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post Mar 10 2010, 05:54 PM, updated 16y ago

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Hi, confusing to buy either 42" LCD or 42" Plasma TV, anyone can teach and explain? preferring in Panasonic.

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post Mar 10 2010, 06:06 PM

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as I know, plasma no radiation.
If I am wrong, correct me...
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post Mar 10 2010, 06:38 PM

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If i'm not wrong LCD panel don't have lifetime but most plasma tv have 100,000 hours panel lifetime
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QUOTE(teolincy @ Mar 10 2010, 05:54 PM)
Hi, confusing to buy either 42" LCD or 42" Plasma TV, anyone can teach and explain? preferring in Panasonic.

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Take your content to the shop (DVDs, BluRay,etc) ask them to demo on both technologies. See which looks better to ur eyes and get that. Don't look back. If u r going to use it for Astro SD, then I suggest u check out how they look in the display u wanna buy.

Both technologies has their merits and demerits. Its important to like what u buy.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 10 2010, 07:39 PM)
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Take your content to the shop (DVDs, BluRay,etc) ask them to demo on both technologies. See which looks better to ur eyes and get that. Don't look back.  If u r going to use it for Astro SD, then I suggest u check out how they look in the display u wanna buy.

Both technologies has their merits and demerits. Its important to like what u buy.
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I prefer LCD coz I don't want to worry myself with the plasma IR problem. Batter safe than sorry..
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QUOTE(VSX-AX2as @ Mar 10 2010, 10:06 PM)
Believe your eyes don't believe what SA tell rclxms.gif  you .Your eyes never lies to you
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How true! Yes! believe your eyes.

I prefer Plasma because the colour is natural & easy on the eyes. The colour for LCD in my opinion is not so natural & too sharp for the eyes (feel like cutting the eyes).

I am not worry at all about the IR/Burnt-In for Plasma.
Like people say if you are so obsessed with fear, go live in the police station. Sorry no offense meant.

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post Mar 12 2010, 07:49 AM

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Plasma color more natural.One more thing about plasma is you can watching it near or far without damage your eyes.Other than that latest SAMSUNG plasma TV come with 100Hz feature
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QUOTE(teolincy @ Mar 10 2010, 05:54 PM)
Hi, confusing to buy either 42" LCD or 42" Plasma TV, anyone can teach and explain? preferring in Panasonic.

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buy plasma...i don't like lcd because of motion flow (not natural) while watching Blu ray movie
eventho somebody said we can off that one...

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post Mar 15 2010, 11:38 AM

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I own 42' plasma.

I think is better then LCD cos d picture more nature. if u play something like PS2, u can notice the picture in plasma is more nature.

but plasma no good cos the screen reflex. ur room must not got bright sun light..

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post Mar 15 2010, 04:40 PM

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Time to setup AV room maa...Less reflex from the sun
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post Mar 15 2010, 04:55 PM

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AV room keng ....
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post Mar 15 2010, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Mar 15 2010, 04:55 PM)
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very easy ma..

change ur curtain then repaint ur wall to dark color..

then move all ur system inside... tongue.gif
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post Mar 18 2010, 03:34 AM

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Plasma is better in terms of picture clarity than LCD. but plasma weakness is the lifetime.Limited. LCD can last longer. So its all depends on ur long term planning and ur need. Shop wisely
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bro..i think this topic have been ask again and again...please search 1st then make new thread...just my idea la...
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post Mar 18 2010, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(iphoneguy08 @ Mar 18 2010, 03:34 AM)
Plasma is better in terms of picture clarity than LCD. but plasma weakness is  the lifetime.Limited. LCD can last longer. So its all depends on ur long term planning and ur need. Shop wisely
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Just wonder how long the plasma and LCD lifetime is?
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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Mar 18 2010, 03:21 PM)
Just wonder how long the plasma and LCD lifetime is?
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Forget abt the 60,000hrs...

Nowadays...more like just after the warranty expires laugh.gif

Do you know the old LCD was design for 99 years...so was the CD.
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post Mar 19 2010, 01:39 AM

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Seriously lifetime is not really the main concern of a TV nowadays.

I was once reseaching for TV back few weeks. In the end I got a LED LCD for myself, 90% for aesthetic reason.

LCD - good in a brighter environment, energy saving, and lesser problem on worrying burn-ins, mostly full HD above 40", better for HTPC (primary concern of mine)

Plasma - cheaper on bigger size, better blacks, require a dark surrouding, less issue on ghosting (I heard)

Tht's a short point I listed out, hope it helps
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post Mar 19 2010, 09:40 AM

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Lifespan n IR on plasma is waaaaaaaaaay exaggerated. Anyway, even at 30,000 hours lifespan, u can watch 8 hours a day for 10 years. Now, how many ppl actually watch 8 hours a day. Even if u do, that's 10 years! I have an LG plasma which has been used for Astro everyday for 4 years. No problems at all n still using for Astro everyday.

