KUALA LUMPUR: Great news for couch potatoes! 3D TVs will be arriving on Malaysian shores by mid-April.

Samsung has confirmed that its range of 3D TVs will be available for retail next month.

Samsung Malaysia Electronics Sdn Bhd marketing director Jimmy Tan said there would be multiple choices available – starting from 40-inch models – but prices had yet to be determined.

“We are very excited with this new technology,” he said. “This is a new offering to the customer and will add on to his enjoyment of watching movies and sports content.


Excited: A woman watching a 3D TV using light-emitting diodes at the main office of Samsung Electronics in Seoul in this recent filepicture. — AFP

“There are limited opportunities to watching 3D movies in theatres but now customers can bring it into their homes. This is a totally new dimension in television for customers and something they can look forward to,” said Tan.

However, Panasonic Malaysia corporate communications and branding general manager Azizah Wahid said there is no news yet on the availability of Panasonic 3D TVs in Malaysia.

Last week, delegates to the Asia-Pacific Broadcasting Union (ABU) Digital Broadcasting Symposium 2010 held here were treated to a demonstration of the 3D TV.

The exhibit was brought in by Benchmark Systems (S) Pte Ltd, which also gave a demonstration of 3D post-production, the first of its kind in the region.

Viewers have to wear specially-designed polarising glasses to perceive a stereoscopic 3D image. Without the glasses, the picture would appear blurry, with ghosted double images.

“This is the best 3D effect I have seen on television,” said Benchmark’s exhibitor Mithun Dsouza.

“The image depth is excellent, as well as the brightness and richness of the colours,” he said.

The recent success of 3D movies such as the Oscar-winning Avatar, has sparked massive increase in the technology and manufacturers have been scrambling to bring their products into the market.

Panasonic and Samsung have started selling 3D TVs in the United States while other manufacturers such as Sony and LG will be launching their models this year.

Units range from US$2,500 to US$3,300 (RM8,300 to RM11,000).

The unit demonstrated during the symposium was from Japanese manufacturers JVC, whose monitors were used extensively during the production of Avatar.


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Wow! RM8000 to RM11000 just for the TV....
Better if I buy the new lappy...

Better i get a complete HT with 7.1 AMP AVR and LCD 42'..

but they hurt my eyes a lil, n make me dizzy.... heh

Better stick with what you have at the moment..spending money on something does not worth the satisfaction must be avoided completely + its not gonna be here that soon init..

well i wanna ask, does it mean what ever you input into this 3d TV it will process and reproduce into 3D images? wow, imagine watching astro movies, Wah li tai, and Discovery channel.,,. TV1 TV2 and so on,,,,

If it is true, then watching nice entertainment movies are really much more exciting... everything is popping out of the screen,, mmmm yummy

I wonder how prawn looks like 3D...

eh, not yet reach our shores, how can make you eyes hurt and dizzy?
you part of tester?

The TV guys conveniently don't talk about that. The answer is no.

i believe watching 3D TV is not very convenient, well, you gotta HOOK UP THE FREAKING GLASSES first..hahaha..does the glasses comes in variety of sizes?

unless you use it once it a while, for *SPECIAL* entertaiment, you know what i mean

Agree, we are not going to put on the glasses all the time to watch any 3D shows, its rather irritating then enjoyable..

NO If 3D TVs can turn any source into 3D,then cinemas showing 3D movies like Avatar can close shop?LOL

You would need to pair up 3D TVs with 3D sources to get a 3D experience..

Astro HD has just only upgraded to HD broadcast and don't expect 3D anytime soon....let's just say 5-6 years time

mak ai....
tak mampu eden....

No....glass-less 3D TV will be the future viewing experience and not those requiring the geeky glasses

There is a TV that can convert conventional 2D signal to 3D.. They said it worked pretty well but improvement is always appreciated.. Read up here, brought to you by CNET..

http://news.cnet.com/3d-tv-faq/?tag=mncol;mlt_related

10. Can I use my existing HDMI cables?

"At this point, it appears you can. We've heard conflicting reports from manufacturers, but the best information we have indicates that most current HDMI cables, including the inexpensive ones CNET recommends, will work fine with the new 3D formats. One caveat is that that longer cables, say over three feet, might have problems. We'll be able to confirm once we can test one of the new 3D TVs with a 3D Blu-ray player, but until then we recommend trying to use your old cables before spending extra on "high-speed," "HDMI 1.4-certified" or "3D-ready" HDMI cables."

