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 Cyberjaya University College Of Medical Sciences, CUCMS Unofficial LYN Thread(MBBS/Bpharm)

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post Apr 21 2011, 04:15 PM

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Is it not specified somewhere what's the payment for?

Most will ask you to pay an application sum upon submission and its odd to ask you to bring along some cash for an interview. Good thing is only those called up for interview need to pay. rclxub.gif
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post Apr 21 2011, 05:29 PM

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what kind of uni is this that requires people to bring cash to pay before an interview?.........

does that mean if someone brings rm300 instead of rm150, he will have a better chance of admission?..........smile.gif
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post Apr 23 2011, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Apr 21 2011, 06:29 PM)
what kind of uni is this that requires people to bring cash to pay before an interview?.........

does that mean if someone brings rm300 instead of rm150, he will have a better chance of admission?..........smile.gif
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It's just the normal processing fees for application. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(MBBS siang @ Apr 21 2011, 12:44 PM)
MBBS interview? Foundation or pharmacy?
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Foundation. btw, i didnt go . =.=
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QUOTE(MBBS siang @ Apr 23 2011, 11:47 AM)
It's just the normal processing fees for application.  biggrin.gif
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then shouldn't that be charged when application is submitted?.........
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QUOTE(MBBS siang @ Apr 11 2011, 09:42 AM)
Yup. That won't be any new intake until mmc say yes. Please consider other uni before thinking about cucms currently. Just an advice to who wanna join cucms mbbs programme please wait until cucms condition is stable only consider la. Again, cucms is the uni that you will never regret if you enter but not now.
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i second it smile.gif

if only we dont have this problem, id highly recommend it to other future doctors pursuin their medical degree in IPTS in Malaysia. Heck, for me this place is sometimes even better than IPTA itself. unfortunately there might not be a 2011 intake for MBBS students if MMC decided to punish us for our misdeed. still, if most of u guys are willing to wait until somewhere between jun/july then we might be able to update u guys with appropriate info. for now just have to wait for MQA to validate and recognize this Uni. sweat.gif

btw, am not pointing fingers but the faults are not only on the administration (never the academicians though smile.gif ), those who knows the truth would prefer to remain silent, and yes, most of us do know the truth and still are diverting the faults to others in order to hide our own folly  icon_question.gif
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Hi, my boyfriend is currently a foundation graduate from CUCMS and he was promised a place for his MBBS Degree (he had a special case and this was the agreement). I have read about how their accreditation was revoked and was quite surprised at the minimal number of parents raising hell about the issue.

I am sure everyone could understand that studying medicine is by far, not cheap.

I would like to know what are the offers that CUCMS have given to their student and if they have ask to wait till their accreditation to be returned, how long will this take? By June? A year? You honestly don't think the students deserve to be sheep and herded to their liking.

Education is highly important, and most of us don't print money in our cellars. Seemingly that the two of you could claim it is reputable, can you please justify this? I would like to hear your side of the story.

Thanks in advance.


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QUOTE(moon.light @ May 3 2011, 02:28 AM)
Hi, my boyfriend is currently a foundation graduate from CUCMS and he was promised a place for his MBBS Degree (he had a special case and this was the agreement).

Education is highly important, and most of us don't print money in our cellars. Seemingly that the two of you could claim it is reputable, can you please justify this? I would like to hear your side of the story.
how can any med school 'promise' a place to a foundation student?........

and it has just been de registered for wilfully flouting mmc rules.......

both these facts shows the true colour of this place......
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Sounds more like a pre-approved credit card offer.

Based on merit and fair play? More towards who you know, I think.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 3 2011, 08:09 AM)
how can any med school 'promise' a place to a foundation student?........

and it has just been de registered for wilfully flouting mmc rules.......

both these facts shows the true colour of this place......
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Because they have accepted his credit transfer. He actually finished his foundation at another university, but when he has registered into their MBBS, they changed the agreement that he needs to attend the foundation program as formalities.

This was done before their accreditation was revoked publicly.

I won't point fingers. I know they are new but after a bit more prodding, there seem to be a lot of people whom does know CUCMS. I have heard many unsatisfied stakeholders, I would like to see what their more positive students could justify.

QUOTE(cckkpr @ May 3 2011, 08:49 AM)
Sounds more like a pre-approved credit card offer.