The new gen plasmas r supposed to b even better now so I don't c y ppl so paranoid bout it. My 2 other new plasmas oso hantam Astro everyday. I don't see no IR.
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Am I the only one suggesting LCD? I can't stand the glare of plasma. You either place it in an AV room or have your living room completely draped in dark curtain.

I myself am using samsung LCD tv and it worked well for all my media needs....ps3, astro, bluray, etc. In any case, either one you choose will always be worthy. I don't feel the disadvantage of LCD at all and perhaps plasma owner don't complete much about its lifespan.

Even still, I'd still recommend LCD tv, its way better than CRT or even HDTV.

Oh yes, since you mention Panasonic, I genuinely think that they make better plasma models than LCD.

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QUOTE(azbro @ Mar 18 2010, 03:37 PM)
Forget abt the 60,000hrs...

Nowadays...more like just after the warranty expires  laugh.gif

Do you know the old LCD was design for 99 years...so was the CD.
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U r right, after warranty expire problem com in alr..

my uncle own a LG first generation plasma, he say after the warranty the dead cell start to grow.
see alot of red color cell..sweat.gif
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post Mar 21 2010, 10:51 PM

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when our electricity traiff been increase one more time, than plasma user will be effected coz plasma require 2 times electricity consumption compare to LCD,

exactly, plasma is more supperbb quality picture compare LCD, but the only problem screen reflex

i vote for LCD coz now many of TV company stop produce plasma TV anymore, sony and toshiba now just focus on LCD
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Haiyoooooo playing with big TVs wanna complain about electric bill 1 ah? This type of logic really 1 kind. Those who complain about screen reflection, I wonder what kinda TV u fellas been watching the past million years? Since the creation of Black n white TV the screen has been glass. No1 complain oso. Now LCDs use plastic screen then all wanna talk about reflection. laugh.gif

Sony n Toshiba focus on LCD means every1 must listen to them n buy LCD? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 22 2010, 01:32 AM)
Haiyoooooo playing with big TVs wanna complain about electric bill 1 ah? This type of logic really 1 kind. Those who complain about screen reflection, I wonder what kinda TV u fellas been watching the past million years? Since the creation of Black n white TV the screen has been glass. No1 complain oso. Now  LCDs use plastic screen then all wanna talk about reflection. laugh.gif

Sony n Toshiba focus on LCD means every1 must listen to them n buy LCD? laugh.gif
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There is a major problem.. if u own a plasma then u will know.

like might, afternoon around 3.30pm to 6.30pm i can not watch movie. unless i change my curtain to very dark color..

sweat.gif sweat.gif reflex bro, reflex..
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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 22 2010, 01:32 AM)
Haiyoooooo playing with big TVs wanna complain about electric bill 1 ah? This type of logic really 1 kind. Those who complain about screen reflection, I wonder what kinda TV u fellas been watching the past million years? Since the creation of Black n white TV the screen has been glass. No1 complain oso. Now  LCDs use plastic screen then all wanna talk about reflection. laugh.gif

Sony n Toshiba focus on LCD means every1 must listen to them n buy LCD? laugh.gif
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it look like a car, when some major producer stop produce some model, cost of the spare part will be more high, i reliaze that some of us maybe one of the plasma fans, for me i think the quality picture is goes to plasma tv but just in the dark environment, maybe 2-3 years more, i dont think that plasma tv will be camparable with other tv, after LED tv donimated our market
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I watch & play everything on my Plasma Full HDTV in my living room.

I am very very happy with my HDTV. I don't notice any reflection at all.

IMHO if you want to see reflection then you will see it. The mind is super powerful. It is called auto suggestion. Switch it off while watching your TV.

Btw 3D HDTV is the in thing now. Look like plasma is the better one.

