Just asking for your opinion guys.

I've been keeping myself rather up to date with reviews of FF13 (Both Jap and Eng)

When the Jap version came out, it was heavily criticized by the fans and also there was a dramatic price drop.

But then the review for Eng Version just came out by Gamespot ( http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/finalfantasy13/review.html ) and it got 8.5/10

How come this happen? Is there a difference between Eng and Jap version? Or is it just that the expectations from the Western world is just much lower compared to the Japs?

What about your opinion?

P/S: Sorry if I offended anyone by this topic, just asking for opinions, cheers.

This post has been edited by zhou86: Mar 7 2010, 04:23 AM

mostly the western was annoyed by vanille's voice acting

I can't say about the Jap guys' opinions, but perhaps exploration and a horribly annoying character's sound dropped the bomb on the westerners.

But its mostly the exploration. Everything is now very linear. heck, even FF XII was WAY MORE expansive.

shouldnt this be ask in the ffxiii thread instead of making a new thread for this?

Was it really given bad reviews from the japanese press though ?
IIRC the major japanese reviewers Famitsu (39/40) and Dengeki (duno but it was high i believe) gave it high reviews and praised it . This is in-line with most of the western reviews that are slowly surfacing . The bad "reviews" seem to be more from buyer comments from amazon.jp and poster comments from 2chan etc .

Crisis Core was linear but i like it.
Crisis Core battle system was different but i like it

perhaps the expectation was too high because of the LOOONNNG wait

its cause everybody was expecting a ff7's ff13.

everyone's mindset is poison by advent children and ff7 thats why ppl dont like what they did not get.

so the better version is:
FFXIII chinese version for those who understand chinese....

jp voice + chinese sub, best way

But I think the characters are kinda engaging though.... More emotions in it..

I duno bout FFXIII .. cuz I haven play it.. But duno why.. It fails to attract me when I first come across it.. Had a feeling that it "may" not be that great..

Eventhough sidequest is nice to have.. But whn it gets too hard.. It is kinda frustrating.. I dun like repeating it too many times or wait till the level of hardness decrease....

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Added on March 8, 2010, 2:03 amI agree... lol.. Cloud, Sephiroth, tifa and aerith had make their presence a tad bit too strong for most of the people.. It became FF legend.. Eventhough its just normal hero vs villain plot.. XD

I duno.. But I feel more "soul" in them than other FF character... My opinion though..

This post has been edited by lilko: Mar 8 2010, 02:04 AM

Because everyone was so damn frustrated by Cloud who didn't jump in bed with Tifa despite her err...HUGE ASSETS. Everyone was just looking foward to sequel where Cloud will stop acting like a gay and do the RIGHT THING.

LOL.

haha... true... forgotten about that 'fact'... lol.. XD

Cloud gay? Like how is he so gay ? Didn't notice it tho'..

he is gay. He has a huge urge for sephiroth.

and shows no increase of homon infront of Tifa.

but when u just mention Sephiroth, look at how he < CENSORED>

he is oso so much in love with zack until he takes on Zack's persona

WTF? seriously? is he so over the moon for Sephiroth? oh my..

So, he is best friend with Zack and fell in love with him? reminds me of fanfiction with the letter "Y" in it..

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Added on March 8, 2010, 2:22 pmWhoops, forgive me for being out of topic..

This post has been edited by Trishharas: Mar 8 2010, 02:22 PM

haha... Atleast Zacks not that gay...and Sephiroth... When he get pretty evil.. very Kick ass!! But angeal and genesis are very gay... lol lol.. XD

Sorry for the steer... XD

But somehow... I duno.. I think the advertisement of FFXIII is quite fierce.. So, maybe the gamer review cannot like give it too low score? Well, at least the graphic is beautiful and its mainstream FF series... So have to give face abit.. Or maybe the western counterpart din expect "that" much from the JRPG? XD

This post has been edited by lilko: Mar 8 2010, 05:28 PM

the belly button alone is 10/10

Angeal Genesis.

Zack Sephiroth.
Cloud Zack.

Cloud take zack personality.

Cloud Sephiroth.

