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post Mar 15 2010, 11:46 PM

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i'm not sure bout the lagging issue as you mentioned, but yes, for very basic uses like online and sms, it's already sufficient.

a higher version is usually preferred to contain more new and advanced apps or games.
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post Mar 16 2010, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Mar 15 2010, 09:38 PM)
wah don't want! HTC Tattoo design even worst!!! lol... the big giant button spoil the look... how i wish magic can hold hero firmware with no problem... but anyways, for a basic user like me, want to sms, online, call and ebuddy only... is magic good enough? basically, i sometimes do take random photos too....

and also, i want to know does the magic have any lag to it when its in the gallery... LG Viewty is super lag where u need to wait about 7-8 second to load one single image...
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of course magic can hold hero firmware with a bit of porting of course, you can find them in xda-developers forum. FYI, apart from the 3.5mm jack and 5mpx camera Hero and Magic is virtually having the same hardware. In fact, in some instances you can use Hero's Recovery smile.gif


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post Mar 16 2010, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Mar 16 2010, 01:19 AM)
of course magic can hold hero firmware with a bit of porting of course, you can find them in xda-developers forum. FYI, apart from the 3.5mm jack and 5mpx camera Hero and Magic is virtually having the same hardware. In fact, in some instances you can use Hero's Recovery smile.gif
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wow really? But i did some research on the net and some said it will lag a bit and some feature don't work properly... is that true?
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post Mar 16 2010, 04:34 PM

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lag - hmmm this is a bit subjective .. and also dependent on the cpu & memory load at that time. The way to measure performance, i'm using Linpack for Android from greencomputing http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/

you can check the submitted results as reference http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpac...pack-by-device/
you can compare the performance of hero and magic smile.gif

some feature don't work properly ?? such as ???

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post Mar 16 2010, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Mar 16 2010, 04:34 PM)
lag - hmmm this is a bit subjective .. and also dependent on the cpu & memory load at that time. The way to measure performance, i'm using Linpack for Android from greencomputing http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/

you can check the submitted results as reference http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpac...pack-by-device/
you can compare the performance of hero and magic smile.gif

some feature don't work properly ?? such as ???
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i read that some camera feature don't work and so on... maybe from u as an experience android user.... if i upgrade to hero rom.... what are the thing that cannot function properly?

And about the lag issue, all i want is it don't lag/delay while loading image... It takes about 30 second to go from standby to opening an image...

Will the HTC Magic be that lag or it still have a lag feel to it? i mean like delay while opening gallery, will it be as smooth as Sony Ericsson or iPhone?
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post Mar 17 2010, 02:35 AM

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ok, the below is purely my own experience, others experience may differ

previously i was using MyHero 2.0.5(Hero Based Sense ROM) and it serves me quite well, everything seems to work normal, call, sms, LED, trackball lights, ringer, gps, wifi, bluetooth, data, camera and all.

Currently I'm using CursorSense 1.2.6.1(Magic Based Sense ROM) and its slightly smoother/snappier compare to MyHero.

only thing that is considered crippled is the Bluetooth File Transfer. As of now, there are no Sense ROM (cupcake 1.5) that support bluetooth file transfer.

about the lag, if you compare to iPhone then i would say yes, there is but its definitely NOT 30 seconds, not even close. To open up gallery is almost instance, but it may take 2-3 seconds to load all those thumbnails (currently i have about 50 over images and 7 videos on my sdcard) , to open a single image is almost instant smile.gif

I've tried some 2.1 roms thats available, they feel even faster and snappier however certain feature still not fully available (LED, camera partially works etc etc). I'm waiting for a fully working 2.1 ROM then i'll migrate smile.gif

Hope that helps
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post Mar 17 2010, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Mar 17 2010, 02:35 AM)
ok, the below is purely my own experience, others experience may differ

previously i was using MyHero 2.0.5(Hero Based Sense ROM) and it serves me quite well, everything seems to work normal, call, sms, LED, trackball lights, ringer, gps, wifi, bluetooth, data, camera and all.

