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post Mar 13 2010, 07:04 PM


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QUOTE(anubis3000 @ Mar 13 2010, 04:08 PM)
How to explain this auntie's chi gong ?
http://www.wretch.cc/video/a220329376&func...gle&vid=5131416
There's some who can stand on eggs without breaking them.
How do you explain that ?
There've been attempts to measure the chi using scientific devices which confirms energy being released from the body.
How are we going to dispute the evidence?
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well, there are some possible answers to the question at the comment section.
i can stand on ostrich egg without breaking them brows.gif
well if you want to post proof, post more reliable source.
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post Mar 18 2010, 11:07 PM

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the link got problem...


Added on March 18, 2010, 11:07 pmsomehow i still believe in chi...

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post Mar 19 2010, 12:41 AM


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I've seen a person who break "batang pisang" with just a punch.. And its the real "batang pisang" of course.. Try la tumbuk batang pisang with your bare knuckles.. you'll know if your punch is strong enuff.. These true martial artists can be really scary sometime.. They seem to have some kind of "internal energy" which is invisible to us..

But I also seen in front of my eyes, a Taekwondo instructor with black belt got beaten badly by a bunch of teenagers.. I actually know that guy.. Yes, it wasn't a fair fight, but it reminds me that no matter how strong you are, if you are against a number of people, you better back off.. That Taekwondo instructor was rude that time, dia ingat dia kuat, that's why he kena belasah..
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QUOTE(frankzane @ Feb 26 2010, 12:36 AM)
Hi forumers,

I hope the question fits here.

Most of you might be aware that many martial arts have somehow involve breaking very hard materials like wood board, brick, slab, ice block, marble, etc...to test the practitoners limit.

And I also believe the martial artist able to do so due to hard training over the years (plus 'chi' inside their body).

Martial artists are also human, I just always get amazed by how the body structure can withstand such a blow?

Any explaination behind?
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I watch something in discoery where human brain would force body to perform super human act... and martial artist just mastered this and could force their brain to trigger their body to perdorm on their will
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QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Mar 19 2010, 12:41 AM)
I've seen a person who break "batang pisang" with just a punch.. And its the real "batang pisang" of course.. Try la tumbuk batang pisang with your bare knuckles.. you'll know if your punch is strong enuff.. These true martial artists can be really scary sometime.. They seem to have some kind of "internal energy" which is invisible to us..

But I also seen in front of my eyes, a Taekwondo instructor with black belt got beaten badly by a bunch of teenagers.. I actually know that guy.. Yes, it wasn't a fair fight, but it reminds me that no matter how strong you are, if you are against a number of people, you better back off.. That Taekwondo instructor was rude that time, dia ingat dia kuat, that's why he kena belasah..
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oh, yes i totally agree with you. no matter how strong you are, you may be easily 'tame' by a number of untrained people.

muay thai train with batang pisang, yeah tat's something i had missed out....how they do it huh? din they feel pain at all?
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Mar 24 2010, 01:20 PM)
I watch something in discoery where human brain would force body to perform super human act... and martial artist just mastered this and could force their brain to trigger their body to perdorm on their will
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Epinephrine can trigger that sort of miracle. Triggered in real danger you get superhuman strenght and stamina . Another thing is epinephrine shots are taken as a last resort to revive someone from the dead.

Its impossible to master this unless he takes everything as a threat or is in medication.
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post Mar 29 2010, 10:48 PM

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i believe it's the chi. can see videos by this guy, alot of them amazingly works on me.


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QUOTE(cottonkandy @ Mar 29 2010, 10:48 PM)
i believe it's the chi. can see videos by this guy, alot of them amazingly works on me.

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Lol chi is pure bs,



This old guy supposedly can throw people around with his fingertips, dont know why many people believe in this stuff, one things for sure a lot of people are making money out of it.

There was a case however failed to be mythbusted by the myth buster team, the guy who made heat out of the towel and foils.

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post Apr 4 2010, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(cottonkandy @ Mar 29 2010, 10:48 PM)
i believe it's the chi. can see videos by this guy, alot of them amazingly works on me.

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As in how it works on you?


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QUOTE(ate @ Mar 30 2010, 08:26 AM)
Lol chi is pure bs,



This old guy supposedly can throw people around with his fingertips, dont know why many people believe in this stuff, one things for sure a lot of people are making money out of it.

There was a case however failed to be mythbusted by the myth buster team, the guy who made heat out of the towel and foils.
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Huh? Why suddenly he can be defeated so easily?