3D TV requires HDMI 1.4 certified cables or 3D ready which probably will not be reaching here in years time, its gonna cost fortunes to purchase this type of cables..

Still can't be confirmed yet but Sony already said that their home computer entertainment system aka PlayStation 3 will be able to support 3D via firmware update that might arrive in unison this June with Sony's 3D TV sale/launch..

like that ah? cannot automatic one ah... no point looking at it ,, just go harvey norman and try try can loh, the TV will cost a bomb, then the software will cost again sommore,
now you have bluray transformer 1, then you want to buy again 3d version of transformer 1, what the heck, bloody hell these company really sucking the money out of the consumers,, so i would still stick to MKV, cheap , nice , watchable and great sound, so unless the source can get from internet, at a better price per bargain, then we all can go into 3D TV, meanwhile, enjoy them in HN and best denki.

Starting selling price for 3D TV from RM8-11K, isn't too much to ask for... Last year the LCD 46-55" was about that price range already....

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Added on March 14, 2010, 10:18 pmNot like when Plasma was introduced many years back, it was in RM30-40K range if I remember correctly ...

This post has been edited by geforce1999: Mar 14 2010, 10:19 PM

3D tv .... better wait and see first....

agree with u..

I think better spend on the audio first..

COs good sound can make 2D to 3D...

Well, unless someone starts transmitting 3D TV programming.

Only merit I can think of for this 3DTV is when Sony launch their new PS3 firmware to support such TVs and accompanying Blu-Ray titles. Apart from that, A$$tro isn't even really interested in bringing in new channels for HD, why would they even bother with 3D?

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Mar 15 2010, 12:16 PM

Still feels kinda weird to having to wear polarize glasses at home all the time.

Yup, best to sit it out.

Since we're not watching in the movie theater, don't we need really BIG TVs to fully immerse ourselves in 3D?

This post has been edited by serendipity168: Mar 15 2010, 01:05 PM

And to have best 3D effect we must have dark room like cinema...

so we must repaint our room into black color..

What's next? Lazy Boy Theater seats? Mama-Mia

Don't forget that the glasses is battery operated and bluetooth connected to the TV.. and each costs usd150... but some 3DTV provide 2 glasses for free. ( I don't think it's really free, I think the price is included when buying the tv..)

Samsung 3D LEDTV and 3D Bluray player are available for viewing in Best Denki @ KLCC.

my experience = nice, especially the tv can convert 2D program to 3D.

U need to wear glasses or not to get 3D effect?

Yes, you need to wear the glasses, if not the image will be blurred.

and once it's launched, we wait another...

1-2 years for more 3D Blu Ray titles.

5-10 years for Astro 3D.

nice....

Why 5-10 years bro..they should spend on the technology if they wanna keep up the existing customers

Then ma very troublesome lo...

true but I would think majority of their customers are middle aged folks who watch either serials, variety show, bollywood movies and news

I'll wait for it come:)

Those who is interested can try out the unit at Best Denki KLCC.

Wearing those glasses looks so cool.

thoroughly agree with you although i'm estimating 5-6 years...Astro HD is now beginning to pick up momentum

agree, nowaday technology pick up very fast..

later if your family is like 5 people, you got to add on 5 glasses, then your friends and neighbors also want to come and keh po with your new TV, so some ppl will see blur images and only those with glasses can see the 3D,

what a selling fish act.. haha.. and hopefully in the near future, the computer softwares will pick up, using windows movie maker can make your video into 3D and enjoy on your TV, imagine that..

it looks like the TV technology resolution is coming to a stop and then moving into 3D TV.. i wonder... star trek?

U sure they're picking up momentum? The CS told me that there will be no further new HD channels (or any channels for that matter) this year when I called in and complain a few days ago...

Just curious...
how many HD channels does Astro have at the moment?
how many would be added within 6 months and 12 months?

5-6 years to pick up momentum is kinda slow leh...

for them is money problem cos is business ma...

for me if they can not provide then i will buy blu ray..

I am sorry but can anyone tell me whats the difference, technology wise, between the normal LCD and 3D capable LCD TV?

The technology behind 3DTV is to display to images, one for each eye, thus creating a stereoscopic image. These TV sets usually support HDMI 1.4 and a minimum (input and output) refresh rate of 120Hz; glasses may be sold separately.

hmm.. will watching tv3 also can be viewed 3D? just curious.

One thing I can never understand thus far is this, last time the 3D movie project double image in two images superimposed to each other, but in different polarity. So if one wear polarised glasses, one eye will see each polarised image, perpendicular to each other in order to hide one image at any one time.

