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post Mar 8 2010, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(cuz @ Mar 8 2010, 07:20 AM)
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post Mar 8 2010, 12:41 PM

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There is no way a wireless network can perform better than a wired network, latency wise & eventually speed wise, if TM decides to roll out 100Mbps home package HSBB.

As for latency, wireless network will definitely have a much higher latency than wired no matter how quick the speed can be. Games should stay away from wireless internet as there will be spikes in ping times and it will be affected by environmental factors. (Eg, temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure) as this technology uses wavelength over air, those factors will affect the performance. Try going to USA and use a satallite based internet connection, the latency is high (at least 100ms) but the speed is great.

As for speed, as long as the support equipment can support the load, should be no problem (assuming the ISP's back end router and backbone and all other support equipment can cater the global network and if they do REAL TIME bandwidth management). They can have multiple base stations in one area to prevent overloading/bottle-necking of a single base station. If all other factors allow(stuff inside the ISP are good and they have enough capacity), they can have multiple base stations with user limits to prevent congestion and the speeds can go higher than any speed TM is offering to home package users (now max is 10Mbps HSBB). However, if there are really too many users in an area, the "data wave" will get congested no matter how many base stations they have and there will be increased latency ( lets say your request reaches another base station you are not connected etc )

One should still remember, we, Malaysians are heavy internet users. With all that downloading and streaming, the total international bandwidth we have is unable to support all the load. We are not Japan or Korea which have their own independent fiber optics cable to western countries. We are not Singapore which is just a small nation. Our bandwidth currently relies on other people's cable links to the Western World, where all the content is. Perhaps soon we should start our own cable project and then be the one selling bandwidth to other Asian countries.

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post Mar 8 2010, 01:08 PM

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Let me put it this way, as long as BN is still our government, TM will NEVER going to R.I.P, right ?
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post Mar 8 2010, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(ZhaoYun @ Mar 8 2010, 01:08 PM)
Let me put it this way, as long as BN is still our government, TM will NEVER going to R.I.P, right ?
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i dont think anwar will do any changes .. look at penang .. where is the wifi ?
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post Mar 8 2010, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Mar 8 2010, 12:41 PM)
There is no way a wireless network can perform better than a wired network, latency wise & eventually speed wise, if TM decides to roll out 100Mbps home package HSBB.

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post Mar 8 2010, 02:10 PM

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ytl broadband is still bull shyt if they are using tmnut's backbone .. tmnut fiber backbone is screwed up...

i think ytl is going to follow p1 wimax ... put a base station in pc fair hall and tell everyone their internet 10 mbps ..

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post Mar 8 2010, 02:25 PM

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post Mar 8 2010, 02:41 PM

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do YTL & samsung have external cable that skipped the entire TMNut backbone that is entirely made of fish food (i mean, connection issue = underline cable putus... wat else is underwater? dinosaur?) and route themselves to the port in sg/ thai for the new undersea cables that is going to be installed?

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Mar 8 2010, 02:41 PM)
do YTL & samsung have external cable that skipped the entire TMNut backbone that is entirely made of fish food (i mean, connection issue = underline cable putus... wat else is underwater? dinosaur?) and route themselves to the port in sg/ thai for the new undersea cables that is going to be installed?
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post Mar 8 2010, 03:04 PM

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Bandwidth is not cheap..... if all of u hopping all the bandwidth 24/7 will cost more more to ISP.... to get better profit margin they do not upgrade their existing bandwidth but to cap your internet line.
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post Mar 8 2010, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Suk @ Mar 8 2010, 03:04 PM)
Bandwidth is not cheap..... if all of u hopping all the bandwidth 24/7 will cost more more to ISP.... to get better profit margin they do not upgrade their existing bandwidth but to cap your internet line.
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cap or not cap the line is already a crap with gap on the map

omigosh!!! i just rapped!!!
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post Mar 8 2010, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(ZhaoYun @ Mar 8 2010, 01:08 PM)
Let me put it this way, as long as BN is still our government, TM will NEVER going to R.I.P, right ?
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yup, agree.

