are you willing to commit 1.5year of your life to working in the restaurant without any income from McD?

This post has been edited by DarkNite: Mar 22 2010, 10:21 AM
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post Mar 22 2010, 02:49 PM

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"Do you have RM3mil cash in the Bank?
Where do you intent on opening your outlet or taking over from the principal holder?
Are you willing to commit 1.5year of your life to working in the restaurant without any income from McD?"


Question 1 I rather not say.

I have a place which I feel would be the right location for a McDonalds. No McDonalds around the area.

"Are you willing to commit 1.5year of your life to working in the restaurant without any income from McD?"
Could you further specify what you mean by the above sentence?
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post Mar 22 2010, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(douchebag2 @ Mar 22 2010, 02:49 PM)
"Do you have RM3mil cash in the Bank?
Where do you intent on opening your outlet or taking over from the principal holder?
Are you willing to commit 1.5year of your life to working in the restaurant without any income from McD?"
Question 1 I rather not say.

I have a place which I feel would be the right location for a McDonalds. No McDonalds around the area.

"Are you willing to commit 1.5year of your life to working in the restaurant without any income from McD?"
Could you further specify what you mean by the above sentence?
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No McD around does not constitute good location. Example in Mid-Valley there are 2 McD outlet. For a McD outlet to be successful you need traffic generator - example like schools, petrol kiosk, LRT/MRT station & hospital.

You need to be in McD training program for about 1.5yrs depending on your capabilities before they let you operate your own outlet. It is a fulltime program and can't delegate or appoint someone to represent you.
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It great to have a thread like this.

Let say I have spotted a F & B store oversea and wanted to bring it back home. My questions:
1) Is it compulsory to registered it under Malaysia Franchise Association ?
2) Can I park it under a partnership company or sdn bhd or no need company.

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QUOTE(simple.ology @ Mar 22 2010, 04:31 PM)
It great to have a thread like this.

Let say I have spotted a F & B store oversea and wanted to bring it back home. My questions:
1) Is it compulsory to registered it under Malaysia Franchise Association ?
2) Can I park it under a partnership company or sdn bhd or no need company.
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1.To register under MFA is to secure u and your franchaisor. U can suggest them to bring in to malaysia and let u own sole franchaiship in malaysia.

2. Dont know.
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QUOTE(simple.ology @ Mar 22 2010, 04:31 PM)
It great to have a thread like this.
Let say I have spotted a F & B store oversea and wanted to bring it back home. My questions:
1) Is it compulsory to registered it under Malaysia Franchise Association ?
2) Can I park it under a partnership company or sdn bhd or no need company.
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MFA is only an association.
It is better to have the legal documents look thru by a Malaysian lawyer and an agreed clause as to who and which country will both of you seek redress in case of dispute.


Added on March 22, 2010, 7:08 pm
QUOTE(simple.ology @ Mar 22 2010, 04:31 PM)
2) Can I park it under a partnership company or sdn bhd or no need company.
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Definately under a Sdn Bhd company, for ease of admin, financial and taxation purpose. wink.gif


This post has been edited by DarkNite: Mar 22 2010, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(junkeat @ Mar 22 2010, 09:20 AM)
Read the tittle, TS is interested in F & B. and we are talking about F & B here.
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junkeat,

That is funny. The question posted by the particular poster reads "with 500k cash, what franchise can i open? any good suggestion?" Also, the title reads "Franchising businesses". Where did you find the word "F&B" in the context? Do I need to teach you to read?

P.S. Oldtown, Pappa Rich and McDonald's were just examples given by TS, which does not indicate that TS is ONLY interested in F&B. Don't try to turn the story around.

QUOTE(simple.ology @ Mar 22 2010, 04:31 PM)
It great to have a thread like this.

Let say I have spotted a F & B store oversea and wanted to bring it back home. My questions:
1) Is it compulsory to registered it under Malaysia Franchise Association ?
2) Can I park it under a partnership company or sdn bhd or no need company.
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simple.ology,

You will need to apply for a Master Franchise from the franchisor, or find the existing Master Franchisor in Malaysia. You can't just start a franchise brought in from another country because you need a different management company in each country.