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Mar 26 2010, 10:15 PM)
oh, yes i totally agree with you. no matter how strong you are, you may be easily 'tame' by a number of untrained people.

muay thai train with batang pisang, yeah tat's something i had missed out....how they do it huh? din they feel pain at all?
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well, for starters, they do feel pain.

one of my close friend attend the Muay Thai training. for the first week he had to train his fist by pumping on the ground/gravel/whatsoeversurfaceidunno until his knuckle bleed. after some time, he said his knuckle can withstand pain already.

there's a story from his Muay Thai teacher that one of his students are too obsessed with training and fighting that the teacher couldn't put him into competition, scaring that he might kill his opponents accidentally sweat.gif this is somewhat true because one of my friend's training senior saw that student fall into a small drain and his leg, when in contact with the edge of the drain, the edge breaks and he felt no pain at all and said "oops, i broke the drain~" sweat.gif

bones can be really strong if u train them hard over the years sweat.gif

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Apr 5 2010, 01:19 AM)
well, for starters, they do feel pain.

one of my close friend attend the Muay Thai training. for the first week he had to train his fist by pumping on the ground/gravel/whatsoeversurfaceidunno until his knuckle bleed. after some time, he said his knuckle can withstand pain already.

there's a story from his Muay Thai teacher that one of his students are too obsessed with training and fighting that the teacher couldn't put him into competition, scaring that he might kill his opponents accidentally sweat.gif this is somewhat true because one of my friend's training senior saw that student fall into a small drain and his leg, when in contact with the edge of the drain, the edge breaks and he felt no pain at all and said "oops, i broke the drain~" sweat.gif

bones can be really strong if u train them hard over the years sweat.gif
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Although i believe that martial arts "Techniques" can be used to break many strong things and make our bones hard.. .But i dont think that the drain is in 100% condition.. maybe there are already some crack... So when he fell into it... it eventually breaks..
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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Apr 5 2010, 01:19 AM)
well, for starters, they do feel pain.

one of my close friend attend the Muay Thai training. for the first week he had to train his fist by pumping on the ground/gravel/whatsoeversurfaceidunno until his knuckle bleed. after some time, he said his knuckle can withstand pain already.

there's a story from his Muay Thai teacher that one of his students are too obsessed with training and fighting that the teacher couldn't put him into competition, scaring that he might kill his opponents accidentally sweat.gif this is somewhat true because one of my friend's training senior saw that student fall into a small drain and his leg, when in contact with the edge of the drain, the edge breaks and he felt no pain at all and said "oops, i broke the drain~" sweat.gif

bones can be really strong if u train them hard over the years sweat.gif
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ooo...tat's impressive!
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next time you see someone demo board breaking with wood, try turn the board 90 degree and remove the gap between the board, see how well he do.
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QUOTE(lin00b @ Mar 12 2010, 01:26 PM)
all it takes is 1 master volunteering to donate his time for a series of tests... so far non has step forward
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The great Bruce did this. He allowed everyone to question and study his 1-inch punch technique.

As to other master volunteering their time, I think it is obvious. As a master I dont have to prove anything to skeptics. Being their guenie pig can be humiliating. It is best to focus on thier students.
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loh..
u all normal mortal dun suka2 say those martial art just tipu2 only, use custom 'modified-to-be -weaker' stuff..

i've live in the era ( hostel in those 90an )that some martial arts fanatics live..
even one of my school mate kinda strong oso..
he can break very hard 2" timber wood with his " betis " without problem.
and many more of our hostel mate so crazy bout this superior strength...

MORAL OF THE STORY..
NEVER SAY SOMETHING THAT WIL BREAK THEIR HEART.. COZ THEY CAN BREAK URS IN A BLINK OF EYES..


Added on June 28, 2010, 9:36 am
QUOTE(frankzane @ Apr 6 2010, 10:43 PM)
ooo...tat's impressive!
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Never see before, do u...?

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post Feb 7 2012, 10:32 PM

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yeah, i do believe in human power!
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Except for lin00b's reply, there's not enough emphasis on materials science in this thread.

The harder a material is, the more brittle it is. Once a brittle material has a slight defect, the crack propagates itself. Sure, they still need that certain amount of force to make that crack, but after that it's smooth sailin. What they say, 'a chink in the armour'

For all we know some quacks may have actually make that small notch in the block of materials....

The materials listed that do sound impressive (marble) are classified as brittle, try breaking a piece of ductile metal
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QUOTE(chiiupe @ Feb 10 2012, 09:51 PM)
Except for lin00b's reply, there's not enough emphasis on materials science in this thread.

The harder a material is, the more brittle it is. Once a brittle material has a slight defect, the crack propagates itself. Sure, they still need that certain amount of force to make that crack, but after that it's smooth sailin. What they say, 'a chink in the armour'

For all we know some quacks may have actually make that small notch in the block of materials....

The materials listed that do sound impressive (marble) are classified as brittle, try breaking a piece of ductile metal
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still dun understand, even if the materials are brittle, wouldnt the hands/legs feel pain?
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QUOTE(lin00b @ Mar 12 2010, 01:26 PM)
all it takes is 1 master volunteering to donate his time for a series of tests... so far non has step forward
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Actually this guy did.


and failed miserably at that. It's a fraud. doh.gif

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