How does 3D LCD works ? I try to read the online info but somehow still cannot understand the technique to 'hide' one image from one eye and vice versa.

Sorry I digress from the topic. But I am very curious.

No point , even HD is going slow and now 3D TV. Common , untill HD becomes main stream like its in USA , then we can talk about having 3D TVs !

astro just introduce astro beyond. whats next? astro 3D?

Nope, not anywhere sooner. That probably gonna take up another project meeting , proposals , channels to upgrade.

Lets see what they have to present for HD channels , then we can discuss about 3D

Here is a link to help your knowledge better about 3DTV:

http://news.cnet.com/3d-tv-faq/?tag=mncol;mlt_related

If you visit sony's website, go and look about their latest TV products. They will explain to you how you will be able to see a frame on your left eye, and another frame on your other eye with the help of the glass..

This is what I know:

Your battery-operated 3D glasses will be synchronized with the TV via bluetooth. What does the glasses do is blocking your left eye by displaying black ink on the left glass, and vice versa. If you couldn't imagine that, have you seen FOSSIL watches with changeable background colors? Basically it's like that. SO, when the black ink is on your left eye, the TV is displaying images for your right eye and vice versa. All of this happens so quickly and you won't notice them just like how you didn't notice the cinema's flashing light behind the films reel.. And that's why 240 hertz is required for displaying 3D.. Btw, it seemed like HDMI 1.3 is able to handle 3D coz the Sony PlayStation 3 will be having an update to enable support for 3D even though the PS3 is using a HDMI 1.3... So, I don't know why people said that HDMI 1.4 is needed to display 3D..

And I guess you know that this glasses will not come with one red glass, and one blue/green glass.. That method we used to watch 3D elements was called anaglyph but it distorts real color of the images.. So this is not the case with this new 3D TV.. Imagine Uncharted 2 or Little Big Planet in 3D.. or maybe Transformers 2 or IronMan 2.. Oh my!! (Incase you didn't know, some TV brand provides a feature for 2D to 3D conversion.. Watch everthing in 3D!)

I have been curious how they made HD/3D from very old recordings? Does the earlier recording have been recorded in a future proof formatting? or just remastered via computer advancement..

When they were filming the movie, they were using a high quality and expensive film reels. I don't even think they were thinking about the possibility of having a high resolution display and getting ready for the future. It just happens that the film enables high quality recording/filming. When they convert the film into digital, they find out that it really fits the current high definition format display resolution of 1920x1080.. FYI, the pictures you have taken with a film a decade ago are able to be converted into Full HD resolution. Regarding 3D conversion, I totally have no idea. Maybe software enhancement.

I think they are mostly upscaled,no?

Er, I'm not too sure. Maybe some of them.

Your post does contribute A LOT.. Are we in the wrong section?Shouldn't you be posting in Travel&Living lol

Can 3D TV produce 2D picture like normal TV? I means it have a option to choose if we just want to watch without using glasses.

Are you talking about 3D Glassless TV or the ones requiring 3D glasses?These are two different technologies

Note that 3D Glassless TV do not require 3D glasses...The screen itself works like a huge pair of glasses

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Mar 20 2010, 09:45 PM

look at his signature.. obviously he is advertising..

I talking about current 3D TV technology (required 3D glasses).
I think 3D Glassless TV that u means is not available yet and still far for production. If TV can produce 3D image without glasses, maybe it used hologram technology.

wrong there are already prototypes look here

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/10/intel-s...s-more-like-it/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/20/3dfusio...3dfmax-display/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/02/no-glas...debut-at-cebit/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/11/ny-stor...sses-3d-lcd-ad/

I know it's there but it's not there for us (consumers) so personally I don't prefer to talk about something that is far beyond reach. (Except something that has been announced for surely to come soon like the PS Move). But of course, it's really interesting to think of the freedom and possibilities (but not the price).

This post has been edited by lowyard: Mar 24 2010, 03:10 AM

Just heard news that Nitendo are betting on their next-gen console to able to provide 3D gaming experience minus the geeky glasses

Laa.. I thought it was something really big like a home console.. Well, it was a hand-held called Nintendo 3DS. It was the next generation of the DS series where people have dubbed them as DS2. The 3DS will be providing 3D visual effects without the need to wear any special glasses.