Before cloud took over zack persona, all cloud can think of is zack, following zack around.

FF7 is yaoi in the background.

that's why most ppl can't get enough of this epic..

does this mean many people are gay for liking it? Lol.. XD

FF7 have so much yaoi in the background. In fact some fans even write fanfiction for Sephiroth, Zack and Cloud..

True enough..hahahahaa~

Nolah...liking it doesn't make you gay what..relax la...

Btw, FF13 is out today. Or as in US, by tomorrow..hurm..

I think I better try playing it for better judgement.

This post has been edited by Trishharas: Mar 10 2010, 08:06 AM

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That's what i thought too

HAHAHHAH!!! this post made me LOL


sooo true....for such a hot character (reminds me of Rikku) she has a terible voice....and why the heck did they go for Australian accent >_>

the acent fits Oerba Yun Fang but not Vanille

p/s: ALL THE CHICKS ARE HOT NI FFXIII

maybe final fantasy should all be about cloud then the score will have 10/10

since when FF series got ugly chicks?

oh..maybe 7 coz Cloud is much more prettier

Someone never played FFIX

Vivi's wife Qui.. NVM

Lol... I'd say Sephiroth is the most beautifull of them all~~ wahahaha...

This post has been edited by lilko: Mar 9 2010, 10:42 PM

Only when he is evil right?

Yea.. Bad ass-ly smexy...

actually theres cloud....... and theres lightning....

so if cloud = gay, lightning = also?
so the next FF will have to have babies from these 2?

Hmm... I see bisexual....

i dun remember the non humans one

although FF9 is a good game, looking at garnet makes me go loli

This post has been edited by PhoenixByte: Mar 10 2010, 04:45 AM

I knew it..great minds think a like..i think we both going to get along very well..

Hahahahaha..Bi alert then..

Yup..Cloud - Gay and Lighting - het? very funny...

Just got this game!

will try tonight

Yea.. Lets get along!! Heheheh.. Great minds think alike~~ lol.. XD
Love the way he talk to cloud... So high and mighty.. Looking down on him..His superiority complex..Muahahaha...

Oh yesh...Seph is a bad-ass..

I think I'll buy FF13 next week...weeeeee!~

despite the fact that almost all the replies in this thread has almost nothing to do with what the thread was originally about, i found this thread quite fun.

anyway, my response to ts is that gamespot is a sellout. to this day i still remember the kane and lynch scandal that happened.

one of gamespots main sponsors at that time was kane n lynch (can see it on the front page that time i think), but their reviewer gave it an honest but brutal review 4/10 i think. that guy was fired.

want reviews?

try metacritic

Thanks for following up on the topic lol.
I did have a look at Metacritic, it got a 82/100 ( http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/finalfantasy13 )
I guess its not too bad to get the game, no?

But I read somewhere that prices for FF13 Jap version dropped drastically just after weeks it came out. If the score is not bad, how come the price can drop like that? If I not mistaken, i see prices of USD$24 ( http://www.siliconera.com/2010/02/22/final...test-hits-game/ ) which is around RM84.

I find that weird.

I agree with you though... Its bit over rated for the western taste.. There are many hardcore gamers there who loves gore and blood games more than anything... FF is way~ too linear for thm.. But Microsoft put so much effort in selling it.. XD

Yet, I think FFXIII is still good.. for my taste.. I love the so many cutscenes... hahaha..

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Added on March 11, 2010, 12:07 amErm... Perhaps this game has too many copies...

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Added on March 11, 2010, 12:07 amGo go go~!!! XD

This post has been edited by lilko: Mar 11 2010, 12:07 AM

why wouldn't it dropped?

there's already asian version where u can hv jap audio n chinese sub and also there's also the english version. Would u choose a Jap ver if u couldn't understand a word in it?

I dun mind if it is Japanese but have English subs in it..But alas, all in Japanese..So yea, i prefer English one than the Jap ver..Huhuhuhu~

But the price I checked is the price they sold in Japan. 2222yen.
Probably the Japanese didn't like it? But the westerners think otherwise?

Scores has nothing to do with market price, it's the demand and supply that determines the price. And may be some words of mouth too (that's why Radiant Silvergun still expensive )

You are pissed because Radiant Silvergun is still expensive?