Read already & the link:- http://www.i4u.com/article31950.html

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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Mar 22 2010, 08:25 AM)
There is a major problem.. if u own a plasma then u will know.

like might, afternoon around 3.30pm to 6.30pm i can not watch movie. unless i change my curtain to very dark color..

sweat.gif  sweat.gif reflex bro, reflex..
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If I own a plasma then I will know???? laugh.gif I got 3 plasmas at home, 2x 42" n 1x 60". I watch TV, surf Internet n play games on them in the morning, day n night. I don't see any problems with reflection. laugh.gif TVs have been made with glass since the very 1st TV was made ler. Which planet u fellas come from, that screen reflection has suddenly become such an exaggerated n over blown problem? laugh.gif



QUOTE(art6969 @ Mar 22 2010, 10:43 AM)
it look like a car, when some major producer stop produce some model, cost of the spare part will be more high, i reliaze that some of us maybe one of the plasma fans, for me i think the quality picture is goes to plasma tv but just in the dark environment, maybe 2-3 years more, i dont think that plasma tv will be camparable with other tv, after LED tv donimated our market
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The LCD will never be black n the viewing angles will never come close n the lag will always be there. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 22 2010, 05:05 PM)
If I own a plasma then I will know???? laugh.gif  I got 3 plasmas at home, 2x 42" n 1x 60". I watch TV, surf Internet n play games on them in the morning, day n night. I don't see any problems with reflection. laugh.gif  TVs have been made with glass since the very 1st TV was made ler. Which planet u fellas come from, that screen reflection has suddenly become such an exaggerated n over blown problem? laugh.gif 
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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 22 2010, 05:05 PM)
If I own a plasma then I will know???? laugh.gif  I got 3 plasmas at home, 2x 42" n 1x 60". I watch TV, surf Internet n play games on them in the morning, day n night. I don't see any problems with reflection. laugh.gif  TVs have been made with glass since the very 1st TV was made ler. Which planet u fellas come from, that screen reflection has suddenly become such an exaggerated n over blown problem? laugh.gif 
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True.. True... I got Plasma TV too... No problem with it.. ala about the life time... after 5-8 years... we probably will buy a new TV.... biggrin.gif
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As expected this thread has eventually become the war zone between LCD and Plasma tv supporters since the thread topic is already an obvious triggerer tongue.gif
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2-3 years more, we will say bye bye to plasma, there has no production more
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QUOTE(art6969 @ Mar 22 2010, 08:35 PM)
2-3 years more, we will say bye bye to plasma, there has no production more
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Not true in my opinion. Leading manufacturers are now coming out with 3D HDTV in both plasma & lcd. And looks like plasma is the better one.

read here:- http://www.i4u.com/article31950.html & here:- http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/video-h...01/72326491001/

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QUOTE(art6969 @ Mar 22 2010, 08:35 PM)
2-3 years more, we will say bye bye to plasma, there has no production more
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plasma is going to continue with some revolution...


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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Mar 31 2010, 03:32 PM)
plasma is going to continue with some revolution...
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I still fancy that Pioneer Kuro 60'. Way to reachable at the moment.

Worried they might stop production. *Sigh*..not my lucky year..

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 31 2010, 05:05 PM)
I still fancy that Pioneer Kuro 60'. Way to reachable at the moment.

Worried they might stop production. *Sigh*..not my lucky year..
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Now seems like manufacturer start to introduce HD Plasma TV..
i wonder how's the PQ.. since long time ago i just don't like the PQ of plasma tv..image not sharp compared to LCD

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 31 2010, 05:05 PM)
I still fancy that Pioneer Kuro 60'. Way to reachable at the moment.

Worried they might stop production. *Sigh*..not my lucky year..
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Production of Pioneer plasma panels stopped in April last year...
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 1 2010, 08:12 AM)
Production of Pioneer plasma panels stopped in April last year...
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Pioneer Kuro is plasma or LCD or LED?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Apr 1 2010, 06:21 PM)
Pioneer Kuro is plasma or LCD or LED?? hmm.gif
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Pioneer never really delved in LCD. There was just one model that was a Sharp rebrand. Pioneer only did plasma.
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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Apr 1 2010, 06:21 PM)
Pioneer Kuro is plasma or LCD or LED?? hmm.gif
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There's no plasma or LCD or LED. It's only plasma or LCD. LED is just the light. If u watch a flashing LED panel, it'll just give u fits. laugh.gif
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hi sifus,

my dad wants to buy a new tv for the world cup season and also to layan astro beyond lar..his budget is 5-6k. he ask me to go do research on which brand/tv to buy...so i thought...