Currently I'm using CursorSense 1.2.6.1(Magic Based Sense ROM) and its slightly smoother/snappier compare to MyHero.

only thing that is considered crippled is the Bluetooth File Transfer. As of now, there are no Sense ROM (cupcake 1.5) that support bluetooth file transfer.

about the lag, if you compare to iPhone then i would say yes, there is but its definitely NOT 30 seconds, not even close. To open up gallery is almost instance, but it may take 2-3 seconds to load all those thumbnails (currently i have about 50 over images and 7 videos on my sdcard) , to open a single image is almost instant smile.gif

I've tried some 2.1 roms thats available, they feel even faster and snappier however certain feature still not fully available (LED, camera partially works etc etc). I'm waiting for a fully working 2.1 ROM then i'll migrate smile.gif

Hope that helps
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wow that really helps and gave me some knowledge about Magic... about the Rom thing i will care later... as long the preinstalled rom can serve me well than i'm fine with it! hahaha.... thanks man...

Oh, there isn't any bluetooth file transfer yet... i heard there will be one soon right?
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post Mar 17 2010, 02:46 PM

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Like i said, currently all Sense(cupcake) rom does not have BT file transfer and i don't they will in the near future.

if u need that feature, u can use non Sense (cupcake) or anything from Donut and above...
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post Mar 17 2010, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Mar 17 2010, 02:46 PM)
Like i said, currently all Sense(cupcake) rom does not have BT file transfer and i don't they will in the near future.

if u need that feature, u can use non Sense (cupcake) or anything from Donut and above...
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hmmmm, well i am not sure what u are talking 'yet'.... hahahaha... dunno what the crap are cupcakes and donut (sounds like food...) But anyways ur review and knowledge given really provides me something to look upon when i get my Magic... do u think i should wait for Desire to be release hoping the price will even drop further or should i just buy it next week when the HTC promotion at lowyat is still on?
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post Mar 18 2010, 12:36 AM

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haha, no worries ... those are android version codename

- cupcake =1.5
- donut = 1.6
- eclair = 2.0~2.1

Sense is HTC custom interface on top of Android OS, something like TouchFlo in winmo.

you will definitely get familiar with these terms once you get your Magic. Regarding when to buy, its entirely up to you man ...hahaha

good luck

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post Mar 18 2010, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Mar 18 2010, 12:36 AM)
haha, no worries ... those are android version codename

- cupcake =1.5
- donut = 1.6
- eclair = 2.0~2.1

Sense is HTC custom interface on top of Android OS, something like TouchFlo in winmo.

you will definitely get familiar with these terms once you get your Magic. Regarding when to buy, its entirely up to you man ...hahaha

good luck
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oh alright! Thats another good thing to know... biggrin.gif! ok when i get the Magic... i'll post it here... biggrin.gif
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post Apr 11 2010, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Mar 18 2010, 01:29 AM)
oh alright! Thats another good thing to know... biggrin.gif! ok when i get the Magic... i'll post it here... biggrin.gif
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I just go PC fair, and notice magic still Rm1499 without negotiation yet. The sales guy told me they discontinue this product. So no more white model for me. I shall wait for HTC legend price drop then...

Magic no market place.... else I already bought it... sigh...
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post Apr 11 2010, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(mycacha @ Apr 11 2010, 06:50 PM)
I just go PC fair, and notice magic still Rm1499 without negotiation yet. The sales guy told me they discontinue this product. So no more white model for me. I shall wait for HTC legend price drop then...

Magic no market place.... else I already bought it... sigh...
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You can always root it to get Market if you want... brows.gif Browse through the Magic's official thread and you'll found that many have done it. thumbup.gif

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post Apr 11 2010, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(wiind @ Apr 11 2010, 08:22 PM)
You can always root it to get Market if you want...  brows.gif Browse through the Magic's official thread and you'll found that many have done it.  thumbup.gif
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Ya.. but because when I buy, it's new, afraid spoiled the warranty.... izzit very easy to root it?
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post Apr 12 2010, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(mycacha @ Apr 11 2010, 09:40 PM)
Ya.. but because when I buy, it's new, afraid spoiled the warranty.... izzit very easy to root it?
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correct me if im wrong ppl, but i heard, after rooting...if theres any probz wid phone n u hav to send bac for warranty, u cn always jus RE-root it bac..?? hmmm...is dis true?? tongue.gif

 

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