Btw, every reviews I read, some gives low score, some are medium high scores. but who cares about the scores anyway. it's the demand and supply that matters.

maybe coz the skirt in FFXIII is not long enough n not short enough like gundam's sig

Played for an hour. So far saw 2 female characters.. both wear short-enough skirts. but with hot pants

FFXIII must have terrible character designs

and illogical. why hot pants + mini skirt

perhaps that is the censored one

must look for uncensored version

erm, if u want to read about 2chan reviews and why ppl hate it so much, google **WARNING** NSFW material maybe found at that website... mods pls be sporting abit, i m warning people and i m not giving an exact link...

anyway to those who "scared click coz got virus" the laments include:

control only 1 character thru out the game, the rest are using an improved gambit/auto ai controlled system where all u need to do is set the behaviour eg. be healer, or be buffer or be tank or be attacker... stuff like that

no towns. seriously no towns

no "shops". u "shop" at save points using some "online" shop.

as stated, damn linear

gets boring and old very fast but ppl claim the game becomes more interesting and less linear after 8-15 hours (can tahan that long ar?)

stuff u buy at shops arent worth it. theyre either too expensive or when u can afford to buy them, you'd prolly get something better from mob drops. in addition to that, apparently the stuff u can buy is always not as good as what u can get from drops

the rpg-ness is not traditional, after every battle, you are automatically healed up. if u lose, u can restart back at the very begining of the battle with no repercussions

players claim that just selecting "attack" all the way works most of the time.

other random trivia stuff:

ff13 was originally meant for ps2, but was scrapped in favor of ps3, losing 1 n a half years worth of work. in relation to that the developers themselves admitted that they omitted towns because it was too much work - ps3 quality standards are quite high.

Yup, that is the same review I saw.
And it provided lots of details of how bad it is.
I mean, jrpg without towns...not nice leh...and not really FF's style. "Too much work" to me is like a very lame excuse.
And controlling only 1 character... *duhhhh*

So I guess the best is to wait for any personal reviews by our fellow Malaysians here at LYN. =)

Post your comments here if you played the game! Encourage or Warn us about the game.

or maybe have to complete certain side quest to remove them.

well i have a friend
one reason he bought ps3 was coz of ff 13
he loves ff
he can read jap (more or less)

he got the jap version
played it
and his opinion to the game?

BORING

LOL!! GG!!!
Luckily my reason for PS3 is not that.
Somemore they made it available for XBOX360. LAME!

lol

are u so lazy that u can't go to the PS3 thread n click on the FFXIII thread for their opinions?

so do u think FFX is linear or not? i still don't know why ppl are so worked up over this...since when does the new gen FF is so sandboxy?

gundam's siggy is......superb.....

whenever the name FF (insert number here) is used, square enix is supposed to uphold the gamers expectations.

i dont expect FF to be like GTA but seriously its becoming more of an interactive movie. let s just compare ff 13 with ff 12.

lets just take the first 3 hours.

ff 12 : explore town, talk to people, go out of town do quest kill stuff, level up, explore the boundaries of the map

ff 13 : go forward. move forward. press on forward.save point. move forward. repeat.

not to forget, the battles are not random, you see the enemies on the map, when you get near them they attack you. you cannot "RUN" from the battle. you cannot sneak past the enemies (out of battle).

so once theyre defeated, u move forward. dont forget, once u "finish" one map, you cant suddenly say "shit i missed that treasure chest" and run back, coz once ure in a new map, theres no turning back.

yea.. so far... its been extremely linear... till you wonder why they didn't put in an auto run to bad guy and get it over with... lol

Can't even elak (avoid) the bad guys?
At least Eternal Sonata you can see the bad guys also, but can avoid them.

the characters in FF13 are very "MAN"
they never back down from a fight!

I haven't played the game.

But I hate linearity and boring storyline.
I want back the feeling while playing FF7,8,9 and 10. But I think FFXIII will let me down once more after X2 and XII.