Added on March 22, 2010, 8:40 pm
QUOTE(DarkNite @ Mar 22 2010, 10:15 AM)
You maybe right about leverage but business is not all about leverage. If the is no mutual understanding about the business, growth, roles that each other play and its ramification, then the symbiosis collapse! Partnership of franchiser and franchisee turns sour.
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DarkNite,

I was responding directly to your previous question which reads "If the principal owner is successful why then should he franchised his business?"

This post has been edited by Jordy: Mar 22 2010, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 22 2010, 08:32 PM)
I was responding directly to your previous question which reads "If the principal owner is successful why then should he franchised his business?"
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No worries...
Like I said successful business is NOT always about leverage especially where franchising is concern.

BTW
Since this thread is about Franchise Business, anybody know of any franchise in Malaysia that is successful?
Please don't quote JV partnership with the original/direct principal holder, ok?
The answers would be interesting as to where perspective franchisee should park/invest their money in, no?
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How bout Secret Recipe?
Has been around for few years and still expanding albeit alil slower.
Expanded to Australia this year IIANM.

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"You need to be in McD training program for about 1.5yrs depending on your capabilities before they let you operate your own outlet. It is a fulltime program and can't delegate or appoint someone to represent you."

Darknitez are you serious? This seriously blows.
Do you happened to know whether the training program is after working hours or during the weekends?

I guess a way around it is to be a sleeping partner? Say owning 49% of the franchise and your partner owns 51%?
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QUOTE(Vengeance_Mad @ Mar 22 2010, 09:59 PM)
How bout Secret Recipe?
Has been around for few years and still expanding albeit alil slower.
Expanded to Australia this year IIANM.
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They started in 1997, and now are also in Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, China, Philippines and Pakistan. Which or have many outlets are franchised in Malaysia? hmm.gif
I know several successful outlet are own by the founder's family member, does that counts?

QUOTE(douchebag2 @ Mar 22 2010, 11:19 PM)
Darknitez are you serious? This seriously blows.
Do you happened to know whether the training program is after working hours or during the weekends?
I guess a way around it is to be a sleeping partner? Say owning 49% of the franchise and your partner owns 51%?
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It is a fulltime training program as franchisee must successfully complete the training. They have stipulated that the person must be be willing to devote his or her full time and best efforts to the day-to-day operations of the restaurant.
And they also says they do not franchise restaurants to partners or investors. However, they will consider 'sleeping-in-the-same bed or roof' partner aka spouse/family member, provided that one family member is dedicated to running McDonald's on a full time basis.

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post Mar 23 2010, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 22 2010, 08:32 PM)
junkeat,

That is funny. The question posted by the particular poster reads "with 500k cash, what franchise can i open? any good suggestion?" Also, the title reads "Franchising businesses". Where did you find the word "F&B" in the context? Do I need to teach you to read?

P.S. Oldtown, Pappa Rich and McDonald's were just examples given by TS, which does not indicate that TS is ONLY interested in F&B. Don't try to turn the story around.
Nvm..u will realise wat mostly talking here is F & B rather than franchaise other type of business.
Since TS already point out F & B, therefore most of the forummer talk about F & B here. But other type of business is interested by TS or not. We dunno.

Of course title didnt find any word F & B in the context but if u r sincere to read what TS trying to indicate u will understand more.

By the way, as question ask. What shop can be franchaise with 500k ? U didnt answer it by just saying lot can be franchaise even like kindergarden. Please provide accurate answer if u can but just saying other type of business can be franchaise. Your reply in forum more like entertainning more than giving suggestion.

If u know do share info with us. If u dun , please dont entertain or spam the forum just answering like u know.

This post has been edited by junkeat: Mar 23 2010, 09:05 AM
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thanks junkeat, darknite and jordy for the advise.

