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Model Kits Gundam & Mecha Modelling Thread v14, Bandai Stuffs and the like go here

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post Jul 9 2010, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(DonutZai @ Jul 9 2010, 02:08 PM)
not sure bout hobby shop but i see JJ sells them >20% higher than retail.
most of the time they have the discount stickers on them.
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what I mean is. the JJ price is the SRP in Malaysia (set by Litt Tak I think; if you go to Litt Tak store in Sg Wang, you can see the price is similar to JJ), while the cheaper price in local shops are actually below the SRP in Malaysia.

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post Jul 9 2010, 02:27 PM

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Hah very well said Exiled_Gundam and Rayloke

Well.... can't blame departmental stores in this case. Some ppl win and some ppl lose sweat.gif
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post Jul 9 2010, 04:57 PM

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Bandai usually the big winner, lol!
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post Jul 9 2010, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(rayloke @ Jul 9 2010, 01:30 PM)
Because the distributor (Litt Tak) gotta do advertisement, point of sale (standees, wobbler etc) , dealing with big departmental stores (jusco, parkson etc) in consignment term (means they ll return whatever cannot sell), promotions, events (gundam competition), Bandai's request of "eating up" those slow moving kits, Bandai's pricing, distribution, government taxes, and now the new safety standard our government comes out with.

All these money spent, definitely they would want to earn back the money; they r a business entity too.

Hence prices r higher.
Whereas, individual shops, who deals with or themselves are parallel importers, basically they can just enjoy the publicity Litt Tak has invested in; putting almost RM0 in promotion. Sometimes, they might able to avoid taxes too. Therefore their prices r lower.

It's like a 40km marathon. I fella "gotta" follow the pre set route n run all 40km. Another fella takes short cut. Of course it would be easier for the second fella to reach the destination.
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Your example is what we call grey marketing, something like what we have with cellphones here in Malaysia; original handset and AP handset, but this is not the case with Gunpla. BOTH retail giants and small private shops could still be buying from LT, yet the selling price could be significantly different, as pointed out by Exiled_Gundam at the bottom.

Although i agree with you that some small shops do parallel importing on their own, which would then justify their lower price.


QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Jul 9 2010, 01:57 PM)
Actually I think the Jaya Jusco price is the suggested retail price for Malaysia (usually departmental store will just follow the SRP), while the actual price Litt Tak sold the gunplas(which of course within the price they already include taxes, shipping etc) to retailer I think should not be much cheaper than the standard gunpla price in local toy shops. The suggested retail price are not mandatory to be followed, thus shops can sell lower than the SRP if they want (of course, with lower profit margin). This is similar like in Japan also, where most of the time you can see shops there sell gunplas cheaper than the suggested price there (original yen price). If you want to know whether the gunpla stock in a shop comes from Litt Tak, just check on the side of the box.. those that comes from Litt Tak will have their sticker there (I noticed even shop that sells lower than JJ price got their stock from Litt Tak)
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Assuming that both the retail giant and the small private shop got their stocks from LT, what would be the cause of the price difference?

1 - As pointed out by Exiled_Gundam, retail giants follow the RRP (usually stated in their contractual agreement) while the smaller shops are not bound by such terms. Retailers are allowed to go above the RRP but not lower (as a price control mechanism by the manufacturer/distributor). Current RRP follows Yen X 0.0507. Around that.

2 - Retail giants do a lot of promotional efforts, which require a lot of money, where the costs are then transferred to Gunpla (and other products). Smaller shops do little or no advertising at all. rayloke had a similar argument but he emphasized it on the distributor, LT, instead.

3 - Similar to #2, retail giants incur more costs (hidden or visible), and this again is transferred to customers in the price.

4 - Retail giants aim to achieve higher profit margin. Smaller shops aim for higher sales.

5 - To target the "desperate" customer. When their price is expensive, not many people buy from them, and you might just find some rare Gunpla there. Same argument applies to TimeMachine. Their stocks arrive faster, and they have quite a number of kits that are unavailable elsewhere, all at a higher price.

In another view point:
Not necessarily the retail giants are the more expensive ones. In the long run, buying from them MIGHT just be cheaper than smaller shops, considering the fact that they give discounts quite often (-20% and sometimes additional -10%). Yen conversion after 20% discount is 0.04, which is quite close to what smaller shops are regularly selling. Not forgetting that some retailers give membership benefits like cash vouchers when you spend above a certain limit. Also, most of your products have warranty (provided you have the receipt and within the time frame given) even for toys, unlike smaller shops.