SE need to go through their mistakes in XII and XIII and do very well in FFvXIII. If not, they will lose huge FF fanbase since next FF will be MMORPG in which not many people will be interested and FFXV will take much longer time to be out. During this period, if they still fail to impress in FFvXIII, FF series's glory will become history.

u can avoid la
those who said can't obviously haven't played it

the only thing u can't do is run away from the active battle...

I think you can right? Press start, then select. Then you will move back to the moment before you engage the enemy, right?

3 hours into this game.

Tilt left stick to move, press O in battle. Watch it. thats all ones need to do.

so far no level up function (still in chapter 2). thus no point to engage in battles that are avoidable.

boring background.. very boring space station / space city like background with uninteresting enemies (robot type).

graphics are pretty nice. But FF13 is not even leading in graphics if compared to Heavy rain / uncharted 2.

story is the usual ff style with many many names that i don't normally bother.

but its not a bad game really.. just that expectations are too high for most of us.

meh... no rpg games are not linear... Its all fight, cutscene plus towns and caves.... U dun play jrpg and expect it to have like superb fight. Although many try to do it now.. Maybe u say... Its time to change jrpg.. But... sometimes not ervy new things is an enjoyable thing.. And dun tell me the stories of any games are as good as a movie or a drama?? So unexpected?? Then you might as well read a novel...

Though I cant entirely say that this is the best series.. Cuz the characters are too normal... You feel them more as a team than an individual characters... There are not so much of truly heartfelt emotions.. maybe some.. compare to their previous predecessors.. In which some may not like it.. Cuz FF was "suppose" to give you an awe on their characters... The deep bonding between the players and the characters.. Although have to admit oso la... Not much interaction of like.. to so some small trivial stuff which is very interesting indeed..Well, Small achievements make you happy dun they? Well, This one big expectation that was not meet lead to many flaws that they cant be over look anymore..

But, please dun say FFXIII is boring just by hearing others... Even though u dun feel them individually.. But as a team... it was still a nice storyline.. If you are a fan of FF.. This is not much of a disappointment.. If you are new .. And you are a hardcore gamer since like a long long time ago or are very spoilt by action base game... Then.. yea... you might as well just pick up GOWIII for the gruesome fight and leave FF alone... There is no point in condemning a game.. Its your personal taste.. Take it or leave it...


Eternal Sonata is boring... lol...
If you finish the game.. I think FFXIII is more than ok... XD


PS: I kinda like snow.. XD.. Eventhough Sephiroth is oways number one in my heart...

This post has been edited by lilko: Mar 14 2010, 03:10 AM

really aa? i didn't know that i tot that is for skipping cutscene or transformation animation only
my bad

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Added on March 14, 2010, 5:02 amthat's the problem i guess...ppl always expect too high...

i agree thought that the pace of the story is really slow...it is only when u reach

for ppl without patience...it is easily bored fest for them.

This post has been edited by PhoenixByte: Mar 14 2010, 05:02 AM

ok.. its getting more interesting after the "Day 11" scenes.. and the intro of paradigm and the level up system.

Vanille..... why so BRITISH??????

not british la..aussie

He was voiced by an Aussie perhaps?

of course...that's why the thick accent

Hahahaha cool..I'm so going to get my hands on that..

so.... why so AUSSIE!!!

well, there's american accent for the afro guy...why not aussie for 2 of the girls

Vannille's a GUY!? OMFG SPOILER ALERT!



J/k

Vanille is a "she"?

Hahahahahahaha..My bad..

you can sneak past mobs but a lot of them need you to use an item to aid you with that tasks... and a lot of those treasure ball chest are guarded by mobs

Aussie and British seems to be same... at first
anyway bcoz of tht gamespot hates her

I need some serious motivation to continue playing this game....
yesterday went to play ps2 game pulak.

I quite like the game. Quite addicted to it actually. The story is pretty interesting, the voice dubbing/acting is done quite well. And I suppose the thing with Vanille is also quite matching. The character in game acts pretty annoying IMO

The level up system is quite cool. It reminds me of FF10's system. I think the battle system is pretty interesting. I quite hated the random battle kind as it interferes with exploring the map and awe-ing at the graphics.

