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TSdulan88
post Mar 8 2010, 11:48 PM, updated 16y ago

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Anyone experience this before when your boss said that she will promote you at the year-end, and you did your work consistently throughout the year, but at year end, she didn't?
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post Mar 8 2010, 11:54 PM

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How about promotion with no adjustment? Which one is worse?
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post Mar 9 2010, 08:03 AM

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Promotion without adjustments is better off than empty promises for promotion.

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post Mar 9 2010, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 8 2010, 11:54 PM)
How about promotion with no adjustment? Which one is worse?
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thats really bad for the minda
added work and responsibility wif no increased in gaji
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post Mar 10 2010, 10:54 PM

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Look on the bright side...I got promotions but my boss always conveniently forgot the 'naik gaji' part tongue.gif

=more responsibility, same pay wuhu~
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post Mar 10 2010, 11:03 PM

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Does that sound a little bit ridiculous? Promotion with no adjustment but will definitely expecting/accepting more works and higher goals?
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post Mar 10 2010, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(dulan88 @ Mar 8 2010, 11:48 PM)
Anyone experience this before when your boss said that she will promote you at the year-end, and you did your work consistently throughout the year, but at year end, she didn't?

So... did you work consistently throughout the year?

Your boss' promise was a conditional one.

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post Mar 10 2010, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Mar 10 2010, 11:06 PM)
So... did you work consistently throughout the year?

Your boss' promise was a conditional one.
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ya.. not contractual as well ....
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post Mar 10 2010, 11:13 PM

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i dont care for any promoton or any job redesignation. what counts is the moolah..

u can be designated as " King of Managers" for all i care,

naik gaji, moar benefits are the things that matters...

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post Mar 10 2010, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(rammed_a55 @ Mar 10 2010, 11:13 PM)
i dont care for any promoton or any job redesignation. what counts is the moolah..

u can be designated as " King of Managers" for all i care,

naik gaji, moar benefits are the things that matters...
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yaya...promoted to CEO but getting peanut income.. laugh.gif
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post Mar 10 2010, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(rammed_a55 @ Mar 10 2010, 11:13 PM)
i dont care for any promoton or any job redesignation. what counts is the moolah..

u can be designated as " King of Managers" for all i care,

naik gaji, moar benefits are the things that matters...
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so true...even if the boss doesn't want to name me as a "manager", fine, with increased workload, please compensate me accordingly....

but usually, promotion for most companies come with a pay rise, those not promoted to the next level, is usually stuck at the average pay, because they are deemed average and to be fair to others (that was according to my boss)
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post Mar 11 2010, 01:10 AM

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For me, it's a disappointing thing if the boss don't deliver the promise and act like nothing happen. The boss should at least give a reason for the broken promise. But then somehow they are too arrogant to do it with the attitude "they are manager and your and not". Promotion without pay rise suxx but at least if give an extra point to your resume for your next job...
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post Mar 11 2010, 08:02 AM

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Boss always like to make empty promises. That's not something new or shock.

They can also commit to other party/people a non-reasonable due dates.
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post Mar 11 2010, 09:15 AM

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promises sometime meant to retain u and motivate u at least until end of project
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post Mar 11 2010, 12:10 PM

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this is common in the real world working environment. It is called peptalk. The boss basically use tactics to boost your moral with promises like increment, promotions, shares, company going public and so on. They say work hard and must look at the distance future when company go public, you will be millionaires and so on.

Google for pep talk.
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post Mar 11 2010, 01:27 PM

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will see if the drama struck me in real life....
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post Mar 11 2010, 01:33 PM

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the staff will be demoralized when the supposed promotion time comes and not get it

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post Mar 11 2010, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(dulan88 @ Mar 8 2010, 11:48 PM)
Anyone experience this before when your boss said that she will promote you at the year-end, and you did your work consistently throughout the year, but at year end, she didn't?
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if for me, it's time to find new job
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post Mar 11 2010, 03:22 PM

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Promotion does not equal to increment. Neither that additional workload or responsibilities means that you are on the way to a promotion too.

I was told that I have a different job title nowadays (increased workload) and there will be an pay adjustment on Jan 2010. Workload increased, required to report to more team leaders now, and I am still earning the peanuts I signed up for sweat.gif Updating resume at the moment.

