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Surround Speaker Cables, which brand & types?
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TSmikapoh
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Mar 2 2010, 09:09 PM, updated 16y ago
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Lets talk about surround speakers cables. Most of us have been concentrating on front channels cables.
What type of surround speakers cables do you use? I am using QED classic normal type. Do you think by using a sliver type will improve the rear sound significantly? What's your view?
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mpyw
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Mar 2 2010, 09:54 PM
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nope....even if it does...u wont feel it as it's only ambient sound.... unless u listen to orchestra a lot....for movie...any 16-12awg cable will do
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htkaki
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Mar 2 2010, 10:02 PM
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limpe using the cheap and proven Belden 1131A for surr.
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matyeo
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Mar 2 2010, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 2 2010, 10:02 PM) limpe using the cheap and proven Belden 1131A for surr. me only Pasar road cable for surround........
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arremie
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Mar 2 2010, 11:52 PM
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Before this I was using only Monster THX for surround but since my run is more than 50ft I have to get a bigger cable than 16awg to reduce the resistance. So now I'm using QED Original (about 13awg). Good improvement for the surround especially during peak volume. Anyway just for reference... [attachmentid=1464958] For those who doesn't know what AWG your cable is... [attachmentid=1464961] Remember you must measure only the diameter of copper inside and not together with the insulation
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VSX-AX2as
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Mar 3 2010, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(arremie @ Mar 2 2010, 11:52 PM) Before this I was using only Monster THX for surround but since my run is more than 50ft I have to get a bigger cable than 16awg to reduce the resistance. So now I'm using QED Original (about 13awg). Good improvement for the surround especially during peak volume. Anyway just for reference... [attachmentid=1464958] For those who doesn't know what AWG your cable is... [attachmentid=1464961] Remember you must measure only the diameter of copper inside and not together with the insulation  In theorytically cable in long running distance will loss its capability to carry audio signal. So i think u should seek lowest gauge wire for example 12 AWG etc...Only my 2 cents bro
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putih
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Mar 3 2010, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(VSX-AX2as @ Mar 3 2010, 12:38 AM) In theorytically cable in long running distance will loss its capability to carry audio signal. So i think u should seek lowest gauge wire for example 12 AWG etc...Only my 2 cents bro Yep agree. But for cheapo solution, if you run thin wires for surrounds, just increase 1 or 2 db for the rear speakers. Solve most people problem. But if you are listening to audiophile multichannel sound, you'd better get proper cables.
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arremie
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Mar 3 2010, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE(VSX-AX2as @ Mar 3 2010, 12:38 AM) In theorytically cable in long running distance will loss its capability to carry audio signal. So i think u should seek lowest gauge wire for example 12 AWG etc...Only my 2 cents bro Why did I choose 13awg cable over a bigger cable like 12 awg or maybe even 10awg? Got a few reason. 1) Smaller cable easier to route (we are talking about surround speakers after all). 2) The bigger the cable will reduce resistance for sure but at the same time capacitance will increase. High capacitance over a longer distance will loose the higher part of audio signal. Not good for surround eh where usually carry mostly mid n high of those special effect audio. That's why you need to know what is the optimal size for the length you are running and not simply hentam the biggest cable you can afford
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matyeo
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Mar 3 2010, 02:52 AM
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QUOTE(arremie @ Mar 2 2010, 11:52 PM) Before this I was using only Monster THX for surround but since my run is more than 50ft I have to get a bigger cable than 16awg to reduce the resistance. So now I'm using QED Original (about 13awg). Good improvement for the surround especially during peak volume. Anyway just for reference... [attachmentid=1464958] For those who doesn't know what AWG your cable is... [attachmentid=1464961] Remember you must measure only the diameter of copper inside and not together with the insulation  i plan to upgrade mine....this is good input...
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VSX-AX2as
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Mar 3 2010, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(putih @ Mar 3 2010, 12:51 AM) Yep agree. But for cheapo solution, if you run thin wires for surrounds, just increase 1 or 2 db for the rear speakers. Solve most people problem. But if you are listening to audiophile multichannel sound, you'd better get proper cables. Agree..one of the way to safe my wallet
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TSmikapoh
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Mar 3 2010, 01:33 PM
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Thanks for the input. I think all the hard & facts you could find in HT book cannot be hidden from arremie. He can digs every single facts out!
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VSX-AX2as
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Mar 3 2010, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Mar 3 2010, 01:33 PM) Thanks for the input. I think all the hard & facts you could find in HT book cannot be hidden from arremie. He can digs every single facts out!  Is he head master
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ah_chak
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Mar 4 2010, 04:03 PM
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i just use QED One Series for my surround which i think it's pretty good as my run is only 10m each..
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VSX-AX2as
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Mar 4 2010, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(ah_chak @ Mar 4 2010, 04:03 PM) i just use QED One Series for my surround which i think it's pretty good as my run is only 10m each.. How it cost per meter
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arremie
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Mar 4 2010, 05:14 PM
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QED One only available in 10m or 20m length. Cost is about RM80 for 10m.
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radovantz
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Mar 4 2010, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(arremie @ Mar 4 2010, 05:14 PM) QED One only available in 10m or 20m length. Cost is about RM80 for 10m. where could i get the QED One that costs RM80 for 10m? is it suitable for front channels? I use cheap wire for surround speakers and think Audyssey MultiEq could do some balancing task
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arremie
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Mar 4 2010, 05:30 PM
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if ur system cost rm800 then it's ok to use rm80 cable. if ur system is 8k then malu lah http://www.futureshop.co.uk/qed-one-incogn...-10m-p-787.html
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mpyw
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Mar 4 2010, 05:31 PM
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as long as it works....why malu??
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arremie
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Mar 4 2010, 05:35 PM
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not the owner. the avr and speakers malu coz they use cheap cable
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terranova
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Mar 4 2010, 06:47 PM
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lol. speakers and avr now also got emotions one ar? hahaha ... cute.
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