Based on merit and fair play? More towards who you know, I think.
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Haha. biggrin.gif A little bit I guess. But it wasn't because he knew anyone there, but because it was one of the university that accepted his credit transfer.
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Is there any source to verify that this university has LAN approval ?
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QUOTE(moon.light @ May 3 2011, 09:48 AM)
Because they have accepted his credit transfer. He actually finished his foundation at another university, but when he has registered into their MBBS, they changed the agreement that he needs to attend the foundation program as formalities.

This was done before their accreditation was revoked publicly.
this is still not right.....this is NOT 'credit transfer'........

if they recognised the previous foundation as acceptable and adequate, there is NO need to repeat.....

if they decided a repeat is required, then it is judged not adequate.......

and therefore there cannot be a guarantee of a place........

this is NOT a matter of 'formalities' but whether a potential student has the credentials and ability to pursue the course.........

my opinion of cucms is almost at the bottom of the trash can now....the 'getting a place through connections' allegation is true as well.........from a colleague's first hand knowledge.......
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 3 2011, 11:29 AM)
this is still not right.....this is NOT 'credit transfer'........

if they recognised the previous foundation as acceptable and adequate, there is NO need to repeat.....

if they decided a repeat is required, then it is judged not adequate.......

and therefore there cannot be a guarantee of a place........

this is NOT a matter of 'formalities' but whether a potential student has the credentials and ability to pursue the course.........

my opinion of cucms is almost at the bottom of the trash can now....the 'getting a place through connections' allegation is true as well.........from a colleague's first hand knowledge.......
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I've never heard of credit transfer in foundation programs though, but their 'formality' is basically just sucking off money from the students. And imho, it isn't right to 'promise' students a spot in courses like medicine. It just shows how lax the selection process is. I'll have to agree with limeuu here about the school sinking rock bottom at the moment due to their violation. I only can say that if your boyfriend is doing well academically, go for other well established institutes like IMU or AIMST, or even UCSI for that matter.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 3 2011, 11:29 AM)
if they recognised the previous foundation as acceptable and adequate, there is NO need to repeat.....
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Thank you for pointing out the obvious, sir.

QUOTE(onelove89 @ May 3 2011, 06:02 PM)
I've never heard of credit transfer in foundation programs though, but their 'formality' is basically just sucking off money from the students. And imho, it isn't right to 'promise' students a spot in courses like medicine. It just shows how lax the selection process is. I'll have to agree with limeuu here about the school sinking rock bottom at the moment due to their violation. I only can say that if your boyfriend is doing well academically, go for other well established institutes like IMU or AIMST, or even UCSI for that matter.
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I agree.

Let me verify the reason for actually bothering to ask for justification; I'm upset that some parents did little about the accreditation being revoked and even far less action were taken by the university.

The best option is to leave and go for better established universities, correct. But again, not everyone is financially capable of that. PLUS he is already losing out a lot in terms of time (and money) because he had done two foundations and I assume everyone would know that not every university accept another university's foundation qualification.

Since one of CUCMS option is NOT to accept their foundation graduates into their first year of MBBS, what solution have they given to these pool of students? I am not looking to defame CUCMS, I am looking for answers.

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QUOTE(moon.light @ May 3 2011, 07:36 PM)
Thank you for pointing out the obvious, sir.
I agree.

Let me verify the reason for actually bothering to ask for justification; I'm upset that some parents did little about the accreditation being revoked and even far less action were taken by the university.

The best option is to leave and go for better established universities, correct. But again, not everyone is financially capable of that. PLUS he is already losing out a lot in terms of time (and money) because he had done two foundations and I assume everyone would know that not every university accept another university's foundation qualification.