For more info, please click the link below.

http://geeksmack.net/industry-news/1178-ne...-called-the-3ds

Probably just using Sharp's 3D LCD tech.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/117303/shar...3d_monitor.html

Nintendo has very strong relationship with Sharp when it comes to LCD for their gaming systems, so it's possible that Ninty just license the tech from Sharp.

Think I'll hold off getting the DSi until I see how this 3DS' features. My DSLite still has plenty of life in it.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Mar 25 2010, 10:33 AM

It using dual-layered screen. I wonder how it PQ compare with using 3D glasses.

Sure pening kepala watch everyday using the glass...

I dun see how 3D Technology will be in Malaysia for some time maybe only 5-6 years later?

Heck, even the first 3D Blu ray discs aren't even out yet.Great

Wait for Sony to introduce 3D TV support into the PS3 firmware. Expected to happen very soon.

3D TV is about hardware, not firmware. am i rite?

If you're talking about 3D broadcast, you may be right. But the technology - 3D HDTVs and Blu-ray players - is already out there. Samsung and Panasonic has already launched in the US and it doesn't take a millionaire (just rich people) to bring a set for his/her own use.

One 3D BD is already out - Monsters vs Aliens. It is bundled together with Samsung's 3D HDTV+BD systems. It will only be available separately one year from now.

Sometime June or July.


Correct. The PS3 has enough processing power to create real-time 3D graphics. But the current firmware is not built for 3D. The next firmware will address that.

It is doubtful that 360 and Wii will be able to do 3D.


fuad

It needs a combination of hardware and software. The PS3's HDMI 1.3 spec does support handling 3D TV, but the PS3's current firmware still doesn't know how to format the images for the 3D TV and how to tell the TV that it's going to send 3D signal to make the TV go into 3D mode. The upcoming update will provide the PS3 with the required knowledge of handling a 3D TV.

Elite 360 maybe can, assuming that HDMI 1.2 is enough for 3D image. Wii definitely cannot, but Nintendo is rumored to be coming up with a updated Wii next year that has HD output. Maybe that one can with a future FW update, assuming it has HDMI port.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Mar 26 2010, 01:08 PM

You have to start somewhere. When Blu-ray Discs launch, critics thought that people won't invest in them because DVD was good enough. Now look at how BD is doing - more floorspace in retail and more TV and print advertising the fact that a movie will be released on BD & DVD.

Don't be afraid of 3D HD. It's not going to make your BD collection worthless.

240Hz or 120Hz per eye is overkill. RealD 3D digital cinema uses 144Hz or 72Hz per eye.

PS3 won't be able to deliver FullHD 3D. Just 720p since HDMI 1.3a does not have the bandwidth for it. So even when later in the year PS3 gets 3D playback capability for BD movies, it would only be delivered at 720p.

To do FullHD 3D, you need HDMI 1.4, which is what Panasonic is doing.

Old recordings is rather vague. Anything that was shot on NTSC and PAL video cannot be made HD since the resolution is not there. These recordings are upconverted.

Anything that was shot and mastered on film (16mm minimum) can be telecined and made into a HD film. So that means all of those old 3D movies from the 50s may get to be seen in 3D by mass audience for the first time via 3D BD.

A 3D video will have a special signal telling the 3D HDTV that it's 3D. A HD video will not have this signal so it would look normal. So far, 3D HDTVs do not convert 2D HD to 3D. And I wouldn't trust the first versions of those to make a great 3D conversion.


fuad

the glasses will be eliminated in 5 yrs time, so now we still gotta rely on the glasses to see the 3d effect...

As in the link I provided earlier, Sharp already figured out how to do 3D images without using glasses 5 years ago, it pretty much uses the same theory as the LCD glasses 3DTV, except that now the LCD is on the TV LCD itself as a second layer and that instead of alternating between left and right using 2 LCDs, the technology uses one LCD layer to polarize light to reflect to only left or right eye. Problem is the technology limitation requires that you're facing the screen from a particular angle before it'll work. Otherwise all you'll see is a flat, slightly flickery image.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Mar 26 2010, 01:23 PM

Yeah, like looking at an alternating cartoon images on a toy. You look at angle A, cartoon eyes closed. Look at angle B, cartoon eyes opened. Get what I mean?

panasonic has roadshow at sunway pyramid, i saw the demo of the panasonic tv using the 3d glass, looks just like 3d in the cinemas

How much the price is..?

The new Samsung 3D LED TV series will cost between $2000 and $7000, and the various sets will begin selling in April and May 2010

USD 2000 : RM 6,492

USD 7000: RM 22,722

Wow.. Bit LED..