This post has been edited by ik3da: Mar 11 2010, 03:24 PM
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post Mar 11 2010, 03:29 PM

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look at de bright side, after promoted (w/o pay increase) stay for 1 year den cabut n get higher pay in de new company! can jalan?
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post Mar 11 2010, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(hermozo09 @ Mar 11 2010, 03:29 PM)
look at de bright side, after promoted (w/o pay increase) stay for 1 year den cabut n get higher pay in de new company! can jalan?
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sure workable.. but i wont wait 1 yr so long later... AS SOON AS i get hired by others, i will leave the current ASAP... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yeahoo80 @ Mar 10 2010, 11:15 PM)
yaya...promoted to CEO but getting peanut income..  laugh.gif
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u know what i don't mind getting promoted to CEO even not getting paid lol. at least when u jump ship. u can jump as pirate captain than deckhand.

so getting promised on promotion but not getting it is one serious sh*t. there's actually 2 schools of thought.
1) sit and wait to be fed.
2) dig your own path.

sit and wait to be fed = stay patience and keep working until he feel compassionate enough to give u a raise/promotion. i could be a petty raise or promotion without raise at all. or better it could be a crazy raise/promotion too.

dig your own path = look for another job. at least you definitely get an increment for jumping, usually ppl do it with increment. or better benefit, else i don't see a point.

your case, jump ship better ba, still wanna get cheated again meh.
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post Mar 11 2010, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(AnonyNite @ Mar 11 2010, 03:37 PM)
u know what i don't mind getting promoted to CEO even not getting paid lol. at least when u jump ship. u can jump as pirate captain than deckhand.

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if i were u, why don't we jump into our own ship rather than other's ship... and be pirate captain..? brows.gif


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post Mar 11 2010, 04:08 PM

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Again, how do you get 'promoted' but without pay increase?

Without the additional value, are you really promoted? Could it be you are actually at the same level but just that someone gave you more stuff to do?

Larger workload doesn't equal promotion.
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post Mar 11 2010, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Mar 11 2010, 04:08 PM)

Larger workload doesn't equal promotion, and promotion also doesn't equal pay increased.

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post Mar 11 2010, 04:24 PM

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some people have high ego, they accept promotion without extra pay, because they want the "designation"
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post Mar 11 2010, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Mar 11 2010, 04:24 PM)
some people have high ego, they accept promotion without extra pay, because they want the "designation"
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OMG ... doh.gif

lets imagine... u work as Senior GM...but not afford to buy a condo and only stay in flat... is it rediculous.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(yeahoo80 @ Mar 11 2010, 04:13 PM)
and promotion also doesn't equal pay increased

Like I said. If nobody is willing to pay you for it, it's not a promotion. It's just more work.
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post Mar 11 2010, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Mar 11 2010, 04:30 PM)
Like I said. If nobody is willing to pay you for it, it's not a promotion. It's just more work.
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yayya...its only promotion in terms of "designation" from Executive to AM, and not "pay increased".... is it also called "promotion"..??

just curious.. blush.gif
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QUOTE(yeahoo80 @ Mar 11 2010, 04:27 PM)
OMG ...  doh.gif

lets imagine... u work as Senior GM...but not afford to buy a condo and only stay in flat... is it rediculous.. doh.gif
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then they will give excuses like living frugally biggrin.gif there are such people in this world...
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post Mar 11 2010, 08:00 PM

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Promotion w/o pay rise is not promotion at all. Better call it as "conversion".

Like you're exchanging/converting RM 330 to USD 100. Value is still same but expectation getting higher.
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post Mar 11 2010, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 11 2010, 08:00 PM)
Promotion w/o pay rise is not promotion at all. Better call it as "conversion".

Like you're exchanging/converting RM 330 to USD 100. Value is still same but expectation getting higher.
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get the title first lor at least, after few months resign. ur future employer will see what's ur position and consider u with higher pay.
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post Mar 11 2010, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(booby @ Mar 11 2010, 08:27 PM)
get the title first lor at least, after few months resign. ur future employer will see what's ur position and consider u with higher pay.
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nono... i don't think so... some damn employer will take this opportunity to push down ur pay... they even can say u r unable to make a such rocket jump.... they will determine how many percent for offering ur pay based on ur current one... lets say only offer u 30% increase from your current salary of RM2500 where u r already at Senior Manager level..

really damn reason and justifying... vmad.gif

 

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