BTW, for 1901, with under 100k you can have your pushcart ready and do your business..... http://www.franchisemecd.gov.my/web/guest/makanan_n


Added on March 23, 2010, 3:20 pmand other than F&B franchise

convenient store such as 7-11 is also possible...
but you will need to have a store ready/in place ... and the franchise fees is 25,000 or 15% daripada untung kasar yang diperolehi daripada kedai sedia ada..... (but i'm not sure it's per year or per mths.... if per mths then OMG>>>) http://www.franchisemecd.gov.my/web/guest/kedai_c

but for 99 speed mart i think it's slightly cheaper....
http://www.franchisemecd.gov.my/web/guest/kedaikemudahan

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QUOTE(simple.ology @ Mar 23 2010, 03:13 PM)
thanks junkeat, darknite and jordy for the advise.

BTW, for 1901, with under 100k you can have your pushcart ready and do your business..... http://www.franchisemecd.gov.my/web/guest/makanan_n


Added on March 23, 2010, 3:20 pmand other than F&B franchise

convenient store such as 7-11 is also possible...
but you will need to have a store ready/in place ... and the franchise fees is 25,000 or 15% daripada untung kasar yang diperolehi daripada kedai sedia ada..... (but i'm not sure it's per year or per mths.... if per mths then OMG>>>) http://www.franchisemecd.gov.my/web/guest/kedai_c

but for 99 speed mart i think it's slightly cheaper....
http://www.franchisemecd.gov.my/web/guest/kedaikemudahan
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1901 under 100k, how long u may have the license ?
I don't suggest 7-11 because KK trying to wipe out 7-11
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QUOTE(simple.ology @ Mar 23 2010, 03:13 PM)
thanks junkeat, darknite and jordy for the advise.

BTW, for 1901, with under 100k you can have your pushcart ready and do your business..... http://www.franchisemecd.gov.my/web/guest/makanan_n


Added on March 23, 2010, 3:20 pmand other than F&B franchise

convenient store such as 7-11 is also possible...
but you will need to have a store ready/in place ... and the franchise fees is 25,000 or 15% daripada untung kasar yang diperolehi daripada kedai sedia ada..... (but i'm not sure it's per year or per mths.... if per mths then OMG>>>) http://www.franchisemecd.gov.my/web/guest/kedai_c

but for 99 speed mart i think it's slightly cheaper....
http://www.franchisemecd.gov.my/web/guest/kedaikemudahan
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F&B business is VERY tough. Only 1 of 100 is successful, and this also without taking in the hawker and small food gerai that gone bust. The only people are making money are the second hand kitchen equipment guys

1901 trend is past, more over, most choice spot are already taken.

7-11 is also possible as the 1st 50 franchisee will 'SURE' make money, part of the parent marketing strategy to attract more franchisee. If I'm not mistake their target is 200 or more franchisee. They have to open additional 4000 outlet in 5 years on top of what they are having right now. If the principal play their cards right then nobody can match or compete with them, to the extent that even the hypermarket will view them as a competitor.

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QUOTE(junkeat @ Mar 23 2010, 09:04 AM)
Nvm..u will realise wat mostly talking here is F & B rather than franchaise other type of business.
Since TS already point out F & B, therefore most of the forummer talk about F & B here. But other type of business is interested by TS or not. We dunno.

Of course title didnt find any word F & B in the context but if u r sincere to read what TS trying to indicate u will understand more.

By the way, as question ask. What shop can be franchaise with 500k ? U didnt answer it by just saying lot can be franchaise even like kindergarden. Please provide accurate answer if u can but just saying other type of business can be franchaise. Your reply in forum more like entertainning more than giving suggestion.

If u know do share info with us. If u dun , please dont entertain or spam the forum  just answering like u know.
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junkeat,

If you know me, I do not spam on this forum. Since this thread is talking about franchise businesses, so you should not assume that the thread is only limited to F&B. I will only provide my advice to people who are sincere to accept their mistakes and learn, but by the way you sound, you're not sincere to admit to your own mistake.

If you know more than me, then you should not say that no other F&B businesses can't be franchised with RM500k. I will only tell you what other F&B franchises can be subscribed with RM500k if you are sincere to learn.
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I didnt say no other business other than F & B can be franchaise with 500k. We are talking about F & B here. If u have any idea what can be franchaise with 500k even without 500k u should comment it but seems your ego cause read it with flame. Please comment if u know if not dont just reply to spam thead.



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