...rather ask the sifus here recommend tongue.gif

so, any suggestions?

thanks in advance! biggrin.gif
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After moving to plasma from LCD, i would have to say plasma is way better. But the new Samsung LED backlit LCD is indeed very impressive.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Apr 1 2010, 08:38 PM)
After moving to plasma from LCD, i would have to say plasma is way better.  But the new Samsung LED backlit LCD is indeed very impressive.
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Which plasma are you currently using?
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QUOTE(penangmee @ Apr 1 2010, 11:32 PM)
Which plasma are you currently using?
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I am using the Panasonic 50S10
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Here's my take since I own both LCD & Plasma biggrin.gif

Plasma:

+ Deep contrast, no motion blur issues, wide viewing angle
- Burn-in (this is exaggerated old news/propaganda these days), slightly higher power consumption, glare (not really applicable to high end models), only available in 42" & above (larger screens)

LCD/LED:

+ Vivid colors, less power consumption, new LED models are very slim & sexy, available in all sizes
- Motion blur (frame interpolation kinda solve the issue but the result made the PQ unrealistic), Bright (depending on the spectator, there have been reported cases of viewing discomfort)

One of the main reasons plasma lost out in the HDTV war due to the fact it is only available in bigger screens, while LCD has successfully captured the market share. This is purely based on economics, nothing to do with quality. Ideally, we'll all be flying Concord today if not for the price biggrin.gif

The other thing is, don't get carried away with all the Motion Flow XXXMhz. This is purely a sales gimmick brows.gif Even with the fastest refresh rates, motion blur is still evident.

Ultimately, the satisfaction of owning a HDTV boils down to Picture Quality.
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QUOTE(serendipity168 @ Apr 2 2010, 04:16 PM)
Here's my take since I own both LCD & Plasma  biggrin.gif

Plasma:

+ Deep contrast, no motion blur issues, wide viewing angle
-  Burn-in (this is exaggerated old news/propaganda these days), slightly higher power consumption, glare (not really applicable to high end models), only available in 42" & above (larger screens)

LCD/LED:

+ Vivid colors, less power consumption, new LED models are very slim & sexy, available in all sizes
-  Motion blur (frame interpolation kinda solve the issue but the result made the PQ unrealistic), Bright (depending on the spectator, there have been reported cases of viewing discomfort)

One of the main reasons plasma lost out in the HDTV war due to the fact it is only available in bigger screens, while LCD has successfully captured the market share. This is purely based on economics, nothing to do with quality. Ideally, we'll all be flying Concord today if not for the price  biggrin.gif

The other thing is, don't get carried away with all the Motion Flow XXXMhz. This is purely a sales gimmick  brows.gif Even with the fastest refresh rates, motion blur is still evident.

Ultimately, the satisfaction of owning a HDTV boils down to Picture Quality.
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Go with the Panasonic Plasma, natural color and picture with less IR issue. Cannot tahan those LCD Motion Flow watery effect....make the picture look so fake.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Apr 2 2010, 10:29 AM)
I am using the Panasonic 50S10
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Any problems with the 'floating black/rise in black' issues?
Overblown?
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Just to be clear, I'm not a virtual salesman biggrin.gif I stumbled on this thread by accident while browsing....

If anyone is serious about getting a top notch plasma, you should look into Pioneer KURO.

Yes, I own one. The reason being, lately they were on heavy discounts as they were no longer in production.

You'll find good deals on the 42" and 50", provided if you can find them. Not sure if price will go back up eventually hmm.gif

They were selling like hot cakes a few months back and stocks have probably depleted big time!

Btw - a sales guy from a HiFi shop I went to recently in Bangsar Village II, told me that even the Pioneer AVR has gone out of stock due to high demand. Hmm...don't think he's lying as I was there to check out a specific model hmm.gif

Anyway, If you'd like to know more about the Pioneer TVs, check out this thread. We have a community there to help answer your questions:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1340204

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QUOTE(penangmee @ Apr 2 2010, 09:45 PM)
Any problems with the 'floating black/rise in black' issues?
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S10 does not have floating blacks. It has black level increase. Most people would not realise it, but those who watch in a dim environment will probably realise something fishy but might not care too much. To those who do, its a pain.
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I think the S10 do have floating black issue. I sometimes do notice that the screen suddenly becomes brighter or darker(mild effect). I thought is the media player or the movie?

Anyway, it not really that bad....overall i am really enjoying the picture quality as its really good.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 1 2010, 08:12 AM)
Production of Pioneer plasma panels stopped in April last year...
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I know, there's a shop in Cheras still having a stock. 50' & 60' Kuro model. RM19,999 & 29,999 [ if i remember correctly]

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Apr 3 2010, 03:06 PM)
I know, there's a shop in Cheras still having a stock. 50' & 60' Kuro model. RM19,999 & 29,999 [ if i remember correctly]

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That's the sticker price before discounts cool2.gif
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Apr 3 2010, 12:58 PM)
I think the S10 do have floating black issue.  I sometimes do notice that the screen suddenly becomes brighter or darker(mild effect).  I thought is the media player or the movie? 

Anyway, it not really that bad....overall i am really enjoying the picture quality as its really good.
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Shd not be. Turn ur brightness down a notch.

 

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