QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 31 2010, 05:16 PM)
lolz. that survey is 100% based on academics which is unfortunately not quite suitable in todays world.
we are talking more about graduate attributes, about high employment rates of students who graduated from that uni.
not how many Nobel Prize winners that uni has. 20 marks for this criteria. astounding. having a Nobel Prize winner does not guarantee quality education for the students.
* For institutions specialized in humanities and social sciences such as London School of Economics, N&S is not considered, and the weight of N&S is relocated to other indicators.see, these rankings dun even cover those aspects. what? means LSE is bad because it does not have scientific research?
on the other hand, if you wanna look at research and work in the acedemic field for the rest of your life, then yes, please follow that arwu rankings.
having Nobel prize winners and whatever award holders as your lecturers will certainly make a lot of difference in your thesis and research work..
Added on July 31, 2010, 5:18 pmnot only times.
entryman has posted few other ranking bodies in his previous posts and monash outranks nottingham in general.
half of the qs ranking is based on online survey and nobody really knows what the sources are and the result can easily be faked/biased.
-http://research.qsnetwork.com/qs_surveysystem/index.php?viewonly&order=normal&partnerset=0&survey=52&jump_to_section=3
from the above webpage you can see QS-times ask for research quality in the peer review survey too (40%), but this is very inaccurate as there is no data backing it up, just a personal "feeling".
Here is a direct quote from the webpage:
"Please select up to thirty universities from our international list that you
"regard as" producing the
best research in the XXX subject area"
And I don;t see how faculty:student ratio (20% of the ranking) can denote quality. Simply having more lecturers does not make a university good (quantity ≠quality) An addition 10% is made up of international faculty and students. If they all come from, say Africa, then it will also be included in the ranking and no way does this reflects how "internationally" attractive it is.
You talk about graduate attributes which can no way be reflected from these rankings. Research/nobel prize means innovation, and having Nobel prize winners and whatever award holders as your lecturers probably means having a higher chance that creative graduates would be produced.
Added on July 31, 2010, 5:56 pmQUOTE(zstan @ Jul 31 2010, 05:16 PM)
Added on July 31, 2010, 5:18 pmnot only times.
entryman has posted few other ranking bodies in his previous posts and monash outranks nottingham in general.
I didn;t catch this the first time. QS-Times and Arwu are the two most popular rankings that are mostly reffered to.
This post has been edited by exzau: Jul 31 2010, 05:56 PM