Let's wait and see... I think ytl can beat p1 but i dun think can beat streamyx
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post Mar 8 2010, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(cuz @ Mar 8 2010, 08:20 AM)
sabah got?
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icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif SORRY BROTHER, WEST MALAYSIA FIRST...LATER IT WILL BE IN SABAH TOO.


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Added on March 8, 2010, 4:37 pm
QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 8 2010, 08:50 AM)
P1 and YTL have WiMAX licenses only. Both offers their own products.

therefore > Post #1 = moot!

YTL haven't introduce their pacakges/plans and you're saying YTL's service is better?

what YTL's services that u referring? u know their pricing/plans? u know they dont throttle? u know they wont cap? u know it's cheaper? u know their coverage is better?
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icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif YTL COMMUNICATIONS WILL DEFINATELY OFFER SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT......AS FOR THE PRICING, PLEASE WAIT FOR THEIR ANNOUNCEMENT WHEN IT IS LAUNCHED.

SO PLEASE BE PATIENT, MY FRIEND. wub.gif wub.gif


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talk is cheap. P1 ads also claiming to offer best internet connection. But still crappy. That is due to it being wireless technology. There is a reason why WiMax failed in Australia.

YTL only wimax service. We shall see but I highly doubt it will be better than streamyx or jaring. Cause no wireless can beat a wired connection.
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QUOTE(marioandluigi @ Mar 8 2010, 08:51 AM)
R.I.P streamyx? what is this another wimax? no chance la. streamyx>this even without its hsbb going yet.
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hmm.gif hmm.gif PLEASE LOOK AT THE PRICING WHEN STREAMYX OFFER HSBB. whistling.gif


biggrin.gif COMPARE LATER WHEN YTL COMMNICATION START OFFERING BROADBAND......I AM SURE WE WILL BE GETTING BETTER PACKAGES & PRICING TOO. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ Mar 8 2010, 08:53 AM)
How much Francis Yeoh pay you to post this?
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icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif JUST TRYING TO KEEP MEMBERS HERE OF WHAT TO EXPECT LATER ON AS WE HAD SUFFERED TOO MUCH UNDER STREAMYX. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(gengkey01 @ Mar 8 2010, 08:47 AM)
okay..lets hope for the best..
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icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif LET'S KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED AND HOPE FOR THE BEST TOO.......OVER TO YOU YTL COMMUNICATIONS......PLEASE DON'T DISAPPOINT US. notworthy.gif



icon_idea.gif WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU LAUNCHING. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(azrilyp @ Mar 8 2010, 08:58 AM)
TS termakan dengan kata-kata manis broadband provider....
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QUOTE(GloomyMuffin @ Mar 8 2010, 11:20 AM)
TS mayb too positive... think about that time when P1 is coming, whole malaysia was like.... YES! finally! a high speed nice broadband coming!!!!
then? we ended up disappointed..... same thing happen to tis i think.... sad
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icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif YES, WE ALL MAY BE DISAPPOINTED JUST LIKE WHEN P1 WIMAX LAUNCHES IT'S BROADBAND. AS LEAST WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE......THAT MEANS NO MORE MONOPOLY. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Mar 8 2010, 07:23 PM

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Flashback to 1995, when I started to use the internet (dialup), it was Jaring who was the premier Internet Service Provider. Jaring used to e-mail us notifications on system downtimes and connection problems beforehand.

Then in 1996 or so TM played catching up and then it's history. Why? Because Jaring couldn't match TM's resources as they are controlling the last mile connection. I heard Jaring was planning to offer wired Broadband services nationwide since more than 10 years ago. Any news then? Why then?

If YTL is going to do something different to really "kill off" Streamyx etc., it has got to be WIRED BROADBAND. And that's going to cost ALOT of $!! Are they willing to?

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