Since one of CUCMS option is NOT to accept their foundation graduates into their first year of MBBS, what solution have they given to these pool of students? I am not looking to defame CUCMS, I am looking for answers.
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can't really say what's gonna happen. They might ask the students to wait, or shunt them into another course at the moment. May I know what is the first foundation program that he did? In terms of cost, I reckon he can look at AIMST or UCSI or to some extent MAHSA? one can opt for financial aid from ptptn too. =) well these are just suggestions. but sorry to hear that he is in such tight situation.
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QUOTE(moon.light @ May 3 2011, 07:36 PM)
Thank you for pointing out the obvious, sir.
it is not obvious, as you initially said they recognised the first foundation........
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ May 3 2011, 11:00 PM)
can't really say what's gonna happen. They might ask the students to wait, or shunt them into another course at the moment. May I know what is the first foundation program that he did? In terms of cost, I reckon he can look at AIMST or UCSI or to some extent MAHSA? one can opt for financial aid from ptptn too. =) well these are just suggestions. but sorry to hear that he is in such tight situation.
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If I'm not mistaken, their only other course offered is Pharmacy. It's a choice, but priorities should be given to those who will continue for Pharmacy, right? That's the logic at least. There will then be very few seats opened for MBBS graduate. If they are any smarter, they won't take more than their quota again.

You mentioned his previous university actually. smile.gif I rather not disclose much personal information here. It was on personal reason he needed to move down KL.

Financially, PTPTN may float him. But that still does not make it any easier to change university. Which is why I wonder if CUCMS are making any arrangement for them.

Thank you anyway. smile.gif You have been a dear.

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 3 2011, 11:42 PM)
it is not obvious, as you initially said they recognised the first foundation........
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Because they have accepted his credit transfer. He actually finished his foundation at another university, but when he has registered into their MBBS, they changed the agreement that he needs to attend the foundation program as formalities.


As per quote, this means they have agreed but they changed that agreement after consensus were made.

So yes sir, it was unethical in many ways and promising a seat is by far, wrong. It is exactly as what I am trying to say, therefore it is obvious to what you have also said in a more emotional and simpler English.

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if they recognized the previous foundation as acceptable and adequate, there is NO need to repeat.....


I personally just think that when you want a civilized answer, you should judge and inquire civilly. No offense and much thanks.
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QUOTE(moon.light @ May 4 2011, 12:19 AM)
As per quote, this means they have agreed but they changed that agreement after consensus were made.

So yes sir, it was unethical in many ways and promising a seat is by far, wrong. It is exactly as what I am trying to say, therefore it is obvious to what you have also said in a more emotional and simpler English.
I personally just think that when you want a civilized answer, you should judge and inquire civilly. No offense and much thanks.
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if it was not obvious, let me make it clear that my criticism is not directed at you, but at cucms......

i have come to the conclusion that this cucms is an unethical, recalcitrant, arrogant establishment, but obviously politically connected, and thinks it can get away with anything because it is connected.........

my sympathies with your friend, but i would, as also suggested by others, recommend making a clean break with it, and move on elsewhere........
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QUOTE(moon.light @ May 4 2011, 12:04 AM)
If I'm not mistaken, their only other course offered is Pharmacy. It's a choice, but priorities should be given to those who will continue for Pharmacy, right? That's the logic at least. There will then be very few seats opened for MBBS graduate. If they are any smarter, they won't take more than their quota again.

You mentioned his previous university actually. smile.gif I rather not disclose much personal information here. It was on personal reason he needed to move down KL.

Financially, PTPTN may float him. But that still does not make it any easier to change university. Which is why I wonder if CUCMS are making any arrangement for them.

Thank you anyway. smile.gif You have been a dear.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 4 2011, 12:42 AM)
if it was not obvious, let me make it clear that my criticism is not directed at you, but at cucms......

i have come to the conclusion that this cucms is an unethical, recalcitrant, arrogant establishment, but obviously politically connected, and thinks it can get away with anything because it is connected.........

my sympathies with your friend, but i would, as also suggested by others, recommend making a clean break with it, and move on elsewhere........
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Yeah most probably they'll shunt them into Pharmacy or some health related course. My sympathies for your friend as well, but as limeuu suggested, I reckon it'll be good if he can move on to another university. CUCMS is really in a mess at the moment. We all hope that the issue will be resolved, but there's no guarantee when it will be. I guess the only closest suggestion is to try UCSI. As far as I know, the 1st foundation program your friend did is accepted there. I can't really comment much about the quality as I've only been there for half a year. I do really sympathize those who're in tight situations now due to the incompetence of the uni. =( all the best and hope there's a solution for your friend.
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I attended to the 12th of May's interview as they called me, but surprisingly I found this topic and read through it to find out they have some sorta serious problem.

Is it settled by now or still ongoing?

Speak of interview fee, which 150RM, I didn't pay them yet even though I been through the interview... I never thought they wouldn't have an ATM set for them =.=

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