I think this is the fourth FF game I will finish after FF7 and FF8 and FF10.

sell this one..buy GOW3

Overall, i think FFXIII is a very good game RPG wise.

Those that review it to be too linear mostly is base on story/gameplay of FF7 or FF8.

But i think games should be change in time, can't always stick to the old glory style.....



The battle system is the best in all those FF i play so far (7/8/9/10/10-2/12), i think is abit of FF10 + FF10-2 + FF12 + abit of its unique style

I guess its all up to individual preference yea?
I think I will try the game sometime too...but definitely not top of my Wishlist...

GOW3 = wishlist lol

I heard that Square Enix cuts some content that were originally to be included in the final game, those are town locations right? Maybe we could see Final Fantasy XIII: Director's Cut in the future.

maybe in international version..who knows

Do you guys find that the battle speed is too fast? its too fast for me to actually select the command and watch the battle.

In most of the battles, I ended up -

1) select the commands
2) check the HP bar
3) select commands / items
4) check the HP bar
.
.
.

I ended up not watching the battle at all. I don't even know if the enemies died or not and sometimes the battle just end without even realising it.

The ATB was slower in FF7.

Anyone have similiar feelings?

u can actually adjust the battle speed in the setting u know

i use slower settings

hv time to think and watch the fight

hmm really... i try tonight

What happen?

I would say that FF graphics are inbetween HR and UC2. Heavy rain graphics arent that good compare to the demo that i played.
Feel when played the game something is missing from it.

Lack of motivation to play..
currently playing RE5 Alt Edition

actually there are many rpg that are not linear like fallout 2, only JRPGs are almost always linear (except special cases like chrono trigger). if you say an rpg is about fighting, cutscene plus towns and caves, then FF 13 is not an rpg as it does not have towns. I wont say that its time to change JRPG, instead do something different. however for FF they shouldnt change so much. if it changes alot then the fans wont like it anymore. novel? some great rpg stories are more entertaining than novels, some games (both rpg and none rpg) have better story than many movies i know.

FF 13 is definitely not the best of it's series. many reviewers say so as well. Actually your comment is the wrong way round. If you are a fan of FF, you will feel dissappointed. But if you have never played FF or any JRPG before, this game can be a good game.

FF 13 is a good game BUT is a bad RPG.

Lol... people had been obsess with words like WRPG, JRPG, action RPG and stuff like that.. It doesn't matter wat kinda genre it is as long as it good game and you role play the character.. RPG or not.. Who cares? So what the reviewers say its bad... They just happen to like other genre more.. After such a long time.. People change.. Its been more than 10 years mate.. Besides, everyone is different.. Some like pizza other like sushi? Some hate both some like both or either.. Point is.. Its your taste.. So why judge a game using people's point of view? Whether a game is good onot, you can vaguely tell.. Unless you have the same taste with the reviewer.. That, I have nothing to say..

Well, people say allot about disappointment and stuff cuz they keep looking back and compare to the previous series.. Am sure that there are fans out there who are not the same as "other" fans that you are referring to as in the incapability in accepting new style.. So please dun brand everyone under the same categories...But, ok, on second thoughts, I take back my words on old FF fans will not be disappointed.. Cuz it seems like most of the fans are like that.. and I wrote it in my point of view..

Also many people think they are superior when they played the full whole series of it or play dozens and dozens of game since oldsch... lol.. Game is just something that waste your time and money, with not much knowledge given but you still love it kinda thing.. Except maybe a short getaway from reality.. Ok.. I apologize for offending.. But aint it true? So Why condemn a game like your a divine guru of sort when in fact its not as bad? Why are many influence by what one person says or by some people who love to sabo something that is big?

Anyway as long as the main juice was there, it doesn't matter what new concept SE give.. Conclusion is... FFXIII is not a bad game, rpg or wateva u wan to think about it.. Gamers who are always look dwn by many were suppose (not must or necessary) have a more open mind.. But I guess its all the same.. Perhaps worst? Well, if you dun like it then leave it be.. No point turning people off and not give it a chance at all... Who knows, you dun like it... Others might like it aye?

This post has been edited by lilko: Mar 30 2010, 03:39 AM