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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Jul 9 2010, 09:58 AM)
whoa i like the Qan-T's sword...
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Have to join up so many parts, it might be flimsy... doh.gif

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jul 9 2010, 01:03 PM)
Oh the weight on my shoulder...
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...or on the wrist and elbow. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Jul 9 2010, 09:58 AM)
tht 'SD Sangokuden Shin "Luxurious" Ryusou Ryubi Gundam' is expensive la.. can buy MG liao at 3990 yen. bleh...
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Bigger size, bigger price. laugh.gif


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post Jul 9 2010, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Parody @ Jul 9 2010, 06:09 PM)
Have to join up so many parts, it might be flimsy...  doh.gif

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...or on the wrist and elbow.  sweat.gif


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i just like the inner one only. other accessories are meh
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post Jul 9 2010, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(Parody @ Jul 9 2010, 06:09 PM)
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whoa~.... shocking.gif
the freaking sword can join together? blink.gif
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QUOTE(gaiachronicler @ Jul 9 2010, 08:43 PM)
whoa~.... shocking.gif
the freaking sword can join together? blink.gif
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even i didnt know that blink.gif big thumbs up for that
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post Jul 9 2010, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(gaiachronicler @ Jul 9 2010, 08:43 PM)
whoa~.... shocking.gif
the freaking sword can join together? blink.gif
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Yup. But you gotta remember, the clear parts come in white and not green. doh.gif

More images of HG 1/144 Quanta...

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...and the expo limited editions:

MG Destiny (Heine Custom) wub.gif

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HG 1/144 RX-78-2 30th Anniversary Edition (G3 colors)

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post Jul 10 2010, 04:48 AM

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i hope shops bring in that Destiny.. better than the normal Destiny colour scheme..
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post Jul 10 2010, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Parody @ Jul 9 2010, 11:41 PM)
Yup. But you gotta remember, the clear parts come in white and not green.  doh.gif

More images of HG 1/144 Quanta...

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Arh... spoiler of the movie.... sad.gif

Shoudn't click it...
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post Jul 10 2010, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Parody @ Jul 9 2010, 11:41 PM)
More images of HG 1/144 Quanta...

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DAMN!!!
Now you poisoned me to buy HG Quanta oredy. Hehehehehe~~~
But really like the gimmick.Especially got free 2-way stand.Clear version somemore. Hehehehe~~~

Anyway, normally Litt Tak will launch their End Year Wholesale on what date ha?
Forgot about the date for last year. I really hope they will make after 7th December.Huhuhuhu~~~

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post Jul 10 2010, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Kikifish @ Jul 10 2010, 04:48 AM)
i hope shops bring in that Destiny.. better than the normal Destiny colour scheme..
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Yes. Hopefully the price is not inflated. rclxms.gif



QUOTE(Hellscream @ Jul 10 2010, 10:39 AM)
Arh... spoiler of the movie.... sad.gif

Shoudn't click it...
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That's why i put it in a spoiler tag blush.gif



QUOTE(afsarudy @ Jul 10 2010, 10:51 AM)
Anyway, normally Litt Tak will launch their End Year Wholesale on what date ha?
Forgot about the date for last year. I really hope they will make after 7th December.Huhuhuhu~~~
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Last year was about a week before Christmas.



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Remember the Korean dudes that brought us the ACGUY Billiard groupbuild from a few pages back?

Now they're doing something amazing for the Korean expo at the end of this month!

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I know this should be posted in the SD thread, but this is just too awesome to miss out.

These are their work-in-progress pictures (warning: large images ahead) :

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More of their WIP can be found in the link at the last picture, but you will have to register at the Korean forum to see it.

Great work. All the best to them! notworthy.gif

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post Jul 10 2010, 05:30 PM

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WHOA!! tht's dio for Sanguo right?
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Jul 10 2010, 05:30 PM)
WHOA!! tht's dio for Sanguo right?
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Yup. Impressive, right?

You can view a video of their work here: Big Scale Diorama

And here's an image of MG DS EW Version:

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post Jul 10 2010, 06:05 PM

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ok la truth be told it isn't tht bad la. just maybe lack some details/lines on the armor.

but of cos, A devil without its wing is meh tongue.gif
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try add zero custom wing and recolor to black brows.gif
sure look badass blink.gif

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^kenot. devil with angelic wing? apa kejadah doh.gif
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death angel lo. even angel have dark side ma laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Parody @ Jul 10 2010, 06:01 PM)
And here's an image of MG DS EW Version:

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doh.gif

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All I want to complain about is it design to similar EW version. sad.gif

and white colour doh.gif

I feel white is not suitable for dead, all DS gundam should in black, dark green or grey....but why white ? sad.gif
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QUOTE(Hellscream @ Jul 10 2010, 06:57 PM)
All I want to complain about is it design to similar EW version. sad.gif 

and white colour doh.gif

I feel white is not suitable for dead, all DS gundam should in black, dark green or grey....but why white ?  sad.gif
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Err actually DS TV version (including DS Hell) have white-yellow-black color scheme. The only DS not in white is DS Hell EW version.

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